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Date Posted: 21:54:42 08/25/03 Mon
Author: Kashmanik
Subject: And yet more ramblings. :-)
In reply to: Kashmanik 's message, "A few thoughts....." on 16:02:19 08/25/03 Mon

OK, I'm just writing things as they come to me, so if this makes no sense... well, boohoo. :-)

Ships: As I said before, and have given it more thought now, Anya and Xander's relationship has to go to a new level. Even if they get back together full time, and even if they get married they still wouldn't really be progressing much beyond what we saw in early to mid S6. I would push for the idea of Anya and Xander having a child. As well as allowing us a nice, non-lethal way to write out Anya (which I believe is a necessity in order to introduce new characters) it would provide a great dilemma for Xander. He'd finally have to make the big decision in his life between Buffy and Anya. Staying to fight, or leaving to raise his child with Anya.

And yes, as before, I still think Spike needs to go. As well as making our fic more "real", I don't see (personally) where else we can take his character. Thats another reason that I feel a Buffy/Faith/Spike triangle won't work, because in my eyes its a step backwards for his character (and Buffy). They had very little shippiness really in S8. Sure, they had their moments, but a lot of ex's do. To put them together again in either a subtle or overt romantic situation seems to be going in the wrong direction.

And let me explain why I think Spike needs to go. Basically, the core four cant really leave. Buffy, Giles, Willow and Xander are the mainstays of the show, in my view. We need them as far as the fic goes. Andrew and Kennedy are also exempt from nominations this week on Big Brother... sorry, off track there. But yeah, theres still a lot we can learn about Andrew, and a *hell* of a lot about Kennedy (since I think if we all admit it, she got very little development in S8.) People say its because they dont like the character, but we can make her an interesting character, and desirable to have around (whether its in a good or bad way.) Faith is only recently back on the show, but unless we do something with her, she's kinda redundant. Needs to be more integrated plotwise this year. And Dawn... well, I think Dawn could possibly leave the fic too. Her massive rise to power this season could be an interesting story to round off some point in S9, or else we've got another uber-witch in the fic. Which, as with Faith, makes her useless to have around if she's just Witch-Fu girl.

Anyway, there's my nominations. Anya and Spike to leave the fic, and possibly Dawn also. We could even ratchet up the stress on the readers by having them all taken out by one enemy, in one episode. Because *no* BB has ever done that much damage to the Scoobs in one attack. (Although I REALLY want happy pregnant Anya! And also terrified-of-going-into-labour Anya.) :-)

The seasons structure now. As opposed to my three-parter thing before, I think a four-parter season could work well. With each part focussing on two characters primarily. (i.e. Part 1 - Giles and Anya. Part 2 - Kennedy and Spike. Part 3 - Buffy and Andrew. Part 4 - Xander and Faith.) Just an example, but you see what I mean. Wouldn't cover everyone, but those characters with less development (Andrew, Kennedy, Faith, and also Buffy who was strangely neglected in S8!)

Which brings me to another point. Buffy. She's the title character, but most of the major events in the season (with the exception of the final few eps) seemed quite detached from her. She really has to be the main focus again next season, and we have to do something big with her IMO. Not sure what, but she needs more development!

Thats basically the reason I'm pushing for the 4-part structure. We got very bogged down with plotting a full season story with S8, and I think a 4-part structure could work well for developing characters. Everyone would get their time in the spotlight (as long as we dont forget Buffy again.) :-)

I've really rambled now, but I'll say it again, I'll probably be back with more aimless yammering later!

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[> [> Idea off of yours -- That one Guy, 00:46:28 08/26/03 Tue

Maybe have Spike and Faith go guard cleavelands hell mouth maybe that way (we still have them if we need.. dawn can go with them and train to be a watcher ) that way we have room for them later, maybe they could call the gang for help or something...

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[> [> [> Re:Idea -- Idea Guy, 00:56:58 08/26/03 Tue

I like your idea but it should be after a "Buffy, where are we going? Where do i stand with you and what do i have to stay for?" from Spike...he and Faith really suit friends but not a couple. You can sort of have the triangle that way and have episode 9-12 be when you drop people if Anya is pregnant then you could have her find out in episode 10 and in episode 11 she's like "no more moving"

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