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Date Posted: Tuesday, January 17, 12:22:52am
Author: AS
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 173.180.97.132
Subject: Now I am wondering.
In reply to: AS 's message, "Watching it again tonight, this time with Don." on Monday, January 16, 09:23:16pm

Did Mycroft set up Jim? I wonder if the Holmes brothers realised there was no easy way to take down the "spider" and used his one weakness (his love/hate relationship with Sherlock) to get him to make the mistake of forcing Sherlock to the precipice??

Watching it a second time, I have to wonder whether Mycroft was manipulating John towards that final ending every bit as much as his brother was. After all, we are talking about the King of Criminals; it was going to take extraordinary measures involving both friends and enemies to take him down. Since apparently they felt that just locking him up and throwing away the key would not keep Moriarity from his empire, forcing his hand when he thought he'd won could have meant Mycroft had to get his hands dirty...the more I think about it, the more sense it makes to me. Mycroft is about as far from a blabbermouth as you can get!

On the other hand, Sally and Anderson (the lemmings!) deserve to be run out of town on a rail.

As much as everyone feels sorry for John, it's fascinating to see how much being with Sherlock has completely turned his life around. It may take a while for him to forgive Sherlock once the truth comes out but he will, he will.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Oh yes! -- Chani, Tuesday, January 17, 06:05:10am (81-65-157-129.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.157.129)

Actually, I'm pretty sure that Mycroft did manipulate John throughout the episode --hence his "I'm sorry", just like Sherlock manipulated his friend and apologised on the phone too( the Holmes brothers are much more alike than they think!)--, and is possibly the bigger schemer of all...the final scene in the gentlemen's club wasn't easy to read, but I read it as someone that considered the job finally done.

I can't believe that eh was fooled by Moriarty and made a mistake when talking about Sherlock's life. You're right, he's the kind of man who would take extraordinary measures to get the "king of criminals", including "helping" Moriarty to destroy the Sherlock's fame.

I am not saying that Sherlock and Mycroft necessarily worked together on this, but that Mycroft manipulated everybody and counted on his little brother's skills to eventually turn the tables on Moriarty and escape one way or another.


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