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Date Posted: Monday, March 26, 08:33:13pm
Author: Lij
Author Host/IP: adsl-99-186-236-116.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net / 99.186.236.116
Subject: Don't need a house, buildings nor well if it rains.....
In reply to: AS 's message, "It's dirt farming at it's worst." on Monday, March 26, 10:38:35am

....... the soil is what matters. Is a section up there a square mile like it is here? I guess it is about so, see:

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/eng9919

So about 480 acres (190 ha.) and maybe 400 tillable acres. I'm guessing at a price per acre up there (soil type, tillable acres, and location - all adding up to productivity - are all factors); but I'd say the farm might be worth at least $750,000. Now down here 480 acres wouldn't go for less than $1,500,000 - mind you that is a LOW-BALL price. Some land has been going for as much as twice that and in Iowa prices have been above $10,000 per acre. That would drive the price of 480 acres up to $5,000,000 OR MORE.

So don't go discounting the old family farm so quick. How far north of the border is it?

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[> [> [> [> [> [> About 380 kms or so. -- AS, Monday, March 26, 09:54:47pm (d207-216-49-87.bchsia.telus.net/207.216.49.87)

Don't get me wrong, I am sure the farmland is worth something. However the fact that it's completely bereft of water (we trucked it in by the barrel, there is no cistern for storage) means that anyone who has been growing there has been living elsewhere or in a trailer during harvest. I guess a landlord interested in leasing it out may do quite well, depending on how things go with the season-I know it's only because my uncle has a steady income from his Eaton's pension that he can afford to hold onto it so far. I REALLY wish he would sell it now and put some money away for himself then give my mom some, she was born and raised there too but I expect my uncle was left everything by his parents. No-one in my generation except my crazy sister (who helps out my uncle a lot, give her credit for that) needs or expects any money from the sale of the farm, you cannot tell my uncle what to do though and I expect he will hold onto it as long as he possibly can, for sentimental reasons if no other.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Ok... so that's about the latitude of Saskatoon then.... -- Lij, Monday, March 26, 10:28:50pm (adsl-99-186-236-116.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net/99.186.236.116)

I know they grow wheat that far north, but yeah, that's on the furthest north limit. Though I have seen some corn growing up at that latitude in pictures on Google Earth.

Was that in Saskatchewan or Manitoba? Seems I remember you saying the farm was in Manitoba. So would that be like near Thunder Hill or Swan River?

Yeah, I was thinking of something in the latitude of Regina/Trans-Canadian Hwy. or south.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> It's in Saskatchewan. Southeast of Saskatoon. -- AS, Monday, March 26, 10:41:06pm (d207-216-49-87.bchsia.telus.net/207.216.49.87)

We used to day-trip there when I was in my teens to do yard maintenance and garden, back when the place was still being run from a distance by my uncle. We grew almost all our potatoes and most of our root veggies there, the ones that could survive being looked after every couple of weeks that is.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Ok... I think I've been mixing in memories of a friend from Texas A&M.... -- Lij, Monday, March 26, 10:46:06pm (adsl-99-186-236-116.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net/99.186.236.116)

....we were both in the geology department and her family was from a farm in Manitoba. near one of the larger lakes.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> When we weren't hunting on our land, we did hunt at the nearby lakes. -- AS, Monday, March 26, 10:49:18pm (d207-216-49-87.bchsia.telus.net/207.216.49.87)

Lake hunting is a bit more problematic if you don't have a boat or a dog that retrieves though....lol.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Looking at Google Earth, that appears to be pothole country. -- Lij, Monday, March 26, 10:52:08pm (adsl-99-186-236-116.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net/99.186.236.116)

Little lakes that formed when chunks of ice melted and formed pothole lakes.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> We call it "land of straight lines". -- AS, Monday, March 26, 11:00:34pm (d207-216-49-87.bchsia.telus.net/207.216.49.87)

Grid roads-moving to the coast, where the only time you can see for a comparable distance is usually over a large body of water, was quite the culture shock. We used to joke that to drive to the farm from Saskatoon, you drove east for so long, make a right turn, almost immediately make a left and the next full stop was the town the farm is near. Keeping awake at night was a real pain in the ass, they finally got smart and put rumble strips in where highway intersections are to make sure people didn't just drive into a ditch on the other side.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> LOL.... I think I'll stay south unless global warming becomes a real issue... -- Lij, Monday, March 26, 11:13:24pm (adsl-99-186-236-116.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net/99.186.236.116)

Much the same down here except for my county because it is one of the oldest. Before they surveyed the Northwest Territory (Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota), they handed out 400 acre donations to the French settlers at Vincennes for supporting George Rogers Clark during the Revolutionary War against the British who had forts at Vincennes and other colonial towns. Those donations were laid out not on N-S & E-W lines like the township and range sections, but on NW-SE & NE-SW lines. Makes the county rather unique. But with other colonials who came to the area from the original 13 after the war and staked out claims on "lots" which were generally smaller pieces of land, the county is a real mish-mash of land-lines.

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