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Date Posted: 05:31:15 08/14/05 Sun
Author: keeping faith
Author Host/IP: 81.139.14.101
Subject: Re: Nothing confusing aboiut S7 Bad writing is just that
In reply to: Christian 's message, "Re-watching some episodes of season 7 and it still doesn't make sense." on 21:04:12 08/12/05 Fri

Bad writing!.
The first half consisted of trying to re-do old episodes from previous seasons (It backfired since those were good and simply showed these up) for lack of anything else to do while at the same time attempting and failing to try and make Dawn a viable candidate for a spin-off.
The second half consisted of protentious rubbish with losts of uninteresting potentials and boring uber Vamp villians.
Charachters did not devolpe or retrograded.
Petrie even admitted that the reason Faith was different on BtVS to how she was on Ats was because it would have made Buffy look bad otherwise. You can add in Angel as well I guess with his pointless apparence.
Add in a story and plot that makes no sense. Charachters who are dislikable or boring. Then cap it all off with the main star who is feuding with her boss and does not really get on with the rest of the cast (See both Hannigans and Caulfields post Buffy intereviews) and you have Buffy season 7.

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[> [> Are those interviews online? -- Angel's Watcher, 15:43:50 08/14/05 Sun [1] (4.158.78.201)

I don't want to say too much here for fear of deletion, but I've heard different stories about that stuff and it's hard to know what's true and what isn't.


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[> [> I agree AW, people that analyze the show via writers and actors -- Ramses 2, 16:06:09 08/14/05 Sun [1] (69.242.120.180)

interviews are always destined to believe the show was just a tumble. I tend to think in their haste to get at 'what was really happening', people forget that these interviews often were given at a time when the story was still in play.....no one was going to give story detail away. No one.

Joss keeps telling us to trust the tale....it actually works. Listening to JM talk about William being an evil serial killer? Not so much.


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[> [> [> And you are ttally right. We sould trust the tale. -- Christian, 23:23:45 08/14/05 Sun [1] (209.240.205.62)

But the thing is all of us interpreted it in so many different ways because the "TALE" was very confusing at times.


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[> [> Bad Writing? Oh Please! -- Rosie, 17:12:01 08/15/05 Mon [1] (170.97.67.115)

A lot of people complained about Season 7 having bad writing.

I thought the writing - aside from a few mid-season episodes - were great. Season 7's story was very complex and many people simply did not understand it. They had believed that Whedon would simply recapture the old days and he ended up pulling the rug from under their feet.

After reading some of these comments about S7, I'm beginning to suspect that many fans did not want Buffy to grow up.


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[> [> [> No -- Eurydice, 19:51:16 08/15/05 Mon [1] (141.154.22.57)

Season 7's story wasn't incredibly complex, it was very very simple. However, the execution of that story was made overly complicated by plot switches, red herrings, dropped threads and behind the scenes business decisions. The writers themselves have admitted to changing the focus at different times during the season in order to accomodate a potential spin-off.

And I don't recall anybody in this thread having a problem with Buffy growing up, or wanting things to be the same as in early seasons, or not being able to understand the message of facing one's own fears - not only is that message painfully simple, it's also one we hear every day from a lot of other sources than just Joss.

You liked the writing in season 7, that's great for you. Other people didn't like it, that's great for them. But just because you disagree with people doesn't make them all a bunch of idiots in denial.


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