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Date Posted: 14:09:19 08/05/05 Fri
Author: Rosalind
Author Host/IP: 154.20.170.118
Subject: Re: Silly question time
In reply to: Ramses 2 's message, "Silly question time" on 10:07:13 08/05/05 Fri

I remember being disappointed at the obvious atrophying of William's language skills when he devolved into street thug Spike. William is an educated man and Greek and Latin were part of a gentleman's education. So why can't he spell all those wonderful words? As I say, disappointing.

I always hoped that the writers, in giving him a backstory, would have made William the anonymous writer of that wonderful book of vintage Victorian porn, My Secret Life. A very naughty piece of work, penned by a very naughty Victorian gentleman. Lots of interesting spelling in this one. I have a personal reason for liking it and would have loved to see my favorite Victorian vampire being the one to have written it. Shortly after I met my now-husband, we were discussing -- stuff -- and he had never heard of My Secret Life. A few days later I actually found a copy in a vintage bookstore and bought it for him. Later I asked him how he liked it. He replied, thus sealing his fate as my future husband, "Oh, it was okay, in snatches." After I picked myself off the floor, I decided this man was The One!

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[> [> yes, but William's devolution into street thug was intentional -- 93curr, 15:13:23 08/05/05 Fri [1] (206.130.170.11)

he took the opportunity, once vamped, to reinvent himself. slumming for fun and profit. and blood. turning his back on who he was meant acting tough, imitating lower class aesthetics and ridiculing intelligent discourse. otherwise how are you gonna impress the ladies? chix dig dumb guys. smart guys? they end up as technical consultants on the '40 Year Old Virgin' movie.

losing his language/spelling skills is totally in character for a poser.


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[> [> [> Chix dig dumb guys? Excuse me? Sweeping generalisation there methinks.. -- ukfan, 17:59:45 05/24/08 Sat [1] (147.197.215.16)

No, we don't, not all of us. All my exes have PhDs, and the hub was an Oxford scholar. Street-smart "tough guys" are all mouth and no substance.


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[> [> Don't forget, though... -- Clairel, 15:29:16 08/05/05 Fri [1] (66.138.40.233)

Spike still deciphered the wall description instantaneously, in the season 7 episode at the Gilroy mission. His language skills hadn't really atrophied. In season 2, he only kept Dalton around for show.

Clairel


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[> [> No need to limit ourselves to Greek and Latin -- Eurydice, 15:47:00 08/05/05 Fri [1] (151.203.55.202)

There's Babylonian - words like "girsequ"...which...is...probably not what Spike was talking about, but I'm sure they had words for other things. Maybe in that book of protections spells Anya couldn't decipher? Jonathan seemed to recognize it as Babylonian....

And here I thought I was the only one who hoped William had written My Secret Life...whew, what a relief to know I'm not alone in my depravity. Do you suppose William really *had* a secret life, or just a really, really vivid imagination?


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[> [> [> eagerly scans the lines 'betwixt it's wee beak" for smutty upstairs maid -- Ramses 2, 18:24:19 08/05/05 Fri [1] (69.242.120.180)

connotations. Oh balls, I can't find any:)


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[> [> [> Must be a Scorpio thing. -- Rosalind, 00:47:55 08/06/05 Sat [1] (154.20.170.118)

Our depravity, that is. William must have had a secret life because he had absolutely no imagination. All this harking and larking about twixt wee beaks, not to mention all his effulgent bulging. All the hallmarks of a bloody awful pornographer posing as a bloody awful poet. I never really got the blushing mid-twenties virgin thing for dear, sweet William anyway. He's a wealthy man with a doting mother living in the capital city in the most powerful country in an era noted for its hypocrisy in sexual matters.

Prostitution was endemic in Victorian times, a woman who was seduced (today this would often be recognized as rape) by her employer and became pregnant could be put out on the street with nothing. She was ruined and prostitution was her only option. I find it hard to believe that a man as pampered and spoiled and self-satisfied as William remained a virgin. He was a romantic but being a romantic is not necessarily synonymous with chastity. Getting laid wouldn't have been difficult for him. He wants Cecily as his wife not as a sexual partner.


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