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Abel
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Date Posted: 00:24:16 11/12/04 Fri
In reply to:
silverfox
's message, "Re: it's all made up" on 22:51:17 11/09/04 Tue
Trust me eh, I see the beauty of the human imagination and how people's belief systems can be very wonderfully beautifly intensified by their culture and how their point of view might express an angle to the visage of a law that I might not have had seen. So trust me when I say that I do know where they are coming from, I do not by no means accept anything in "blind faith". For everything there is a reason and what I believe is only because God has given me understanding to His Reason not man's. "Generally a western man can't be contempt an a empty room a eastern man can." No offense eh, but aren't you here with me in America? Or the western side of the world? So by your statement you place yourself in my position. By the way I am sitting here in my room and I see the angels around me I feel His anointing flowing in me and I see His Glory as a cloud of smoke vovering all about me and in the room, so trust me when I say that I can sit in a padded white looney bin and still be entertained by the Knowledge of the Sovereign Lord, Jesus Christ. I sleep on the floor, I don't care for my situation so believe me that I can blow off any distraction. "Karma is the same idea is that you reap what you sow but i don't think it is a rip off of it". Is it just me or does that statement contradict itself? Karma is a man-made belief or at the most a "god" made belief or to some "some force that's out there made it up". However the Truth is that God is the Alpha and the Omega, He said "let there be light(hebrew for 'order')" before He created the Sun. Jesus, the Lord of Creation, set all spiritual and physical laws in motion. We do not "create" laws we simply discover them because God is the creator. "I am not sure if it predates judaism but buddhism predates chirstanity". Well, We are sure that "christianity" is merely a label and that Jesus Christ reigned before any religion was thought up in man's imagination. Judaism predates buddhism anyway, not that it matters. If you are to say that "Buddha was very wise so was ghandi i don't think they ripped off anything they were smart enough to come to their own path"...
1)a statement such as "Idon't think" shows your uncertainty and clear representation of a personal opinion not backed with fact or Truth.
2)if they were smart enough to come up with their own path, would that mean that they acknowledge their knowledge as their own? Therefore, ripping off God's Laws.
3)Or were buddha and ghandi misguided fools who out of their own imaginations compounded different religions to suit their vices?
"If everything needed for everyone was in the bible there wouldn't be different religions"
I never said if (which shows uncertainty again), I do acknowledge however that everything everyone needs is in the Bible. Different religions are products of wicked men and women who wish to control someone. Let's take christian identity, for example, they believe that God created "Each to it's own kind" of course we know that God is referring to different species such as birds and humans and plants. However they take this verse to "prove" to the people that blacks and non-whites are mudpeople/subhumans that must not partake in God's "true chosen race" the whites. People attempt to interpret the Bible to suit their means of evil. Therefore all religion is greed. to answer your question directly, people create their own religion to suit their greed, I mean "need". However Jesus died on the Cross to suit my need, I didn't say that He did. So settle that one with Him. I'm just telling you what happened to me or us. "I think christians personally could learn from the buddha concept of non attachment." Well i'm starting to understand a little more of what you "think" but your not telling anyone what you know. However, I know that Ghandi once said that he desired to meet a True Christian because he realized there was Truth in the Gospel. Also, I know that Buddha would have saved himself a whole lot of trouble if he would have understood what "being dead to the world and alive in Christ" meant. So again, buddha's teaching of non attachment is a rip off of what the Bible teaches us about being in the world yet not partaking therein. "Most christians are so attached to the bible that they don't want to challenge and like u refuse to see the beauty in any other religions". Like I said, I challenge every religion and belief system I run into and have run into with the Living Word of God. I fear no created thing. I have not spoken anything less than bold to you so far, so show me what right you have to say that. By the way, when Jesus said He would leave He said He would send the Counselor, The Spirit of Truth, who would guide us into all wisdom and truth. So I have no fear no concern no doubt that any religion would not cause my Faith to waver because my trust is in the Lord and His Spirit who is wiser than any created being or thing. Once again, who can seek the LORD?? Who can command Him to descend from His Throne?? But the Lord alone chooses whom He will reveal Himself to and has assigned His Children as embassadors. Like I said, I had sought all those religions and none ever made me wholewithout a price to pay and still left me empty, until God led me to Christ who paid the price and filled my life to overflowing. So believe me when I say that I sought beauty but all I saw was evil. I had never felt so betrayed!! But God has healed me found me He SOUGHT ME! For this, I love Him, who is seated above and came down to us mere humans. Beauty??? Who can speak of His Beauty of His marvelous works, look around man, don't you see His creation and that's only the physical there are things that dreams and visions could not reveal, but His Spirit. You don't know beauty, beauty is Christ. "It like become the total jusitfication for their belief system and thus most feel that if the bible says it then it must be true." I feel you on this one, i've ran into those who do not know how to make the Bible practical thru revelation of the Spirit, so i see how might assume that "christians" are ignorant for trusting in a "book". However, God is the God of confirmations. God reveals His Truth is all things though, in the Bible in the Spirit as I watch a movie as i'm at a bar playing a show as i'm at the park kickin' it with my crew as i'm at a restaurant eating my food as I converse with a stranger, God confirms His Truth, He delights in our understanding. God says that His people perish for lack of knowledge of the law(the Bible). He delights in us living the Abundant Life in all wisdom and Truth. For example, a lady called me over the other day and asked me to pray for her husband with bad respitory conditions and a cold so as I commanded the sickness to leave him, there came a revelation of how it is a law that Christ took his sickness on the Cross therefore the man MUST be healed. So in that the man was healed. I had fun getting a deeper understanding, the man was healed, and we were all happy. So i'm sorry that some "christians" haven't understood what it means to be a SON of God yet, however don't you feel that it is strange to judge them for limiting God in their daily life when you are yet to acknowledge that His Son died for you so that you may enjoy the Abundant Life and be free of the Destroyers wiles? So i'm sorry that so many people have found Truth in the Word of God and won't seperate from it to be "politically correct" or so that people might not offend them with statements such as "I really pity you are blind to the beauty that are in other religions". Heh heh.
"If eastern religions did rip off western religions i'd have to say they did a really good job because they memebers of their religion are generally able to obtain a state of spirituality most westerners are blind to."
You know with all you eastern/western talk it's almost as though all you have is textbook knowledge. By the way you probably shouldn't be talking on westernized subjects. if you want to get down to it, the gospel in its time was middle eastern then traveled to eastern then went world wide. So I miss your point on that. However, your eastern religions are being sold at coffee shops under names like buddha yoga and how to use it to burn off fat. Whatever one might hear of eastern religions here in America are washed down, polically correct, socially acceptable, adaptable, twist to suit, religions that the whole family can enjoy. For example, the muslims teach to kill all infidels. However, in america that is left on the plane because we don't want a violent religion "let's just take what suits us". Obtain a higher state???? I'm seated at the right hand side of God's Throne right now, you can't get much higher! If you wish to challenge me on that one then you wish to desire the One who had mercy on me to allow me to sit there. Am I boasting? yes, on Christ's mercy. Consider that the spiritual levels of most eastern religions limit you to 7 maybe 10 heights. As oppossed to the MOST HIGH who can take you wherever you please. might i mention that the other day as a friend of mine attempted to step into the levels of consciousness for his religion we rebuked the "spirits" that were "lending" him that power and he couldn't do anything!!! By the way, we rebuked the demons not "spirits" so that told us a little something about what's behind what.
For the rest I leave you with this...
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16 But I suggest you read straight thru verse 21.
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