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Date Posted: 21:38:07 03/30/03 Sun
Author: 子堅
Subject: 病魔不及心魔險!
In reply to: Keith's message & Brenda's response 's message, "SARS" on 19:41:25 03/30/03 Sun

Hi, Brenda,

多謝你的回應,不過不好意思,我的電郵其實與男子漢無大關係,這個七仔只不過是在借題發揮,說的是香港男男女女現時的心魔,可能七仔這種迂迴曲折的寫法,你不大習慣,對不起,請再細心再看......

子堅

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[> 病魔不及心魔險! -- Simon HO, 21:41:11 03/30/03 Sun

Keith,


I feel uncomfortable after knowing your attitude towards this disease. It is not a small crisis:


1) There is no effective medical way to treat the disease. Patient needs to suffer fever and hard of breathing.. It is a painful experience at the body level. One treatment is to inject vaccine extracted from recovered patient- But there will be a risk of taking other unknown illness from the original patients. More terrible, there is no enough this kind of vaccine as we only have limited no. of recovered patient. I know a father is dying at the hospitial (leaving infected wife and small children) because the lack of vaccine available.


2) There is high probability of death if the defective patient is not treated at the early stage.
3) It is highly contagious. See what happen at Amoy Garden.
4) ** There is a terrible damage to patient's psychology - The patient needs to stay alone at ICU - no contact with family members are allowed for 3 to 4 weeks. Suppose a little child (infant to 8 yrs) needs to face the death disease alone at ICU with the physical pain and without any connection with parents for a month, there will be serious psychological damage to his/her personality after his growth.


In family therapy, we call this IORM- Interrupted Out-Reaching Movement towards parent for person with trauma at child stage. There is hidden restless emotion at the person facing future stress.


5) Even after fully recovery, the lung's function is weak in future.


I hope I am not producing terror to you. I think our media is not producing the terror. We are exposing to death at this moment. If we cannot control the spreading , there will be not enough spaces at ICU, not enough doctors and nurses taking care of infected patients, there will be more dying of patients- they maybe the people we know.


We should be taking health precautions not just because for our own but for also the benefits of the people around us. I know some doctors ( working in hospitals and private clinic) chose to sleep away from home to avoid spreading the disease to their family members- avoid hugging wife, kids...


I will welcome if you will be forwarding my email to other members for a discussion as I may not be correct in all my viewpoints.


Simon HO

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[> [> 病魔不及心魔險! -- Keith, 21:51:02 03/30/03 Sun

Hi, Simon, and all the others on the forum,

I would like to say a few words in response to Simon’s message below…..

>Keith,
>
>I feel uncomfortable after knowing your attitude towards this disease. It is not a small crisis:

Me too, it is my uncomfortable feeling towards the media and the collective paranoid that drive me to write about the “crisis” ….

>1) There is no effective medical way to treat the disease …
>2) There is high probability of death if the defective patient is not treated at the early stage.
>3) It is highly contagious. ……
>4) ** There is a terrible damage to patient's psychology …...
>5) Even after fully recovery, the xxx’s function is weak in future. …

All you have said about the disease is true……. As usual you are very precise about the fact…. But I am afraid you are not so on giving the disease its perspective it deserved…..

What you said about the SARS could be the description of so many diseases in the world that how can you single out just this one and let yourself be overwhelmed by its DARK IMAGE.

Look once again at the above FACTS that you mentioned, they are absolutely no different from hundreds of different diseases….

Even the common flu is incurable, the doctors are helpless towards so many diseases that if we have to be scared so for each of them, we would be left with no time to live our life.

>I hope I am not producing terror to you. I think our media is not producing the terror.
>We are exposing to death at this moment. If we cannot control the spreading ,
>there will be not enough spaces at ICU, not enough doctors and nurses taking care of infected patients,
>there will be more dying of patients- they maybe the people we know.

NO, you won’t produce any terror to me, I believe that “The one thing to fear is fear itself.”

And you think I am being so heartless because the dead so far are not someone that I know of! Well, believe whatever you want, it doesn’t matter…

To me, what matter most is that we people in HK are no longer the same courageous kind like our parents and grandparents….

The Cholera epidemic 40 years ago is a much bigger “crisis” but our parents faced it with courage and braveness that we should be ashamed of.,…

>We should be taking health precautions not just because for our own
>but for also the benefits of the people around us. I know some doctors
>( working in hospitals and private clinic) chose to sleep away from home
>to avoid spreading the disease to their family members- avoid hugging
>wife, kids...

Have I mentioned that no precautions should be made, esp. for those who are facing the diseases day in and day out ??

No, I don’t think I ever said that. It is the fear and paranoid that I am talking about.

>I will welcome if you will be forwarding my email to other members
>for a discussion as I may not be correct in all my viewpoints.

Oh, Simon, rest assured that your opinion was circulated amongst all fellow members…. Chee Seung has already made that happened.

Shalom
Keith

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