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Date Posted: 17:17:08 04/22/03 Tue
Author: KSMoTO
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 62.139.24.103
Subject: Re: you're supporting their oppresors..thats what i mean...
In reply to: «șTone Caponeș» 's message, "Re: you're supporting their oppresors..thats what i mean..." on 10:05:06 04/22/03 Tue

>Last I heard, the U.S. wanted a seperate Palestinian
>state and Isreal thought our idea was way to nice for
>the Palestinians.

well..they sure have a funny way of showing that...

>However, instead of stopping the suicide bombings and
>maybe giving a year or two to be peaceful so that
>something can get worked out, they want to blow up
>buses with kids on them.

they don'tbelieve peace is an option..thats what you have to understand...and to an extent they're right...without war you'd get waaay less than your rights by peace alone..in this jungle of a world we live in...
ex. Egypt got back Sinaai by peace but that was only after we crushed the Israeli forces there...we tried peace before that but it never seemed to have any effect...
you don't honestly believe Israel is going to hand the Palestinians a chunk of land becuase they have been "good boys"..even if they do that for a 100 years...if you do you must be really Naiive(sp?)

>It is hard to work out problems when one or both
>parties are still taking sucker punches.

both is the more appropriate analogy...

>I'm not an expert on the Palestinian peace process,
>but I've been to the middle east, and the level of
>ignorance over there is amazing. Many of them seem to
>hate the U.S. just because they are told too, while at
>the same time trying to emulate us in a variety of
>ways.

i'm not going to refuse the fact that there are people pushing people to hate the US....but a whole lot of people just hate you guys because of your actions..i think your actions are way more effective in that part than any influence by whomever you mean..

>Honestly KSM, from my experience with Islam (I mean
>experience here, not what I read about in Newsweek),
>your religion teaches intolerance of all other
>religions.

thats not true...as i said a thousand times...if a couple of muslims are like that..that shouldn't make you think that's what the religion teaches...it's those Muslims who get the religion wrong...either out of ignorance or for some other purpose..(such as terrorists saying what they're doing is Jihad)...

>I can understand not believing what
>another religion or denomination practices, but when
>the Jehova's Witnesses show up at my door, I don't
>blast them off the porch with a shotgun.

umm...and we do??
if you could contact any christian person or authority in Egypt as an example...please ask them if they feel they are being intolerated by Muslims or not...the answer i expect is HELL NO!! (even though it could be a preist or something =P)

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