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Date Posted: 01:07:18 01/09/06 Mon
Author: nkristan@indo.net.id
Subject: ERYTHROPOIETIN (EPO) - FOR STAMINA & ENDURANCE ATHLETIC FIELD

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ERYTHROPOIETIN (EPO) - FOR STAMINA & ENDURANCE ATHLETIC FIELD (SPRINTER, TRACK-AND-FIELD, MARATHON, RUNNERS, CYCLIST, BOXER, BIKER, ETC)




Erythropoietin (pronounced, ah-rith-ro-poy-tin, and abbreviated, EPO) is a relatively recent entry into the deceitful pursuit of glory. EPO is a protein hormone produced by the kidney. After being released into the blood stream it binds with receptors in the bone marrow, where it stimulates the production of red blood cells (erythrocytes). Medically, EPO is used to treat certain forms of anemia (e.g., due to chronic kidney failure). Logically, since EPO accelerates erythrocyte production it also increases oxygen carrying capacity. This fact did not long escape notice of the athletic community.

Blood doping is the process of artificially increasing the amount of red blood cells in the body in an attempt to improve athletic performance. In the past this was accomplished by transfusion. The athlete would “donate” a unit of blood into storage and then 3 weeks later, after the body had completely replaced the blood loss, transfuse the unit back into the body. This would occur just before a big race, effectively giving the athlete an “extra” unit of blood. This enables performance improvements in endurance sports because of the extra oxygen carrying capacity.

EPO has put a whole new spin on blood doping. No need for messy transfusions, just shoot up with EPO to increase your circulating erythrocyte mass. Until recently accurate testing has been difficult because the recombinant human EPO made in the lab is virtually identical to the naturally occurring form and there are no firmly established normal ranges for EPO in the body. Thus, over the past 10 – 15 years some athletes chose to cheat because, as long as they kept their hematocrit levels below 50%, there seemed little risk of getting caught.

EPO is an injectable protein hormone that acts on bone marrow to stimulate red blood cell production. This is a new drug which is being experimented with by some elite athletes especially distance runners and elite cyclists. It has been very effective for what it is designed for and sometimes is used as a replacement for blood transfusions. Athletes use this drug to dramatically increase red blood cells which are the oxygen carrying components of blood. Athletes are well aware that if they can increase the oxygen-storing ability of their blood they can increase performance. This is the theory behind blood doping. EPO does the same thing but is more convenient considering the use of EPO just requires a number of injections. Blood doping requires drawing out approximately a liter of blood, freezing it, then thawing it and reinfusing it several weeks later. EPO has a dramatic effect on hematocrit which is the percentage of red blood cells in blood. A hematocrit of 40 means that 40% of the volume of blood is composed of red blood cells which is about normal. Athletes not uncommonly have a higher-than-average hematocrit. When an athlete injects EPO, there hematocrit can rise as much as 40%. This results in an especially high concentration of RBCS. EPO use is most widespread amongst endurance athletes yet a number of weightlifters have been experimenting with it.

Effective Dose: Between 50-300 IU/kg of bodyweight. Not to be used for more than 6 weeks. Will start seeing effects on week 3th. Inject EPO daily for 2 weeks before competition day. After week 3th, your red blood cells will remain high for the next 3-6 months.











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Methyl 1-Test is generating a tremendous word of mouth buzz in the hardcore, community and most users are comparing this amazing bodybuilding supplement to the most potent (illegal) steroids. Methyl 1 Testosterone has successfully mimicked the effect of the wildly sought after Oxandrolone better known as Anavar!

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It is recommended to use for 8 weeks only. This is very powerful stuff,16 times more anabolic than testosterone and twice powerful than 1-testosterone. Methyl-1-testosterone is methylted version of 1- testosterone, therefore yields more power.

During, off cycle it's recommended to use ephedrine 30mg + creatine 5gram + r-alpha lipoic acid + l-glutamine 5gram + thyroid hormone or similar compound 30mcg + whey protein 50g + some salt 200mg + dextrose 50g to keep the gains made. Or use ephedrine + creatine + whey protein+ r-ala. This is easy to get and use. Dont use those all in one protein creatine combo. Also use ZMA at night after the cycle. ZMA can be used all year round without any side effects.

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The above info will help you to gain muscle all year round with very less damage. If there is any side effects, it will be water retention. If taken more than 8 tabs a day, then there is serious damage.


Methyl-1-Testosterone (aka M1T)

Methyl 1-testosterone, or 17aa-1-testosterone, is the methylated version of the steroid 1-testosterone. This structural modification makes steroids much more orally bioavailable by inhibiting breakdown in the liver. Although it has only been widely available for a period of time, feedback on this compound indicates that it may be the most effective legal prohormone/steroid product on the market regardless of delivery method, and it is hands down the most effective oral product.

The profile of methyl 1-test is similar to that of 1-test – it does not convert to estrogen, non-aromatizing steroid, and it is highly anabolic and moderately androgenic (less than 1-test). When compared to orally administered methyltestosterone, methyl 1-test is 910-1600% as anabolic and 100-220% as androgenic / more androgenic than methyltestosterone

On the other hand, most users report a wealth of side effects, and this compound is not to be taken lightly. It does not have a long history of use or a well-established safety profile, and proper precautions should be taken. The side effects reported by users of methyl 1-test are many and individual reactions vary considerably.

These side effects can be reduced by lowering dosage or taking smaller doses more frequently. Combining it with another androgen (such as 4-AD) may also help, but feedback on this is limited.

Another concern with methyl 1-test (and methylated steroids in general) is hepatotoxicity. Although this tends to be exaggerated, it is still prudent to take certain precautions. First and foremost, other substances that are toxic to the liver (such as alcohol) should be avoided to avoid placing extra stress on the liver. If methyl 1-test is stacked, it would be best to stack it with something other than an oral steroid/prohormone, such as a transdermal. Milk thistle, alpha lipoic acid, and N-acetyl-cysteine are commonly recommended to help protect the liver.
Users of Methyl 1-Test should be aware that joints and connective tissues are slower to adapt to the increased weights that will be used due to the strength gaining effects of Methyl 1-Test.

When taking methyl 1-test, it is best to start out with at least a week at a dose of 5-10 mg to see how one reacts. Many users find this range to be effective, while others feel the ideal amount is 20-40 mg. It comes down to the experience, goals, and individual reaction. Many find a lower dose to be just as effective as a higher one, but with less side effects. With a compound such as this, it is generally best to err on the side of caution, especially for those that are less experienced with steroids. Most seem to find their ideal dose to be in the 10-30 mg range. Cycle length should be kept short, in the range of 4-8 weeks. Finally, it is especially important to take adequate time off after each cycle with this substance to allow the body to recover.

Always check with a physician before taking any supplement and avoid if you have liver disease or high blood pressure. Do not take if you are subject to rules prohibiting prohormone supplementation.





HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE FOR FATLOSS AND ANTI-AGING / REJUVENATION


Benefits of HGH replacement by injection reported in the medical literature are described below. Benefits are gradually achieved over three to twelve months (depend on the dosage) after restoring growth hormone levels in older patients to normal levels for a healthy young adult. Benefits may continue to increase for up to 18 months or more after beginning therapy.

It’s scientifically well proven that secretion of growth hormone by the pituitary gland decreases progressively with age. Starting after adolescence, secretion of growth hormone steadily declines until the amount present in older people is a small fraction of younger levels, often less than 10%. This is one cause of many adverse effects of aging, including the following:

1) 5% increase in fat with each 10 years of life

2) Decreases in muscle strength, skin thickness, bone density, physical endurance, mental ability, and immune defenses

3) Skin wrinkles

4) Osteoporosis

5) Alzheimer’s dementia

6) Senility

7) Obesity

8) Fatigue

9) Muscle and organ atrophy

10) And other age-related conditions, which have been reported to improve with HGH replacement therapy.


Benefits of using HGH Injection are reported in published studies include:

15% average decrease in fat.
8% average increase in muscle and lean body structures.
Improved skin texture resulting in a more youthful appearance.
Fewer skin wrinkles.
Increased bone density, reversal of osteoporosis.
Faster healing of any type of injury, fracture, or wound.
Greatly enhanced immunity and resistance to infection.
Enhanced brain function, retention of intellect with aging.
Improvement in Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s syndromes.
Improved sex drive.
Improvement in overall physical and mental well-being.
Improvement in sleep disorders, better quality of sleep.
Improved exercise tolerance.
Improved mineral balance.
Improved mood, with less depression and fatigue.
Improved heart and kidney function.


In one study, physicians studied men between the ages of 61 and 80 who were overweight. These men did not alter their diet, exercise, or smoking habits. When they were given HGH, they gained an average of 8.8% in lean muscle mass while losing 14% of their body fat. They experienced localized increases in bone density and their skin became thicker and firmer. The subjects of this study reversed these parameters of aging by 10-20 years!


Month-by-Month Improvements:


First Month: Improved stamina, better and sounder sleep, vivid dreams, feeling more refreshed upon awakening, increased energy, more optimistic attitude and a better sense of humor.

Second Month: Improved muscle tone, improved nail growth, increased strength, weight loss, enhanced sexual function, improved skin tone, better digestion, and better eyesight, especially night vision.

Third Month: More improved muscle tone, hair re-growth, increased sexual desire, less pain, improvement in mental processes, faster wound recovery and less muscle soreness, reduction in PMS symptoms, greater body flexibility, and alleviation of some menopausal symptoms

Fourth Month: Heightened and more consistent improvements, as listed above.

Fifth Month: Impressive weight loss / inch reduction, thickening of skin and greater elasticity, thickening of hair with a shiny, health appearance, improvement in skin texture/appearance, and reduction of wrinkles.

Sixth Month: Cellulite greatly diminishes, eyesight greatly improves, stronger resistance to colds, flu and other illnesses, old wounds are healing or have healed, grayed hair begins to return to natural color, blood pressure normalizes, body is much more contoured, emotional stability is improved, some pain and soreness disappear, exercise tolerance is increased, LDL and triglycerides are reduced, heart rate improves, and immune system improves.


Questions

What is Human Growth Hormone (HGH)?
HGH is produced by the pituitary gland in large amounts when we are young, but secretion falls off sharply as we age. Human Growth Hormone promotes tissue repair, cell regeneration in the bones, muscles and vital organs, and supports the immune system in combating infection and disease. HGH achieves this by improving movement of amino acids (the building blocks of cells and muscles) across cell membranes. As the body’s cells die off, HGH ensures that replacement cells are healthy and readily available. HGH Factor supplementation supports the body’s ability to self-repair and to delay the aging process.

Why haven’t I heard much about HGH before?
The reason most people have never heard of HGH before is because its cost ($1000-$3000 plus per month) and its administration (injections by prescription only) have limited its exposure to the medical profession, the wealthy and celebrities. The real HGH is only available at pharmacy only, if you can find HGH at local health store such as GNC or other similar stores, then they are definitely fake !

Is HGH therapy safe?
Yes. HGH has been used in the medical community for over three decades with success and has over 60 years of study. Normal HGH use has not been attributed to a single death. Edmond Chein, M.D., and L. Cass Terry, Ph.D., tested over 800 individuals over the age of 40 and reported in their 1995 study that when used correctly, HGH had substantial benefits and no side effects.

Who should NOT take this product?
We normally recommend HGH supplementation for people in their 30’s because that is the age where normally your natural production falls off dramatically. HGH is not intended for use by persons under 21 years old, pregnant woman, those who have or have had cancer. If you fit into any of these categories, we recommend reviewing the ingredients with your doctor before taking this product.

As intelligent individuals, each one of us must decide this for him or herself. But if you’re over 30 and experiencing problems that didn’t exist 10 years ago, maybe these problems are associated with decreased levels of human growth hormone in your blood. By age 30 that level is about one third of what it used to be at age 18. For most people the age of 18 was a time when we took our health for granted. But by the time we reach 30 we may be overweight, lacking energy, etc.

With decreasing levels of HGH as we age, is it a wonder things seem to get worse with time? The following table displays the normal level of HGH in the body measured in nanograms/milliliter of blood. As you can see, there is a dramatic difference between that of an 18 year old and anyone older than 30 (1000 vs.325). It’s no wonder we start going downhill in our 30’s.


AGE NORMAL HGH LEVEL

18 yrs 1000 nanograms/ml
20 yrs 775 nanograms/ml
25 yrs 500 nanograms/ml
30 yrs 375 nanograms/ml
35 yrs 325 nanograms/ml
40 yrs 300 nanograms/ml
85 yrs 225 nanograms/ml






1. Please identify and describe yourself:
Name: Ellis Toussier Bigio
Year of Birth: 1945 Age: 54
Sex: Male
Height 1.80 meters, 5'11.5"
Weight 154 lbs., 70 kilos

2. Why did you want to take HGH?
In June, 1998 I looked at myself in the mirror, and felt
depressed that I was looking pretty bad... many wrinkles, crows
feet around my eyes, cheeks beginning to sag. I also felt I
was going downhill, in energy, etc. I knew about growth hormone
because I had read Durk Pearson's "Life Extension" and read an
article that appeared in 1992 or early 1993 about growth hormone
in Life Magazine and I had been taking Durk Pearson and Sandy
Shaw's "Be Your Best" which contains 6 grams of arginine per
serving, for three years, 1992 and 1993 and 1994.

3. What changes do you feel after taking HGH for a while?
I felt good immediately, since the first day. I felt optimistic, and a
bit more energetic. I stopped feeling gloomy about the economy, I felt more
like starting new things, like I had when I was younger. The first physical
changes began to be noticeable after about two weeks, slightly...
my face began to look slightly younger, the skin was tightening up...
Then I lost about 1 kilo per month, for 6 months, most noticeably
around my belly. My wrinkles began to disappear, and my crows feet were
completely gone by month 4 or 5... the skin of my hands tightened
up and the dryness in the skin disappeared.

4. What body/mind measurements have changed since you started
taking HGH (e.g. "Tricep diameter increased from 20 inches
to 30 inches")?
I didn't take measurements with a ruler, but I lost 2 or 3
inches of waistline, as measured by my pants. My chest got a
line. My biceps grew, but I haven't measured them. I am not a
body builder or an athlete, and it never occurred to me to measure
them. I am still thin, and I like it like this, but many persons
on this board, for example Marty, and John, who have come to Mexico,
have inspired me to do more exercise, which I do, but not to become
very big, just to feel better.

HDL cholesterol before/after: don't know. Total was about 220. (I will confirm)
LDL cholesterol before/after: don't know. Total is about 170. (I will confirm.)
blood pressure before/after: before, about 120/80 120/70; after, about 100/60 90/60

For how long can you hold your breath?:
I held my breath for 1 minute and 50 seconds when challenged by
my friends... Since then I have held it for 1 minute and 30
seconds many times, as a demonstration, but I don't want to hold
it for 1 minute and 50 seconds any more because I am afraid it isn't
good for my brain. I swam underwater for about 35 meters, in a
swimming pool 25 meters long. To me, the importance of this is
that it indicates my lungs are processing oxygen like a young man.

5. What product(s) did/do you use, and for how long
(e.g. "WonderHGH, for 5 months, starting May 1999")?
Humatrope, by Eli Lilly, 1 i.u. per day (the measurement has
changed... it used to be 6 i.u.'s per week, same amount is now
about 7 i.u.'s per week.) continuously since June, 1998. I
began taking 2 i.u.'s 3 times per week following the indications
of Daniel Rudman's experiment of 1990, then I read "Grow Young
on HGH" by Dr. Ronald Klatz and decided to change to 1 i.u. 6
days per week, then 1/2 i.u. twice per day 6 days per week,
then a little less than 1/2 i.u. 14 times per week, in the new
measurement now equivalent to 1 i.u. per day, every day. When
Humatrope ran out of stock for a few weeks, I bought Norditropin,
by Novo Nordisk. I found it is identical in its effect, and I
suppose it is the same potency but I have not proven this with
blood tests. It is slightly more expensive than Humatrope, but
I think it is identical in its result. Recently I took 2 i.u.'s
per day for about 1 month, then I dropped to 1.5 i.u. per day
for the past month (only because of the cost.) After this
experience, I think 2 i.u.'s per day is probably a very safe
dose without any danger of side effects.

6. Have you noticed any side effects? If so, what are they?
None bad that I have noticed.

7. Where did you hear about HGH?
I read about it in Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw's "Life
Extension" then in an article about it in Life Magazine, in
1992, which mentioned the El Dorado clinic in Mexico. I didn't
know where it was, and never found it, or I might have started
taking rHGH in 1993.

8. Where do you buy your Human Growth Hormone?
I started to buy it in a pharmacy, and once I knew I was going
to take it for a very long time, I looked for and found a
wholesale supplier in Mexico City (an approved distributor of
Eli Lilly) that would sell to me.

9. How much does it cost you?
About $180 wholesale price, for Humatrope 15 i.u.'s or $178
wholesale price for Norditropin, 12 i.u.'s. List price of
Humatrope is about $180 dollars for 15 i.u.'s. (exact cost in
dollars depends on peso/dollar parity)

10. Are you under a doctor's supervision.
Now I am. At first I was not.

11. What do you see as the risks of HGH?
None. To me it is only good, nothing bad, and I have never read
any report by anybody that has had any bad side effects taking
1 i.u. or 2 i.u.'s per day. I have read of body builders taking
up to 20 i.u.'s per day, and getting acromegaly, but that is
crazy, in my opinion. Trooper, who corresponded with us at the
beginning of this board, was taking 15 i.u.'s every other day,
prescribed to him by his doctor, and was having terrible pains, in his
words, but very good in every other way for his immune system and
his physical appearance. As soon as he mentioned how much he was taking,
Jay Caplan and I jumped! After receiving our opinion, he cut down
the dose to about 5 i.u.'s per day, and the pains disappeared. We have
not heard from Trooper in many months, so I cannot tell you how
he has been.

12. Has HGH met your expectations or not? Explain.
It has made me feel much better, even though I was not sick to begin
with. I have more energy, I think more positive, like
when I was young... I look better, which is probably a sign of
good health and... I like to look better and younger.

13. What was your baseline IGF-1 measurement before HGH
treatment?
I never measured my baseline IGF-1, because I started without being
under the supervision of a doctor. I do not recommend what I did
as a good example to follow... but it was not dangerous, per se, not
to know my baseline figure, since there is probably no baseline figure
that would convince me not to take rHGH, at age 52,
(I knew I was standing on the edge of a cliff. I knew that what
was in store for me was a rather rapid physical decline, like my
father and my grandfather and my great-grandfather, before me.)
Dr. Klatz's book, chapter 3 (GH Therapy in 202 Adults) page 34,
Dr. Chein and Terry report the average IGF-1 baseline level of 42
adults was 238.8, and increased to 384.5 after starting rHGH
replacement therapy, but the book doesn't clarify what was the
dose they received, nor does it clarify what was the average age
of this group of persons.

14. What is your baseline IGF-1 measurement now?
My first IGF-1 result (taken at the insistence of my doctor) was
360 ng/ml about 5 weeks after I had started. After I got this
result, and after I had corresponded with Dr. James Hughes on
some board, I decided to try to get my level up to IGF-1 = 500 ng/ml
so I increased the dose to 1.5 i.u.'s per day (with my doctor's
approval). Instead of going UP, my result went DOWN to 270 ng/ml!!!
I was very disappointed with this result. I wrote to Lazarus
Long/Howard Turney who told me that IGF-1 results are not very
reliable, and that I should continue if I am feeling well and
getting results. I have not taken any more tests since then,
but I will take another one soon.

15. When and how much HGH do you take? Describe your
treatment strategy?
Currently I am taking 1.5 i.u. per day, one dose in the morning,
plus 3.4 grams of l-glutamine one dose in the morning
(separately from the rHGH, and on an empty stomach) or at
night. I also am taking EDTA Chelation therapy to reduce levels
of toxic metals from my body, according to the protocol of
Dr. Elmer Cranton, administered here in Mexico City by my
doctor. I also take a small amount of Deprenyl (selegiline) and
Piracetam to help keep my brain from losing neurons, and so that it
gets more oxygen and nutrients, which might also be the cause of loss
of neurons. My complete regimen includes excellent nutrition, a lot
of vitamins, and exercise.

16. Do you replace any other hormones? Which?
I take melatonin and DHEA. I do not replace testosterone, because I tested high, and I do not replace thyroid, because I am thin, and I suppose I have a good level. I have also taken pregnenolone, and recently I started taking androstenedione with tribulus, (and saw palmetto.)

17. Any advice for a person under 40 wanting to take HGH?
If you take more than 1 i.u. per day, you should monitor your
results. Even if IGF-1 tests are not very accurate, if you are
taking a dose higher than 1 i.u. you must take a blood test to
be certain you are not in the vicinity of 1000 ng/ml. I agree
with Dr. James Hughes's recommendation that IGF-1 between 350
and 500 is a good level to aim for, and if you are very young
and also an athlete maybe you are o.k. with a result of 750
ng/ml. After this level, you risk getting the side effects, of
which the worst are carpal tunnel syndrome and the absolute worse,
acromegaly (Gigantism, or Giantism.)

18. Any advice for a person over 40 wanting to take HGH?
Run... don't walk... to the nearest anti-aging doctor, get a
prescription, and start taking rHGH as soon as you can! If you
cannot afford it, or if you are afraid of possible side effects,
of if you are afraid of the injection, or you can't get a
prescription, then start taking amino acids to help release
some growth hormone from your own pituitary. This is probably
less effective than taking rHGH by sub-cutaneous injection, but
better than doing nothing. It is easier to keep your body
repaired than to repair it after the damage has been done.
I have reversed all of the signs of aging in my body to some
degree, but the one that I have reversed the least is my
apparent age... my face... I look maybe 45 years old,
although I feel like when I was 25 or 30. The skin on my face
looks better, and tighter, not as dry, with fewer wrinkles...
but the muscles that started to droop on my cheeks will
probably never go back to their place, without plastic surgery,
which I am not going to have done anytime soon...
On the other hand, I am glad I started to take action at age 52,
and that I didn't wait until age 62, or 72. Looking like I am 45
is better than looking my age, 54, so I am pleased and very
grateful for this. - Ellis Toussier, Sept. 1999

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[> Re: ERYTHROPOIETIN (EPO) - FOR STAMINA & ENDURANCE ATHLETIC FIELD -- mike (New message for you), 18:25:12 07/13/07 Fri

nolva or clomid please for pct. how much?
also very interested in hormone replacement therapy - test and hgh. again, how much? thanks.
regards, Mike


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>ERYTHROPOIETIN (EPO) - FOR STAMINA & ENDURANCE
>ATHLETIC FIELD (SPRINTER, TRACK-AND-FIELD, MARATHON,
>RUNNERS, CYCLIST, BOXER, BIKER, ETC)
>
>
>
>
>Erythropoietin (pronounced, ah-rith-ro-poy-tin, and
>abbreviated, EPO) is a relatively recent entry into
>the deceitful pursuit of glory. EPO is a protein
>hormone produced by the kidney. After being released
>into the blood stream it binds with receptors in the
>bone marrow, where it stimulates the production of red
>blood cells (erythrocytes). Medically, EPO is used to
>treat certain forms of anemia (e.g., due to chronic
>kidney failure). Logically, since EPO accelerates
>erythrocyte production it also increases oxygen
>carrying capacity. This fact did not long escape
>notice of the athletic community.
>
>Blood doping is the process of artificially increasing
>the amount of red blood cells in the body in an
>attempt to improve athletic performance. In the past
>this was accomplished by transfusion. The athlete
>would “donate” a unit of blood into storage and then 3
>weeks later, after the body had completely replaced
>the blood loss, transfuse the unit back into the body.
>This would occur just before a big race, effectively
>giving the athlete an “extra” unit of blood. This
>enables performance improvements in endurance sports
>because of the extra oxygen carrying capacity.
>
>EPO has put a whole new spin on blood doping. No need
>for messy transfusions, just shoot up with EPO to
>increase your circulating erythrocyte mass. Until
>recently accurate testing has been difficult because
>the recombinant human EPO made in the lab is virtually
>identical to the naturally occurring form and there
>are no firmly established normal ranges for EPO in the
>body. Thus, over the past 10 – 15 years some athletes
>chose to cheat because, as long as they kept their
>hematocrit levels below 50%, there seemed little risk
>of getting caught.
>
>EPO is an injectable protein hormone that acts on
>bone marrow to stimulate red blood cell production.
>This is a new drug which is being experimented with by
>some elite athletes especially distance runners and
>elite cyclists. It has been very effective for what
>it is designed for and sometimes is used as a
>replacement for blood transfusions. Athletes use this
>drug to dramatically increase red blood cells which
>are the oxygen carrying components of blood. Athletes
>are well aware that if they can increase the
>oxygen-storing ability of their blood they can
>increase performance. This is the theory behind blood
>doping. EPO does the same thing but is more
>convenient considering the use of EPO just requires a
>number of injections. Blood doping requires drawing
>out approximately a liter of blood, freezing it, then
>thawing it and reinfusing it several weeks later. EPO
>has a dramatic effect on hematocrit which is the
>percentage of red blood cells in blood. A hematocrit
>of 40 means that 40% of the volume of blood is
>composed of red blood cells which is about normal.
>Athletes not uncommonly have a higher-than-average
>hematocrit. When an athlete injects EPO, there
>hematocrit can rise as much as 40%. This results in
>an especially high concentration of RBCS. EPO use is
>most widespread amongst endurance athletes yet a
>number of weightlifters have been experimenting with
>it.
>
>Effective Dose: Between 50-300 IU/kg of bodyweight.
>Not to be used for more than 6 weeks. Will start
>seeing effects on week 3th. Inject EPO daily for 2
>weeks before competition day. After week 3th, your red
>blood cells will remain high for the next 3-6 months.
>
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>
>METHYL 1-TESTOSTERONE
>
>
>Andro (prohormone supplement) has been popular for
>long time. But that’s the past. This time, right now,
>methyl 1-testosterone is number one in the game.
>
>
>COMES A NEW MOST STRONGEST AND POWERFUL PROHORMONE
>AVAILABLE AND HIT THE THE MARKET !
>
>M1T aka Methyl 1-Testosterone. This is 1-TESTOSTERONE
>in METHYL FORM – MORE POWER AND POTENT PROHORMONE-
>RESULT GUARANTEED!!
>
>Only US$ 136.00 per 240 tabs, s&h fee not included.
>
>You can gain serious muscle without any bloat with
>Methyl 1 Testosterone. VERY VERY Hard to find!! M1T is
>now illegal in the USA !
>
>240 tabs? It can last 60 to 240 days depending on the
>usage. Minimum is 3 tabs for beginers and up to 5 tabs
>for experienced prohormone user. 4 tabs it self can
>show result within same day in term of massive
>incredible pump. In fact I use it too for my bulk
>season.
>
>This supplement should not be taken by novice
>prohormone users or by anyone under 21. Do not take
>unless you are serious with your training and diet.
>
>Our new Methyl 1-Testosterone uses a chemical
>Methylation process previously available only with
>Anabolic Steroids like Oxandrolone, Dianabol and
>Anadrol 50! Methyl 1-Testosterone can truly change
>your workouts forever! Mindblowing pumps and
>unbelievable gains in muscle size and strength in very
>short periods of time. At 16 times more potent than
>Testosterone, M1T is undoubtably the most effective
>prohormone to ever hit store shelves. M1T has more in
>common with its anabolic steroid cousins than it does
>with existing prohormones.
>
>Methyl 1-Test is generating a tremendous word of mouth
>buzz in the hardcore, community and most users are
>comparing this amazing bodybuilding supplement to the
>most potent (illegal) steroids. Methyl 1 Testosterone
>has successfully mimicked the effect of the wildly
>sought after Oxandrolone better known as Anavar!
>
>Even the dosages resemble these pharmaceuticals as
>only 10-20 mg per day yield dramatic strength and lean
>bodyweight increases with no water retention! Methyl 1
>Testosterone is the first prohormone to yield almost
>100% bioavailability by inhibiting breakdown in the
>liver !!
>It is recommended to use for 8 weeks only. This is
>very powerful stuff,16 times more anabolic than
>testosterone and twice powerful than 1-testosterone.
>Methyl-1-testosterone is methylted version of 1-
>testosterone, therefore yields more power.
>
>During, off cycle it's recommended to use ephedrine
>30mg + creatine 5gram + r-alpha lipoic acid +
>l-glutamine 5gram + thyroid hormone or similar
>compound 30mcg + whey protein 50g + some salt 200mg +
>dextrose 50g to keep the gains made. Or use ephedrine
>+ creatine + whey protein+ r-ala. This is easy to get
>and use. Dont use those all in one protein creatine
>combo. Also use ZMA at night after the cycle. ZMA can
>be used all year round without any side effects.
>
>This combo will only be available next year as
>ephedrine is big issue all over the world. In
>meanwhile, you can buy ephedrine separately from me.
>
>The above info will help you to gain muscle all year
>round with very less damage. If there is any side
>effects, it will be water retention. If taken more
>than 8 tabs a day, then there is serious damage.
>
>
>Methyl-1-Testosterone (aka M1T)
>
>Methyl 1-testosterone, or 17aa-1-testosterone, is the
>methylated version of the steroid 1-testosterone. This
>structural modification makes steroids much more
>orally bioavailable by inhibiting breakdown in the
>liver. Although it has only been widely available for
>a period of time, feedback on this compound indicates
>that it may be the most effective legal
>prohormone/steroid product on the market regardless of
>delivery method, and it is hands down the most
>effective oral product.
>
>The profile of methyl 1-test is similar to that of
>1-test – it does not convert to estrogen,
>non-aromatizing steroid, and it is highly anabolic and
>moderately androgenic (less than 1-test). When
>compared to orally administered methyltestosterone,
>methyl 1-test is 910-1600% as anabolic and 100-220% as
>androgenic / more androgenic than methyltestosterone
>
>On the other hand, most users report a wealth of side
>effects, and this compound is not to be taken lightly.
>It does not have a long history of use or a
>well-established safety profile, and proper
>precautions should be taken. The side effects reported
>by users of methyl 1-test are many and individual
>reactions vary considerably.
>
>These side effects can be reduced by lowering dosage
>or taking smaller doses more frequently. Combining it
>with another androgen (such as 4-AD) may also help,
>but feedback on this is limited.
>
>Another concern with methyl 1-test (and methylated
>steroids in general) is hepatotoxicity. Although this
>tends to be exaggerated, it is still prudent to take
>certain precautions. First and foremost, other
>substances that are toxic to the liver (such as
>alcohol) should be avoided to avoid placing extra
>stress on the liver. If methyl 1-test is stacked, it
>would be best to stack it with something other than an
>oral steroid/prohormone, such as a transdermal. Milk
>thistle, alpha lipoic acid, and N-acetyl-cysteine are
>commonly recommended to help protect the liver.
>Users of Methyl 1-Test should be aware that joints and
>connective tissues are slower to adapt to the
>increased weights that will be used due to the
>strength gaining effects of Methyl 1-Test.
>
>When taking methyl 1-test, it is best to start out
>with at least a week at a dose of 5-10 mg to see how
>one reacts. Many users find this range to be
>effective, while others feel the ideal amount is 20-40
>mg. It comes down to the experience, goals, and
>individual reaction. Many find a lower dose to be just
>as effective as a higher one, but with less side
>effects. With a compound such as this, it is generally
>best to err on the side of caution, especially for
>those that are less experienced with steroids. Most
>seem to find their ideal dose to be in the 10-30 mg
>range. Cycle length should be kept short, in the range
>of 4-8 weeks. Finally, it is especially important to
>take adequate time off after each cycle with this
>substance to allow the body to recover.
>
>Always check with a physician before taking any
>supplement and avoid if you have liver disease or high
>blood pressure. Do not take if you are subject to
>rules prohibiting prohormone supplementation.
>
>
>
>
>
>HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE FOR FATLOSS AND ANTI-AGING /
>REJUVENATION
>
>
>Benefits of HGH replacement by injection reported in
>the medical literature are described below. Benefits
>are gradually achieved over three to twelve months
>(depend on the dosage) after restoring growth hormone
>levels in older patients to normal levels for a
>healthy young adult. Benefits may continue to
>increase for up to 18 months or more after beginning
>therapy.
>
> It’s scientifically well proven that secretion
>of growth hormone by the pituitary gland decreases
>progressively with age. Starting after adolescence,
>secretion of growth hormone steadily declines until
>the amount present in older people is a small fraction
>of younger levels, often less than 10%. This is one
>cause of many adverse effects of aging, including the
>following:
>
>1) 5% increase in fat with each 10 years of life
>
>2) Decreases in muscle strength, skin thickness, bone
>density, physical endurance, mental ability, and
>immune defenses
>
>3) Skin wrinkles
>
>4) Osteoporosis
>
>5) Alzheimer’s dementia
>
>6) Senility
>
>7) Obesity
>
>8) Fatigue
>
>9) Muscle and organ atrophy
>
>10) And other age-related conditions, which have been
>reported to improve with HGH replacement therapy.
>
>
>Benefits of using HGH Injection are reported in
>published studies include:
>
>15% average decrease in fat.
>8% average increase in muscle and lean body structures.
>Improved skin texture resulting in a more youthful
>appearance.
>Fewer skin wrinkles.
>Increased bone density, reversal of osteoporosis.
>Faster healing of any type of injury, fracture, or
>wound.
>Greatly enhanced immunity and resistance to infection.
>Enhanced brain function, retention of intellect with
>aging.
>Improvement in Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s syndromes.
>Improved sex drive.
>Improvement in overall physical and mental well-being.
>Improvement in sleep disorders, better quality of
>sleep.
>Improved exercise tolerance.
>Improved mineral balance.
>Improved mood, with less depression and fatigue.
>Improved heart and kidney function.
>
>
>In one study, physicians studied men between the ages
>of 61 and 80 who were overweight. These men did not
>alter their diet, exercise, or smoking habits. When
>they were given HGH, they gained an average of 8.8% in
>lean muscle mass while losing 14% of their body fat.
>They experienced localized increases in bone density
>and their skin became thicker and firmer. The subjects
>of this study reversed these parameters of aging by
>10-20 years!
>
>
>Month-by-Month Improvements:
>
>
>First Month: Improved stamina, better and sounder
>sleep, vivid dreams, feeling more refreshed upon
>awakening, increased energy, more optimistic attitude
>and a better sense of humor.
>
>Second Month: Improved muscle tone, improved nail
>growth, increased strength, weight loss, enhanced
>sexual function, improved skin tone, better digestion,
>and better eyesight, especially night vision.
>
>Third Month: More improved muscle tone, hair
>re-growth, increased sexual desire, less pain,
>improvement in mental processes, faster wound recovery
>and less muscle soreness, reduction in PMS symptoms,
>greater body flexibility, and alleviation of some
>menopausal symptoms
>
>Fourth Month: Heightened and more consistent
>improvements, as listed above.
>
>Fifth Month: Impressive weight loss / inch reduction,
>thickening of skin and greater elasticity, thickening
>of hair with a shiny, health appearance, improvement
>in skin texture/appearance, and reduction of wrinkles.
>
>Sixth Month: Cellulite greatly diminishes, eyesight
>greatly improves, stronger resistance to colds, flu
>and other illnesses, old wounds are healing or have
>healed, grayed hair begins to return to natural color,
>blood pressure normalizes, body is much more
>contoured, emotional stability is improved, some pain
>and soreness disappear, exercise tolerance is
>increased, LDL and triglycerides are reduced, heart
>rate improves, and immune system improves.
>
>
>Questions
>
>What is Human Growth Hormone (HGH)?
>HGH is produced by the pituitary gland in large
>amounts when we are young, but secretion falls off
>sharply as we age. Human Growth Hormone promotes
>tissue repair, cell regeneration in the bones, muscles
>and vital organs, and supports the immune system in
>combating infection and disease. HGH achieves this by
>improving movement of amino acids (the building blocks
>of cells and muscles) across cell membranes. As the
>body’s cells die off, HGH ensures that replacement
>cells are healthy and readily available. HGH Factor
>supplementation supports the body’s ability to
>self-repair and to delay the aging process.
>
>Why haven’t I heard much about HGH before?
>The reason most people have never heard of HGH before
>is because its cost ($1000-$3000 plus per month) and
>its administration (injections by prescription only)
>have limited its exposure to the medical profession,
>the wealthy and celebrities. The real HGH is only
>available at pharmacy only, if you can find HGH at
>local health store such as GNC or other similar
>stores, then they are definitely fake !
>
>Is HGH therapy safe?
>Yes. HGH has been used in the medical community for
>over three decades with success and has over 60 years
>of study. Normal HGH use has not been attributed to a
>single death. Edmond Chein, M.D., and L. Cass Terry,
>Ph.D., tested over 800 individuals over the age of 40
>and reported in their 1995 study that when used
>correctly, HGH had substantial benefits and no side
>effects.
>
>Who should NOT take this product?
>We normally recommend HGH supplementation for people
>in their 30’s because that is the age where normally
>your natural production falls off dramatically. HGH is
>not intended for use by persons under 21 years old,
>pregnant woman, those who have or have had cancer. If
>you fit into any of these categories, we recommend
>reviewing the ingredients with your doctor before
>taking this product.
>
>As intelligent individuals, each one of us must decide
>this for him or herself. But if you’re over 30 and
>experiencing problems that didn’t exist 10 years ago,
>maybe these problems are associated with decreased
>levels of human growth hormone in your blood. By age
>30 that level is about one third of what it used to be
>at age 18. For most people the age of 18 was a time
>when we took our health for granted. But by the time
>we reach 30 we may be overweight, lacking energy, etc.
>
>With decreasing levels of HGH as we age, is it a
>wonder things seem to get worse with time? The
>following table displays the normal level of HGH in
>the body measured in nanograms/milliliter of blood. As
>you can see, there is a dramatic difference between
>that of an 18 year old and anyone older than 30 (1000
>vs.325). It’s no wonder we start going downhill in our
>30’s.
>
>
>AGE NORMAL HGH LEVEL
>
>18 yrs 1000 nanograms/ml
>20 yrs 775 nanograms/ml
>25 yrs 500 nanograms/ml
>30 yrs 375 nanograms/ml
>35 yrs 325 nanograms/ml
>40 yrs 300 nanograms/ml
>85 yrs 225 nanograms/ml
>
>
>
>
>
>
>1. Please identify and describe yourself:
>Name: Ellis Toussier Bigio
>Year of Birth: 1945 Age: 54
>Sex: Male
>Height 1.80 meters, 5'11.5"
>Weight 154 lbs., 70 kilos
>
>2. Why did you want to take HGH?
>In June, 1998 I looked at myself in the mirror, and
>felt
>depressed that I was looking pretty bad... many
>wrinkles, crows
>feet around my eyes, cheeks beginning to sag. I also
>felt I
>was going downhill, in energy, etc. I knew about
>growth hormone
>because I had read Durk Pearson's "Life Extension" and
>read an
>article that appeared in 1992 or early 1993 about
>growth hormone
>in Life Magazine and I had been taking Durk Pearson
>and Sandy
>Shaw's "Be Your Best" which contains 6 grams of
>arginine per
>serving, for three years, 1992 and 1993 and 1994.
>
>3. What changes do you feel after taking HGH for a
>while?
>I felt good immediately, since the first day. I felt
>optimistic, and a
>bit more energetic. I stopped feeling gloomy about the
>economy, I felt more
>like starting new things, like I had when I was
>younger. The first physical
>changes began to be noticeable after about two weeks,
>slightly...
>my face began to look slightly younger, the skin was
>tightening up...
>Then I lost about 1 kilo per month, for 6 months, most
>noticeably
>around my belly. My wrinkles began to disappear, and
>my crows feet were
>completely gone by month 4 or 5... the skin of my
>hands tightened
>up and the dryness in the skin disappeared.
>
>4. What body/mind measurements have changed since you
>started
>taking HGH (e.g. "Tricep diameter increased from 20
>inches
>to 30 inches")?
>I didn't take measurements with a ruler, but I lost 2
>or 3
>inches of waistline, as measured by my pants. My chest
>got a
>line. My biceps grew, but I haven't measured them. I
>am not a
>body builder or an athlete, and it never occurred to
>me to measure
>them. I am still thin, and I like it like this, but
>many persons
>on this board, for example Marty, and John, who have
>come to Mexico,
>have inspired me to do more exercise, which I do, but
>not to become
>very big, just to feel better.
>
>HDL cholesterol before/after: don't know. Total was
>about 220. (I will confirm)
>LDL cholesterol before/after: don't know. Total is
>about 170. (I will confirm.)
>blood pressure before/after: before, about 120/80
>120/70; after, about 100/60 90/60
>
>For how long can you hold your breath?:
>I held my breath for 1 minute and 50 seconds when
>challenged by
>my friends... Since then I have held it for 1 minute
>and 30
>seconds many times, as a demonstration, but I don't
>want to hold
>it for 1 minute and 50 seconds any more because I am
>afraid it isn't
>good for my brain. I swam underwater for about 35
>meters, in a
>swimming pool 25 meters long. To me, the importance of
>this is
>that it indicates my lungs are processing oxygen like
>a young man.
>
>5. What product(s) did/do you use, and for how long
>(e.g. "WonderHGH, for 5 months, starting May 1999")?
>Humatrope, by Eli Lilly, 1 i.u. per day (the
>measurement has
>changed... it used to be 6 i.u.'s per week, same
>amount is now
>about 7 i.u.'s per week.) continuously since June,
>1998. I
>began taking 2 i.u.'s 3 times per week following the
>indications
>of Daniel Rudman's experiment of 1990, then I read
>"Grow Young
>on HGH" by Dr. Ronald Klatz and decided to change to 1
>i.u. 6
>days per week, then 1/2 i.u. twice per day 6 days per
>week,
>then a little less than 1/2 i.u. 14 times per week, in
>the new
>measurement now equivalent to 1 i.u. per day, every
>day. When
>Humatrope ran out of stock for a few weeks, I bought
>Norditropin,
>by Novo Nordisk. I found it is identical in its
>effect, and I
>suppose it is the same potency but I have not proven
>this with
>blood tests. It is slightly more expensive than
>Humatrope, but
>I think it is identical in its result. Recently I took
>2 i.u.'s
>per day for about 1 month, then I dropped to 1.5 i.u.
>per day
>for the past month (only because of the cost.) After
>this
>experience, I think 2 i.u.'s per day is probably a
>very safe
>dose without any danger of side effects.
>
>6. Have you noticed any side effects? If so, what are
>they?
>None bad that I have noticed.
>
>7. Where did you hear about HGH?
>I read about it in Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw's "Life
>Extension" then in an article about it in Life
>Magazine, in
>1992, which mentioned the El Dorado clinic in Mexico.
>I didn't
>know where it was, and never found it, or I might have
>started
>taking rHGH in 1993.
>
>8. Where do you buy your Human Growth Hormone?
>I started to buy it in a pharmacy, and once I knew I
>was going
>to take it for a very long time, I looked for and
>found a
>wholesale supplier in Mexico City (an approved
>distributor of
>Eli Lilly) that would sell to me.
>
>9. How much does it cost you?
>About $180 wholesale price, for Humatrope 15 i.u.'s or
>$178
>wholesale price for Norditropin, 12 i.u.'s. List price
>of
>Humatrope is about $180 dollars for 15 i.u.'s. (exact
>cost in
>dollars depends on peso/dollar parity)
>
>10. Are you under a doctor's supervision.
>Now I am. At first I was not.
>
>11. What do you see as the risks of HGH?
>None. To me it is only good, nothing bad, and I have
>never read
>any report by anybody that has had any bad side
>effects taking
>1 i.u. or 2 i.u.'s per day. I have read of body
>builders taking
>up to 20 i.u.'s per day, and getting acromegaly, but
>that is
>crazy, in my opinion. Trooper, who corresponded with
>us at the
>beginning of this board, was taking 15 i.u.'s every
>other day,
>prescribed to him by his doctor, and was having
>terrible pains, in his
>words, but very good in every other way for his immune
>system and
>his physical appearance. As soon as he mentioned how
>much he was taking,
>Jay Caplan and I jumped! After receiving our opinion,
>he cut down
>the dose to about 5 i.u.'s per day, and the pains
>disappeared. We have
>not heard from Trooper in many months, so I cannot
>tell you how
>he has been.
>
>12. Has HGH met your expectations or not? Explain.
>It has made me feel much better, even though I was not
>sick to begin
>with. I have more energy, I think more positive, like
>when I was young... I look better, which is probably a
>sign of
>good health and... I like to look better and younger.
>
>13. What was your baseline IGF-1 measurement before
>HGH
>treatment?
>I never measured my baseline IGF-1, because I started
>without being
>under the supervision of a doctor. I do not recommend
>what I did
>as a good example to follow... but it was not
>dangerous, per se, not
>to know my baseline figure, since there is probably no
>baseline figure
>that would convince me not to take rHGH, at age 52,
>(I knew I was standing on the edge of a cliff. I knew
>that what
>was in store for me was a rather rapid physical
>decline, like my
>father and my grandfather and my great-grandfather,
>before me.)
>Dr. Klatz's book, chapter 3 (GH Therapy in 202 Adults)
>page 34,
>Dr. Chein and Terry report the average IGF-1 baseline
>level of 42
>adults was 238.8, and increased to 384.5 after
>starting rHGH
>replacement therapy, but the book doesn't clarify what
>was the
>dose they received, nor does it clarify what was the
>average age
>of this group of persons.
>
>14. What is your baseline IGF-1 measurement now?
>My first IGF-1 result (taken at the insistence of my
>doctor) was
>360 ng/ml about 5 weeks after I had started. After I
>got this
>result, and after I had corresponded with Dr. James
>Hughes on
>some board, I decided to try to get my level up to
>IGF-1 = 500 ng/ml
>so I increased the dose to 1.5 i.u.'s per day (with my
>doctor's
>approval). Instead of going UP, my result went DOWN to
>270 ng/ml!!!
>I was very disappointed with this result. I wrote to
>Lazarus
>Long/Howard Turney who told me that IGF-1 results are
>not very
>reliable, and that I should continue if I am feeling
>well and
>getting results. I have not taken any more tests since
>then,
>but I will take another one soon.
>
>15. When and how much HGH do you take? Describe your
>treatment strategy?
>Currently I am taking 1.5 i.u. per day, one dose in
>the morning,
>plus 3.4 grams of l-glutamine one dose in the morning
>(separately from the rHGH, and on an empty stomach) or
>at
>night. I also am taking EDTA Chelation therapy to
>reduce levels
>of toxic metals from my body, according to the
>protocol of
>Dr. Elmer Cranton, administered here in Mexico City by
>my
>doctor. I also take a small amount of Deprenyl
>(selegiline) and
>Piracetam to help keep my brain from losing neurons,
>and so that it
>gets more oxygen and nutrients, which might also be
>the cause of loss
>of neurons. My complete regimen includes excellent
>nutrition, a lot
>of vitamins, and exercise.
>
>16. Do you replace any other hormones? Which?
>I take melatonin and DHEA. I do not replace
>testosterone, because I tested high, and I do not
>replace thyroid, because I am thin, and I suppose I
>have a good level. I have also taken pregnenolone, and
>recently I started taking androstenedione with
>tribulus, (and saw palmetto.)
>
>17. Any advice for a person under 40 wanting to take
>HGH?
>If you take more than 1 i.u. per day, you should
>monitor your
>results. Even if IGF-1 tests are not very accurate, if
>you are
>taking a dose higher than 1 i.u. you must take a blood
>test to
>be certain you are not in the vicinity of 1000 ng/ml.
>I agree
>with Dr. James Hughes's recommendation that IGF-1
>between 350
>and 500 is a good level to aim for, and if you are
>very young
>and also an athlete maybe you are o.k. with a result
>of 750
>ng/ml. After this level, you risk getting the side
>effects, of
>which the worst are carpal tunnel syndrome and the
>absolute worse,
>acromegaly (Gigantism, or Giantism.)
>
>18. Any advice for a person over 40 wanting to take
>HGH?
>Run... don't walk... to the nearest anti-aging doctor,
>get a
>prescription, and start taking rHGH as soon as you
>can! If you
>cannot afford it, or if you are afraid of possible
>side effects,
>of if you are afraid of the injection, or you can't
>get a
>prescription, then start taking amino acids to help
>release
>some growth hormone from your own pituitary. This is
>probably
>less effective than taking rHGH by sub-cutaneous
>injection, but
>better than doing nothing. It is easier to keep your
>body
>repaired than to repair it after the damage has been
>done.
>I have reversed all of the signs of aging in my body
>to some
>degree, but the one that I have reversed the least is
>my
>apparent age... my face... I look maybe 45 years old,
>although I feel like when I was 25 or 30. The skin on
>my face
>looks better, and tighter, not as dry, with fewer
>wrinkles...
>but the muscles that started to droop on my cheeks
>will
>probably never go back to their place, without plastic
>surgery,
>which I am not going to have done anytime soon...
>On the other hand, I am glad I started to take action
>at age 52,
>and that I didn't wait until age 62, or 72. Looking
>like I am 45
>is better than looking my age, 54, so I am pleased and
>very
>grateful for this. - Ellis Toussier, Sept. 1999


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>ATHLETIC FIELD (SPRINTER, TRACK-AND-FIELD, MARATHON,
>RUNNERS, CYCLIST, BOXER, BIKER, ETC)
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>
>
>
>Erythropoietin (pronounced, ah-rith-ro-poy-tin, and
>abbreviated, EPO) is a relatively recent entry into
>the deceitful pursuit of glory. EPO is a protein
>hormone produced by the kidney. After being released
>into the blood stream it binds with receptors in the
>bone marrow, where it stimulates the production of red
>blood cells (erythrocytes). Medically, EPO is used to
>treat certain forms of anemia (e.g., due to chronic
>kidney failure). Logically, since EPO accelerates
>erythrocyte production it also increases oxygen
>carrying capacity. This fact did not long escape
>notice of the athletic community.
>
>Blood doping is the process of artificially increasing
>the amount of red blood cells in the body in an
>attempt to improve athletic performance. In the past
>this was accomplished by transfusion. The athlete
>would “donate” a unit of blood into storage and then 3
>weeks later, after the body had completely replaced
>the blood loss, transfuse the unit back into the body.
>This would occur just before a big race, effectively
>giving the athlete an “extra” unit of blood. This
>enables performance improvements in endurance sports
>because of the extra oxygen carrying capacity.
>
>EPO has put a whole new spin on blood doping. No need
>for messy transfusions, just shoot up with EPO to
>increase your circulating erythrocyte mass. Until
>recently accurate testing has been difficult because
>the recombinant human EPO made in the lab is virtually
>identical to the naturally occurring form and there
>are no firmly established normal ranges for EPO in the
>body. Thus, over the past 10 – 15 years some athletes
>chose to cheat because, as long as they kept their
>hematocrit levels below 50%, there seemed little risk
>of getting caught.
>
>EPO is an injectable protein hormone that acts on
>bone marrow to stimulate red blood cell production.
>This is a new drug which is being experimented with by
>some elite athletes especially distance runners and
>elite cyclists. It has been very effective for what
>it is designed for and sometimes is used as a
>replacement for blood transfusions. Athletes use this
>drug to dramatically increase red blood cells which
>are the oxygen carrying components of blood. Athletes
>are well aware that if they can increase the
>oxygen-storing ability of their blood they can
>increase performance. This is the theory behind blood
>doping. EPO does the same thing but is more
>convenient considering the use of EPO just requires a
>number of injections. Blood doping requires drawing
>out approximately a liter of blood, freezing it, then
>thawing it and reinfusing it several weeks later. EPO
>has a dramatic effect on hematocrit which is the
>percentage of red blood cells in blood. A hematocrit
>of 40 means that 40% of the volume of blood is
>composed of red blood cells which is about normal.
>Athletes not uncommonly have a higher-than-average
>hematocrit. When an athlete injects EPO, there
>hematocrit can rise as much as 40%. This results in
>an especially high concentration of RBCS. EPO use is
>most widespread amongst endurance athletes yet a
>number of weightlifters have been experimenting with
>it.
>
>Effective Dose: Between 50-300 IU/kg of bodyweight.
>Not to be used for more than 6 weeks. Will start
>seeing effects on week 3th. Inject EPO daily for 2
>weeks before competition day. After week 3th, your red
>blood cells will remain high for the next 3-6 months.
>
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>METHYL 1-TESTOSTERONE
>
>
>Andro (prohormone supplement) has been popular for
>long time. But that’s the past. This time, right now,
>methyl 1-testosterone is number one in the game.
>
>
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>
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>
>240 tabs? It can last 60 to 240 days depending on the
>usage. Minimum is 3 tabs for beginers and up to 5 tabs
>for experienced prohormone user. 4 tabs it self can
>show result within same day in term of massive
>incredible pump. In fact I use it too for my bulk
>season.
>
>This supplement should not be taken by novice
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>unless you are serious with your training and diet.
>
>Our new Methyl 1-Testosterone uses a chemical
>Methylation process previously available only with
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>short periods of time. At 16 times more potent than
>Testosterone, M1T is undoubtably the most effective
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>common with its anabolic steroid cousins than it does
>with existing prohormones.
>
>Methyl 1-Test is generating a tremendous word of mouth
>buzz in the hardcore, community and most users are
>comparing this amazing bodybuilding supplement to the
>most potent (illegal) steroids. Methyl 1 Testosterone
>has successfully mimicked the effect of the wildly
>sought after Oxandrolone better known as Anavar!
>
>Even the dosages resemble these pharmaceuticals as
>only 10-20 mg per day yield dramatic strength and lean
>bodyweight increases with no water retention! Methyl 1
>Testosterone is the first prohormone to yield almost
>100% bioavailability by inhibiting breakdown in the
>liver !!
>It is recommended to use for 8 weeks only. This is
>very powerful stuff,16 times more anabolic than
>testosterone and twice powerful than 1-testosterone.
>Methyl-1-testosterone is methylted version of 1-
>testosterone, therefore yields more power.
>
>During, off cycle it's recommended to use ephedrine
>30mg + creatine 5gram + r-alpha lipoic acid +
>l-glutamine 5gram + thyroid hormone or similar
>compound 30mcg + whey protein 50g + some salt 200mg +
>dextrose 50g to keep the gains made. Or use ephedrine
>+ creatine + whey protein+ r-ala. This is easy to get
>and use. Dont use those all in one protein creatine
>combo. Also use ZMA at night after the cycle. ZMA can
>be used all year round without any side effects.
>
>This combo will only be available next year as
>ephedrine is big issue all over the world. In
>meanwhile, you can buy ephedrine separately from me.
>
>The above info will help you to gain muscle all year
>round with very less damage. If there is any side
>effects, it will be water retention. If taken more
>than 8 tabs a day, then there is serious damage.
>
>
>Methyl-1-Testosterone (aka M1T)
>
>Methyl 1-testosterone, or 17aa-1-testosterone, is the
>methylated version of the steroid 1-testosterone. This
>structural modification makes steroids much more
>orally bioavailable by inhibiting breakdown in the
>liver. Although it has only been widely available for
>a period of time, feedback on this compound indicates
>that it may be the most effective legal
>prohormone/steroid product on the market regardless of
>delivery method, and it is hands down the most
>effective oral product.
>
>The profile of methyl 1-test is similar to that of
>1-test – it does not convert to estrogen,
>non-aromatizing steroid, and it is highly anabolic and
>moderately androgenic (less than 1-test). When
>compared to orally administered methyltestosterone,
>methyl 1-test is 910-1600% as anabolic and 100-220% as
>androgenic / more androgenic than methyltestosterone
>
>On the other hand, most users report a wealth of side
>effects, and this compound is not to be taken lightly.
>It does not have a long history of use or a
>well-established safety profile, and proper
>precautions should be taken. The side effects reported
>by users of methyl 1-test are many and individual
>reactions vary considerably.
>
>These side effects can be reduced by lowering dosage
>or taking smaller doses more frequently. Combining it
>with another androgen (such as 4-AD) may also help,
>but feedback on this is limited.
>
>Another concern with methyl 1-test (and methylated
>steroids in general) is hepatotoxicity. Although this
>tends to be exaggerated, it is still prudent to take
>certain precautions. First and foremost, other
>substances that are toxic to the liver (such as
>alcohol) should be avoided to avoid placing extra
>stress on the liver. If methyl 1-test is stacked, it
>would be best to stack it with something other than an
>oral steroid/prohormone, such as a transdermal. Milk
>thistle, alpha lipoic acid, and N-acetyl-cysteine are
>commonly recommended to help protect the liver.
>Users of Methyl 1-Test should be aware that joints and
>connective tissues are slower to adapt to the
>increased weights that will be used due to the
>strength gaining effects of Methyl 1-Test.
>
>When taking methyl 1-test, it is best to start out
>with at least a week at a dose of 5-10 mg to see how
>one reacts. Many users find this range to be
>effective, while others feel the ideal amount is 20-40
>mg. It comes down to the experience, goals, and
>individual reaction. Many find a lower dose to be just
>as effective as a higher one, but with less side
>effects. With a compound such as this, it is generally
>best to err on the side of caution, especially for
>those that are less experienced with steroids. Most
>seem to find their ideal dose to be in the 10-30 mg
>range. Cycle length should be kept short, in the range
>of 4-8 weeks. Finally, it is especially important to
>take adequate time off after each cycle with this
>substance to allow the body to recover.
>
>Always check with a physician before taking any
>supplement and avoid if you have liver disease or high
>blood pressure. Do not take if you are subject to
>rules prohibiting prohormone supplementation.
>
>
>
>
>
>HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE FOR FATLOSS AND ANTI-AGING /
>REJUVENATION
>
>
>Benefits of HGH replacement by injection reported in
>the medical literature are described below. Benefits
>are gradually achieved over three to twelve months
>(depend on the dosage) after restoring growth hormone
>levels in older patients to normal levels for a
>healthy young adult. Benefits may continue to
>increase for up to 18 months or more after beginning
>therapy.
>
> It’s scientifically well proven that secretion
>of growth hormone by the pituitary gland decreases
>progressively with age. Starting after adolescence,
>secretion of growth hormone steadily declines until
>the amount present in older people is a small fraction
>of younger levels, often less than 10%. This is one
>cause of many adverse effects of aging, including the
>following:
>
>1) 5% increase in fat with each 10 years of life
>
>2) Decreases in muscle strength, skin thickness, bone
>density, physical endurance, mental ability, and
>immune defenses
>
>3) Skin wrinkles
>
>4) Osteoporosis
>
>5) Alzheimer’s dementia
>
>6) Senility
>
>7) Obesity
>
>8) Fatigue
>
>9) Muscle and organ atrophy
>
>10) And other age-related conditions, which have been
>reported to improve with HGH replacement therapy.
>
>
>Benefits of using HGH Injection are reported in
>published studies include:
>
>15% average decrease in fat.
>8% average increase in muscle and lean body structures.
>Improved skin texture resulting in a more youthful
>appearance.
>Fewer skin wrinkles.
>Increased bone density, reversal of osteoporosis.
>Faster healing of any type of injury, fracture, or
>wound.
>Greatly enhanced immunity and resistance to infection.
>Enhanced brain function, retention of intellect with
>aging.
>Improvement in Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s syndromes.
>Improved sex drive.
>Improvement in overall physical and mental well-being.
>Improvement in sleep disorders, better quality of
>sleep.
>Improved exercise tolerance.
>Improved mineral balance.
>Improved mood, with less depression and fatigue.
>Improved heart and kidney function.
>
>
>In one study, physicians studied men between the ages
>of 61 and 80 who were overweight. These men did not
>alter their diet, exercise, or smoking habits. When
>they were given HGH, they gained an average of 8.8% in
>lean muscle mass while losing 14% of their body fat.
>They experienced localized increases in bone density
>and their skin became thicker and firmer. The subjects
>of this study reversed these parameters of aging by
>10-20 years!
>
>
>Month-by-Month Improvements:
>
>
>First Month: Improved stamina, better and sounder
>sleep, vivid dreams, feeling more refreshed upon
>awakening, increased energy, more optimistic attitude
>and a better sense of humor.
>
>Second Month: Improved muscle tone, improved nail
>growth, increased strength, weight loss, enhanced
>sexual function, improved skin tone, better digestion,
>and better eyesight, especially night vision.
>
>Third Month: More improved muscle tone, hair
>re-growth, increased sexual desire, less pain,
>improvement in mental processes, faster wound recovery
>and less muscle soreness, reduction in PMS symptoms,
>greater body flexibility, and alleviation of some
>menopausal symptoms
>
>Fourth Month: Heightened and more consistent
>improvements, as listed above.
>
>Fifth Month: Impressive weight loss / inch reduction,
>thickening of skin and greater elasticity, thickening
>of hair with a shiny, health appearance, improvement
>in skin texture/appearance, and reduction of wrinkles.
>
>Sixth Month: Cellulite greatly diminishes, eyesight
>greatly improves, stronger resistance to colds, flu
>and other illnesses, old wounds are healing or have
>healed, grayed hair begins to return to natural color,
>blood pressure normalizes, body is much more
>contoured, emotional stability is improved, some pain
>and soreness disappear, exercise tolerance is
>increased, LDL and triglycerides are reduced, heart
>rate improves, and immune system improves.
>
>
>Questions
>
>What is Human Growth Hormone (HGH)?
>HGH is produced by the pituitary gland in large
>amounts when we are young, but secretion falls off
>sharply as we age. Human Growth Hormone promotes
>tissue repair, cell regeneration in the bones, muscles
>and vital organs, and supports the immune system in
>combating infection and disease. HGH achieves this by
>improving movement of amino acids (the building blocks
>of cells and muscles) across cell membranes. As the
>body’s cells die off, HGH ensures that replacement
>cells are healthy and readily available. HGH Factor
>supplementation supports the body’s ability to
>self-repair and to delay the aging process.
>
>Why haven’t I heard much about HGH before?
>The reason most people have never heard of HGH before
>is because its cost ($1000-$3000 plus per month) and
>its administration (injections by prescription only)
>have limited its exposure to the medical profession,
>the wealthy and celebrities. The real HGH is only
>available at pharmacy only, if you can find HGH at
>local health store such as GNC or other similar
>stores, then they are definitely fake !
>
>Is HGH therapy safe?
>Yes. HGH has been used in the medical community for
>over three decades with success and has over 60 years
>of study. Normal HGH use has not been attributed to a
>single death. Edmond Chein, M.D., and L. Cass Terry,
>Ph.D., tested over 800 individuals over the age of 40
>and reported in their 1995 study that when used
>correctly, HGH had substantial benefits and no side
>effects.
>
>Who should NOT take this product?
>We normally recommend HGH supplementation for people
>in their 30’s because that is the age where normally
>your natural production falls off dramatically. HGH is
>not intended for use by persons under 21 years old,
>pregnant woman, those who have or have had cancer. If
>you fit into any of these categories, we recommend
>reviewing the ingredients with your doctor before
>taking this product.
>
>As intelligent individuals, each one of us must decide
>this for him or herself. But if you’re over 30 and
>experiencing problems that didn’t exist 10 years ago,
>maybe these problems are associated with decreased
>levels of human growth hormone in your blood. By age
>30 that level is about one third of what it used to be
>at age 18. For most people the age of 18 was a time
>when we took our health for granted. But by the time
>we reach 30 we may be overweight, lacking energy, etc.
>
>With decreasing levels of HGH as we age, is it a
>wonder things seem to get worse with time? The
>following table displays the normal level of HGH in
>the body measured in nanograms/milliliter of blood. As
>you can see, there is a dramatic difference between
>that of an 18 year old and anyone older than 30 (1000
>vs.325). It’s no wonder we start going downhill in our
>30’s.
>
>
>AGE NORMAL HGH LEVEL
>
>18 yrs 1000 nanograms/ml
>20 yrs 775 nanograms/ml
>25 yrs 500 nanograms/ml
>30 yrs 375 nanograms/ml
>35 yrs 325 nanograms/ml
>40 yrs 300 nanograms/ml
>85 yrs 225 nanograms/ml
>
>
>
>
>
>
>1. Please identify and describe yourself:
>Name: Ellis Toussier Bigio
>Year of Birth: 1945 Age: 54
>Sex: Male
>Height 1.80 meters, 5'11.5"
>Weight 154 lbs., 70 kilos
>
>2. Why did you want to take HGH?
>In June, 1998 I looked at myself in the mirror, and
>felt
>depressed that I was looking pretty bad... many
>wrinkles, crows
>feet around my eyes, cheeks beginning to sag. I also
>felt I
>was going downhill, in energy, etc. I knew about
>growth hormone
>because I had read Durk Pearson's "Life Extension" and
>read an
>article that appeared in 1992 or early 1993 about
>growth hormone
>in Life Magazine and I had been taking Durk Pearson
>and Sandy
>Shaw's "Be Your Best" which contains 6 grams of
>arginine per
>serving, for three years, 1992 and 1993 and 1994.
>
>3. What changes do you feel after taking HGH for a
>while?
>I felt good immediately, since the first day. I felt
>optimistic, and a
>bit more energetic. I stopped feeling gloomy about the
>economy, I felt more
>like starting new things, like I had when I was
>younger. The first physical
>changes began to be noticeable after about two weeks,
>slightly...
>my face began to look slightly younger, the skin was
>tightening up...
>Then I lost about 1 kilo per month, for 6 months, most
>noticeably
>around my belly. My wrinkles began to disappear, and
>my crows feet were
>completely gone by month 4 or 5... the skin of my
>hands tightened
>up and the dryness in the skin disappeared.
>
>4. What body/mind measurements have changed since you
>started
>taking HGH (e.g. "Tricep diameter increased from 20
>inches
>to 30 inches")?
>I didn't take measurements with a ruler, but I lost 2
>or 3
>inches of waistline, as measured by my pants. My chest
>got a
>line. My biceps grew, but I haven't measured them. I
>am not a
>body builder or an athlete, and it never occurred to
>me to measure
>them. I am still thin, and I like it like this, but
>many persons
>on this board, for example Marty, and John, who have
>come to Mexico,
>have inspired me to do more exercise, which I do, but
>not to become
>very big, just to feel better.
>
>HDL cholesterol before/after: don't know. Total was
>about 220. (I will confirm)
>LDL cholesterol before/after: don't know. Total is
>about 170. (I will confirm.)
>blood pressure before/after: before, about 120/80
>120/70; after, about 100/60 90/60
>
>For how long can you hold your breath?:
>I held my breath for 1 minute and 50 seconds when
>challenged by
>my friends... Since then I have held it for 1 minute
>and 30
>seconds many times, as a demonstration, but I don't
>want to hold
>it for 1 minute and 50 seconds any more because I am
>afraid it isn't
>good for my brain. I swam underwater for about 35
>meters, in a
>swimming pool 25 meters long. To me, the importance of
>this is
>that it indicates my lungs are processing oxygen like
>a young man.
>
>5. What product(s) did/do you use, and for how long
>(e.g. "WonderHGH, for 5 months, starting May 1999")?
>Humatrope, by Eli Lilly, 1 i.u. per day (the
>measurement has
>changed... it used to be 6 i.u.'s per week, same
>amount is now
>about 7 i.u.'s per week.) continuously since June,
>1998. I
>began taking 2 i.u.'s 3 times per week following the
>indications
>of Daniel Rudman's experiment of 1990, then I read
>"Grow Young
>on HGH" by Dr. Ronald Klatz and decided to change to 1
>i.u. 6
>days per week, then 1/2 i.u. twice per day 6 days per
>week,
>then a little less than 1/2 i.u. 14 times per week, in
>the new
>measurement now equivalent to 1 i.u. per day, every
>day. When
>Humatrope ran out of stock for a few weeks, I bought
>Norditropin,
>by Novo Nordisk. I found it is identical in its
>effect, and I
>suppose it is the same potency but I have not proven
>this with
>blood tests. It is slightly more expensive than
>Humatrope, but
>I think it is identical in its result. Recently I took
>2 i.u.'s
>per day for about 1 month, then I dropped to 1.5 i.u.
>per day
>for the past month (only because of the cost.) After
>this
>experience, I think 2 i.u.'s per day is probably a
>very safe
>dose without any danger of side effects.
>
>6. Have you noticed any side effects? If so, what are
>they?
>None bad that I have noticed.
>
>7. Where did you hear about HGH?
>I read about it in Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw's "Life
>Extension" then in an article about it in Life
>Magazine, in
>1992, which mentioned the El Dorado clinic in Mexico.
>I didn't
>know where it was, and never found it, or I might have
>started
>taking rHGH in 1993.
>
>8. Where do you buy your Human Growth Hormone?
>I started to buy it in a pharmacy, and once I knew I
>was going
>to take it for a very long time, I looked for and
>found a
>wholesale supplier in Mexico City (an approved
>distributor of
>Eli Lilly) that would sell to me.
>
>9. How much does it cost you?
>About $180 wholesale price, for Humatrope 15 i.u.'s or
>$178
>wholesale price for Norditropin, 12 i.u.'s. List price
>of
>Humatrope is about $180 dollars for 15 i.u.'s. (exact
>cost in
>dollars depends on peso/dollar parity)
>
>10. Are you under a doctor's supervision.
>Now I am. At first I was not.
>
>11. What do you see as the risks of HGH?
>None. To me it is only good, nothing bad, and I have
>never read
>any report by anybody that has had any bad side
>effects taking
>1 i.u. or 2 i.u.'s per day. I have read of body
>builders taking
>up to 20 i.u.'s per day, and getting acromegaly, but
>that is
>crazy, in my opinion. Trooper, who corresponded with
>us at the
>beginning of this board, was taking 15 i.u.'s every
>other day,
>prescribed to him by his doctor, and was having
>terrible pains, in his
>words, but very good in every other way for his immune
>system and
>his physical appearance. As soon as he mentioned how
>much he was taking,
>Jay Caplan and I jumped! After receiving our opinion,
>he cut down
>the dose to about 5 i.u.'s per day, and the pains
>disappeared. We have
>not heard from Trooper in many months, so I cannot
>tell you how
>he has been.
>
>12. Has HGH met your expectations or not? Explain.
>It has made me feel much better, even though I was not
>sick to begin
>with. I have more energy, I think more positive, like
>when I was young... I look better, which is probably a
>sign of
>good health and... I like to look better and younger.
>
>13. What was your baseline IGF-1 measurement before
>HGH
>treatment?
>I never measured my baseline IGF-1, because I started
>without being
>under the supervision of a doctor. I do not recommend
>what I did
>as a good example to follow... but it was not
>dangerous, per se, not
>to know my baseline figure, since there is probably no
>baseline figure
>that would convince me not to take rHGH, at age 52,
>(I knew I was standing on the edge of a cliff. I knew
>that what
>was in store for me was a rather rapid physical
>decline, like my
>father and my grandfather and my great-grandfather,
>before me.)
>Dr. Klatz's book, chapter 3 (GH Therapy in 202 Adults)
>page 34,
>Dr. Chein and Terry report the average IGF-1 baseline
>level of 42
>adults was 238.8, and increased to 384.5 after
>starting rHGH
>replacement therapy, but the book doesn't clarify what
>was the
>dose they received, nor does it clarify what was the
>average age
>of this group of persons.
>
>14. What is your baseline IGF-1 measurement now?
>My first IGF-1 result (taken at the insistence of my
>doctor) was
>360 ng/ml about 5 weeks after I had started. After I
>got this
>result, and after I had corresponded with Dr. James
>Hughes on
>some board, I decided to try to get my level up to
>IGF-1 = 500 ng/ml
>so I increased the dose to 1.5 i.u.'s per day (with my
>doctor's
>approval). Instead of going UP, my result went DOWN to
>270 ng/ml!!!
>I was very disappointed with this result. I wrote to
>Lazarus
>Long/Howard Turney who told me that IGF-1 results are
>not very
>reliable, and that I should continue if I am feeling
>well and
>getting results. I have not taken any more tests since
>then,
>but I will take another one soon.
>
>15. When and how much HGH do you take? Describe your
>treatment strategy?
>Currently I am taking 1.5 i.u. per day, one dose in
>the morning,
>plus 3.4 grams of l-glutamine one dose in the morning
>(separately from the rHGH, and on an empty stomach) or
>at
>night. I also am taking EDTA Chelation therapy to
>reduce levels
>of toxic metals from my body, according to the
>protocol of
>Dr. Elmer Cranton, administered here in Mexico City by
>my
>doctor. I also take a small amount of Deprenyl
>(selegiline) and
>Piracetam to help keep my brain from losing neurons,
>and so that it
>gets more oxygen and nutrients, which might also be
>the cause of loss
>of neurons. My complete regimen includes excellent
>nutrition, a lot
>of vitamins, and exercise.
>
>16. Do you replace any other hormones? Which?
>I take melatonin and DHEA. I do not replace
>testosterone, because I tested high, and I do not
>replace thyroid, because I am thin, and I suppose I
>have a good level. I have also taken pregnenolone, and
>recently I started taking androstenedione with
>tribulus, (and saw palmetto.)
>
>17. Any advice for a person under 40 wanting to take
>HGH?
>If you take more than 1 i.u. per day, you should
>monitor your
>results. Even if IGF-1 tests are not very accurate, if
>you are
>taking a dose higher than 1 i.u. you must take a blood
>test to
>be certain you are not in the vicinity of 1000 ng/ml.
>I agree
>with Dr. James Hughes's recommendation that IGF-1
>between 350
>and 500 is a good level to aim for, and if you are
>very young
>and also an athlete maybe you are o.k. with a result
>of 750
>ng/ml. After this level, you risk getting the side
>effects, of
>which the worst are carpal tunnel syndrome and the
>absolute worse,
>acromegaly (Gigantism, or Giantism.)
>
>18. Any advice for a person over 40 wanting to take
>HGH?
>Run... don't walk... to the nearest anti-aging doctor,
>get a
>prescription, and start taking rHGH as soon as you
>can! If you
>cannot afford it, or if you are afraid of possible
>side effects,
>of if you are afraid of the injection, or you can't
>get a
>prescription, then start taking amino acids to help
>release
>some growth hormone from your own pituitary. This is
>probably
>less effective than taking rHGH by sub-cutaneous
>injection, but
>better than doing nothing. It is easier to keep your
>body
>repaired than to repair it after the damage has been
>done.
>I have reversed all of the signs of aging in my body
>to some
>degree, but the one that I have reversed the least is
>my
>apparent age... my face... I look maybe 45 years old,
>although I feel like when I was 25 or 30. The skin on
>my face
>looks better, and tighter, not as dry, with fewer
>wrinkles...
>but the muscles that started to droop on my cheeks
>will
>probably never go back to their place, without plastic
>surgery,
>which I am not going to have done anytime soon...
>On the other hand, I am glad I started to take action
>at age 52,
>and that I didn't wait until age 62, or 72. Looking
>like I am 45
>is better than looking my age, 54, so I am pleased and
>very
>grateful for this. - Ellis Toussier, Sept. 1999


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