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Date Posted: 07:41:12 04/13/03 Sun
Author: Grim
Author Host/IP: sdcax60-144.dialup.optusnet.com.au / 198.142.225.144
Subject: his reply to my e-mail
In reply to: Grim 's message, "ARCHIVE THIS!!" on 07:38:41 04/13/03 Sun

Dammitboy, i want some helpful pointers as to how to improve my argument in support of America hehe.


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>no, not really, he hasnt done anything for ten years or so. hes been lying low, not being a threat to any other country. hes too fucking old. why start a war now, as soon as bush gets into presidency? answer me that.
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>dont you find it awfully convenient that as soon as lil bush became prseident, keeping in mind that it was senior bush putting americans at war with iraq some ten years ago, a war starts, and to start that war UN legislations were broken? wake up.
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You wake up. It is irrelevant who starts the war. It has to happen and it has happened. You protesters arent going to stop it. We aren't listening to you now and the majority will continue to ignore you.


> This cannot continue. agreed, but why is that america has to but in and stop it, without consent from many countries, and millions of individuals, or civillians if you will, within those countries?
>

Well i along with others feel the other countries opinions to be irrelevant and many of them have human right violations happening within their own country. Anyone who dosen't support the sending of troops to Iraq is clearly in favour of keeping a murderous tyrant in power and to continue letting him torture and execute his people.

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>if they havent found anything yet, some 3 or 4 days after they have officially stated they have control of bahgdad, i dont think they will. not that i dont want them to find anything, i mean you have to have a reason for killing all those iraqies right?? otherwise thats just murder.
>

Whats murder is what Saddam has done to his people for the past 10 years and by ignoring weapons inspectors he has forced sanctions upon his own people. This is far worse.

>you and all the other rednecks in this country! why?? anyone knows they can win a war against france. their pussies. what does that acheive? wow we have killed millions of people to get a ........tower?
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Im not a redneck. Born and bred in the city. The French do not have a right to an opinion and neither do the German. Ofcourse anyone can win a war with France. Thats exactly more the reason for them to butt the fuck out. No and its a joke joyce. If you couldn't figure that anyway you shouldn't be reading my e-mails.


>bush does the same thing to americans just not in such a direct way. insteading of funding a war which im sure would easily be a multi-billion dollar event those funds could have been used to give to many many different causes such as for homeless, those who live in poverty (which is a major problem in america) etc.
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What America does with its money is its business. America spends more on its military per annum than the entire world combined, this is a known fact. If it is rich enough to do this then good, more power to them.

>not to mention the fact that america has recently started to "recommened" that muslims register to vote (which can be compared to what hitler did to the jews, on a smaller scale tho) by way of television commercials and the general media and how many muslims are finding it hard to enter or leave the country having trouble with their passports and visas. and also how america has been suggesting to other countries to deport any iraqi officials.
>

Dammit boy get your dictionary and compare the word "recommend" to the word "force". Hitler put jews in ovens and broke their bones repeadetly and many other torturous things. Please show me your evidence of Bush doing these things to Muslims as you claim. Oh on a smaller scale though. Thats exactly that on a much fucking smaller scale. Of course Muslims are finding it hard to enter and leave the country. If they werent i would think my government was doing a bad job of border patrol. I would rather it take a few extra days to process a muslims visa than have 500 of my own people killed cause they let the wrong fucking person in the country. All Iraqi officials should be deported because their is a war going on that involves our country. That is reason enough to deport them end of story.

>fuck off, they are both pshycopaths. bush couldnt even get through his schools with out daddy giving him a helping hand. that tells me daddy is crazy, and its apparent its genetic! bush raped every civillian living in america,

Bush raped every civillian in America. hahahaha now your beginning to sound like the psychopath.

>pro bush or not when he cheated his way into presidency. if you beleive he honestly one all those votes fair and square then you have alot of research to do.

Ive said before and i'll say it again, im not interested in how he made his way into Presidency, clean your ears.

>i know im lucky to live in this country, thats why i do, i live with an indonesian who tells me about his country how corrupt the police are how he had to run through roits everyday after school to get home. it makes me realise how lucky we are. we just live in a country where corruption isnt as commonly used and as obvious, yet.
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>if we had conscription and you refuse you are heavily prosecuted, which often is large enough to have repercusions to be equal as death, i.e. prison. how is that being free?
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Good. James in all honesty if it was brought to an out and out world war and fighting was mandatory and someone refused then drastic measures must be enforced.

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>this country isnt as free as you state it is. your opinion seems to be very media orientated. i suggest you find a different source of news. i.e. not bias.
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No, i think i'll stick with my current views and with the rest of my country.

>your arguement is getting pathetically weak. i put forward a serious question and you cant even answer it. pfft.
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>american politics is whats controlling this. again do your research.
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Your rhetorts are more pissweak that my arguments thats for sure. American politics and how Bush got in to power might piss you off but im not interested in it. American politics is controlling it along with Britain and Australia. Im not interested in how Bush got into power.

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> >i seriously recommend you read a book called 'stupid white men' by michael
> >moore. it is quite insightful to how bush became prsident.
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>No i dont care, im Australian , not American.
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>well you sound exactly like one with th ignorant and arrogant views. if i was just reading what you have said on a post i would think you are an american.
>

You would think that because you are ignorant. Not everyone who supports America is American and it may actually surprise you but there are alot of us out there who support America 100%. That fact that you hate Americans proves your ignorance and arrogance.

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>again your reply is becomming very weak and lame. and again, i recommend you read that book. its beneficial for YOU.
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No. I refuse to read a book that bigots my own race. People in poor parts of the globe or people who lack self image have to dream up these fantastic stories on American conspiracies and quite frankly it bores me.

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>again, from speaking with my indonesian roomate, many indonesian beleive that it was america who did the bombings to bali to stop their tourism indusrty from being so strong (as it is the major source of income for bali) and thus the multinational companies can move in and set up shop.
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Hahaha, that is the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard. Especially when they have caught the people who did it. They have witnesses, confessions, evidence, DNA the works. Please, i dare you to tell these theories of yours to the victims of the Bali bombings or better still do you think that september 11 was done by Bush too??? Why not go to New York and tell people on Wall Street that and see if they would be interested. You say my arguments are getting pathetic. Yours can be compared to Mohammad El Saaef from Iraq.

>iraq doesnt have the ability to take over any other country larger than itself. iraq is not, and never will be a threat to australia. america on the other hand, well that is scary.
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Good. They definately wont by the time we have finished with them either.

>no, sorry i either didnt have the time to answer your question or simply didnt see it, i cant remember.
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>i agree with you. i never said i didnt. THEN they had a reason to intervene, but NOW the is no reason. yay lets hear it for global control!!!!
>

YAY FOR GLOBAL CONTROL!!!!!!!!! YAY FOR AMERICA!!!!!!!! YAY FOR CAPITALISATION!!!!!!! YAY FOR IRAQ GETTING THEIR ASSESS KICKED!!!

I wonder who we should liberate next,

Germany,
France,
Zimbabwe,
Syria,
Canada,
Saudi Arabia

hmmmmmm hehe.

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>no, no we dont. terrorism is only being provoked by all the fuss governments are going to. and that what they so called "terrorists" want.
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>hahahaha. you think you can erraticate terrorism!!! in one year!! hah. ive never seen/heard anything more funny in my life! terrorism will always be around, on many different scales.
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No Terrorism is provoked when hippies like you take to the streets with your no bush banners. It makes them happy and they get off on it. They attack and then combine the attack with support for their cause and blame the same governments you protest against. I never stated Terrorism can be eradicated in one year. But they need to get the big players out now while they can. People must realise that if their countries harbour terrorists then they better stand up and launch a rebellion themselves or be "liberated" by good old uncle same.
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>
> > not to mention another fact that johnny wants aust to be america as this
> >starts with the gst as the tax system now, that includes the internal
> >processes, is exactly, thats, exactly the same as the u.s.'s. coincidence?
> >i think not.
>
>*Yawn*...... . its too late. youve been americanised. hehe
>

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>in good reason yes. in this instance there is no good reason.
>
>

So you are saying Saddam murdering thousands of people is not a good enough reason to invade? Cant you answer a question or cant you read?


yelling your lame slogan you stated below.
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>You dont see the point James. Thousands (maybe millions) of Iraqi citizens
>have been murdered at the hands of Saddams regime. If this is ended today at
>the cost of 4,000 or so lives and saves 20 times that number in the future
>then it has been a just war and a war worth fighting.
>
>wow. i must now be spekaing with george w himself. is this what you used in your election speeches mr bush?
>
>

I must be speaking with Hitler himself. Seig Heil Hitler , Seig Heil.


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>the word terrorism has been heavily abused in this case. they should lock up lunatics like you for having such faith in bush, the most corrupt president in the u.s. ever. i think you will find that this is a case for the military police which usually consists of a large fine. imprisonment would not normally be applied in this instance but hey, we are at war, why not!!! fuck it!
>

No. The thousands of lives lost in terrorism in the past few years has been heavily looked over in this case. They should lock up lunatics like you who protest against governments like Britain, America and Australia.


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>im sure ther could have been another arrangement, one where ALL members of the UN can agree with. if it was really about saddam as is the US wouldnt have had him killed already. it doest take 100000 people to kil one man. one old man.
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hahahahahaha, this is the best one so far. The UN could agree with Saddam???????????????????? hahaha I'm posting this on a site for the most bigoted narrow minded anti american piece of dribble that has ever been typed on a keyboard.

>your views are narrow.
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>GOD BLESS THE DEATH OF AMERICA!!!
>

Please go join Osama Bin Ladens Al Queda network preferabbly near tora bora where there are alot of U.S soldiers.

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