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Date Posted: 23:11:19 08/28/03 Thu
Author: Idea Guy
Subject: Good
In reply to:
Wyvern
's message, "My main reservation..." on 22:10:53 08/28/03 Thu
I do think somebody should leave though. Just because it's who everyone is used to it doesn't mean they need to be around.
Spike's got nothing left of his own to tell and Faith, like I said, isn't a group girl.
Nobody out of the core four has lasted (other than Spike) more than three seasons as a regular. I think new characters would be good or Dawn going to school elsewhere (I'd imagine Sunnydale high is gone?)
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Hmm, two birds with one stone perhaps? -- Kashmanik, 23:16:37 08/28/03 Thu
They could decide around mid-season that Dawn should go back to school, whilst the gang are needed elsewhere. So pregnant Anya and Dawn go and settle down somewhere, whilst the rest carry on.
We could even do a one-off episode that is just Dawn and Anya in a new town dealing with some demonic plans. :-)
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See - Everyone wins. -- Idea Guy, 23:19:49 08/28/03 Thu
If you do it at the right time then there could be enough going on not to majorly notice it. If you just scaled down the appearance then if you season 10 make the cast list be minus them (If you do do a season 10 I really think Spike's story is over by then)
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Well, I did suggest... -- Wyvern, 23:49:14 08/28/03 Thu
...writing out Kennedy. She just doesn't fit right. All the other potentials are gone and despite everything we've done she's always going to be first and foremost Willow's (possibly ex-)girlfriend. And she's not actually very interesting. If it wasn't for his continuing popularity, I'd get rid of Andrew as well and go back to centering on the core scoobies for a while.
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good point. -- Idea guy, 23:53:26 08/28/03 Thu
One thing I think was wrong is that it took Mutant Enemy three seasons to credit Tara as a regular yet season eight has allowed it after thirteen episodes. I think a list of seven regulars (Buffy, Xander, Anya, Dawn, Andrew, Spike and Willow) would work fine keeping Kennedy and Faith recurring (Kennedy in seventeen, Faith in maybe fourteen) and having Giles (as, realistically he was demoted to recurring) as recurring especially if the wheelchair thing takes off.
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I actually like that balance of characters a lot better -- Wyvern, 00:02:40 08/29/03 Fri
Just so long as we make the most of Giles wherever we use him, rather than his just happening to be there but not being properly used (if you know what I mean).
The one idea I really dislike is that we might use an Anya pregnancy as an excuse to downplay her role, and effectively Xander's as well (cos I don't see us being able to send her away in that condition without him following cos I'm certainly not in favour of her pregnancy splitting them up again! And not that I'm suggesting it out of any sense of moral outrage, I'd really like them to get married before we do that storyline anyway - cos I want them to have happy things to do!!!)
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But don't you think..... -- Kashmanik, 00:02:20 08/29/03 Fri
...that Kennedy's non-interestingness (it's a word....!) can be rectified? That's the point I was going for when I suggested a little more focus on her. We could, if we really worked at it, create an interesting character out of her, by allowing some backstory and character development.
I'd be more tempted to remove some of the older regulars rather than remove Kennedy or Andrew. JMO.
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We tried it. -- Wyvern, 00:06:46 08/29/03 Fri
The problem is, I'm not sure that the writers really enjoy writing her, though most of us have probably warmed to her a little more through writing her. I know I find her difficult to write, though. And I just don't see the point in developing a character the audience consistently refuses to invest in.
Shed older regulars if you like, but not core scoobies and not people in key relationships to core scoobies. Faith and Spike are IMO the best candidates.
My feeling is that this season we should concentrate on the core scooby dynamic and scale down the characters on the periphery.
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