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Date Posted: 07:38:41 04/13/03 Sun
Author: Grim
Author Host/IP: sdcax60-144.dialup.optusnet.com.au / 198.142.225.144
Subject: ARCHIVE THIS!!

My argument with an ex-employee from my work about his bigotted anti American views.

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>dude, im just stirring debby.

I know, everyone does.

>i want to know why you think it is ok for bush to start a war to "find" weapons that they and russia (i think) sold to them.

You think? Why are you commenting on something you 'think' and not know. They have provided military arms to countries in the pass yes, but these arms have never included nuclear or biological weaponry. Cmon James, Saddam has been dodging the weapons inspectors for decades. This cannot continue. If he has weapons of mass destruction then this is the evidence the western world has been waiting to see. If not it is worse, because he has never allowed the UN inspectors to see what they want for decades and sanctions have been imposed on his people. What kind of barbaric madman sits back and does not allow the UN not to inspect parts of his country when they have imposed sanctions of his own people.

> it pointless, its like you going to mcdonalds and trashing everything because you know that there is french fries on the premises.

Not really, besides French fries are being changed in France and i am going to write to the Australian government pushing for a war against France for their refusal to send military support to Iraq since the Allied troops helped defend their country against Nazi Germany in world war II.

>sure saddam is fucked, im not saying he isnt, but what gives bush the right to break international un laws so he can invade a country that conveniently controls 60%of the worlds oil supply because he "thinks" there is weapons of mass destruction.

Easy. Saddam has murdered thousands of women and children CIVILLIANS. He is on the same level as Hitler, Stalin, Mugawabe and any other murderous regime. Box's containing the remains of men, women and children have been found in sadams military outlets in Iraq and the forensic teams have proven that around 80% are Iraqian and 20% Irans. There has been many reports of torture amongst civilians who refuse to join the military and they are living in a country where if anyone disagrees with the regime they will be murdered and families tortured.

>quote ' do not burn your oil supply' - george w bush durinng the early stages of invasion. bush has a fuckin billion times more weapons of MD than saddam, and they are both as crazy as each other.

Please get your facts correct. The one thing i cannot stand is people who claim they are both as crazy as each other. You ought to look up the dictionary definition of a Psychopath and ask yourself "Does Bush realy fit this definition?". It has been proven the pain and suffering Saddam has inflicted on his own people. Using chemical weapons on the kurds. When one Iraqi soldier refused to use chemical warfare on the Kurds he was executed. You are lucky that you live in a country like Australia, America and Britain where we have this freedom. Please tell me of an instance where Bush, Blair or Howard executed, raped, tortured or sacked a member of the military or society for that matter who did not want to fight to the death for their country?
The members of the military who did not want to be innoculted against Anthrax in Australia, Britain and America where sent home. In Iraq they would not be allowed this luxury.

>whos making sure bush isnt using them huh??? saddams country is deralict, he probably wouldnt be able to use them anyway. all the buttons would get jammed with dust! not to mention the FACT that bush shouldnt be in presidency anyway, its nothing to do with george, its old daddy bush controlling everything.

Yeah maybe, but i dont care. American politics is American politics and at the end of the day Iraq needs to be liberated and that is that.

>i seriously recommend you read a book called 'stupid white men' by michael moore. it is quite insightful to how bush became prsident.

No i dont care, im Australian , not American.

>oh australian troops- we, australia, being our own country, have nothing to do with this war. i think it first came about when little johnny was in america on the day of trade centre shananigans and was in conference with bush about trade i think, so johnny felt a little obligated to stand by america in "this time of terrorism" as little johnny, and as most people know, knew that america controlls and manipulates the world, so if johnny puts his hand up to help "in this time of terrorism" it is a safety net if it ever becomes a major threat to aust.

We have everything to do with this war. America and Britain are our allies wether you like it or not and i will support all three of them 100% no matter the outcome of the war. Yes, i highly doubt you would protest the world trade center disaster as like all the other ignorant protesters feel the Americans deserved it. Also open your eyes, Indonesia is the largest Islamic country and it is right next door to Australia. We have already had the Bali disaster and our country needs to stop trade with Indonesia and impose tourism restrictions to cause a downfall to their economy until they learn to control their own people and that they cannot commit these brutal acts of murder. From the sounds of things you seem to support Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden. Make no mistake Bush is the good guy and they are the bad guys.
I would rather America controls the world than Iraq. You would know it then James and you wouldn't be given the chance to protest.

> i think it comes down to bad timing, but in this day and age it is very stupid to go to war with the weapons and technology that are available. one push of a button and we are all gone. and guess which country has that toy??hmmmm?

So what you are saying is you would rather 'that toy' be in the other countries hands??? Great thinking James. In this day in age and since the atrocities of september 11 people are not willing to see that again and too many people are ready to defend their country against all odds. 69,000 people die in Iraq each year at the hands of Saddam Hussein, so this tiny amount of 4,000 is practically insignificant and if it takes this many to prevent millions dying in the future then it is a just war.
By the way you conveniently didn't answer my question the other day when i asked you if you think the U.S.A should not have intervened in world war II. Your thinking they should have just left Hitler alone and had no right to invade Germany to take him out???

> australia has enough problems internally, why waste millions on war, which creates pain, anger and makes dealings with other countries more unstable than it already is. i think we can both agree the money wasted on war can be better spent??!!!!!

No it cant. We need to go to war. Why wait until the next terrorist attack. Terrorism needs and will be eradicated this year. After Iraq the U.S.A will most likely liberate Syria (im hoping on France though).

> not to mention another fact that johnny wants aust to be america as this starts with the gst as the tax system now, that includes the internal processes, is exactly, thats, exactly the same as the u.s.'s. coincidence? i think not.

*Yawn*......

>according to me hitler should have been left alone?? when did i say that. dont put words in my mouth.

Then you support U.S.A invading another country to remove a murderous dictatorship??? which one is it?

>and no if the war is over, there is no war to protest about, so no i wont be out on the streets yelling your lame slogan you stated below.

You dont see the point James. Thousands (maybe millions) of Iraqi citizens have been murdered at the hands of Saddams regime. If this is ended today at the cost of 4,000 or so lives and saves 20 times that number in the future then it has been a just war and a war worth fighting.

>the activists put lives at risk?? whos? only their own. no one elses. its the cops own fault that he fell in the water. he should have been tied to something. correct procedure of police rescue would demand that safety of the officers involved is top priority.

No, they interfeered with an Australian military vessel and there have been talks of charging them with acts of terrorism. In my eyes they are either Terrorists or Traitors and neither should go unpunished. They need to be locked up for life.

>and the debby sex thing, i know how old she is, micko told me, and thats exactly why i said what i said. i never said she has never had sex i said she needs a good fuck.
>jg

Who cares, Deborah is in a world of her own anyway, back to the topic.


P.S

What is your opinion on WWII?

You protesters always say no war no war, but never provide an alternative solution to the Saddam Hussein issue.

GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

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