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Date Posted: 09:56:16 09/21/11 Wed
Author: Scout Dog Chipper
Subject: Re: Did you know Christopher (Kit) Beavers, 4th Inf Div?
In reply to: Jerry Loftis 's message, "Did you know Christopher (Kit) Beavers, 4th Inf Div?" on 07:13:08 08/10/11 Wed

If you were a Marine, your Chronological Page lists all units from the day you arrived to the day you transferred. If you were a Marine SNCO, your Fitness Reports describe what your duties were during that reporting time. Operation Ranch Hand is the Agent Orange program that tried to do good and instead screwed us all to early death and passed that sentence on to some of our children. You never listed a branch and each service has different chronological or administrative pages for you to research.

No one is going to help you because you have to help yourself. If your state has veteran services see if they can help you. I have the State of Louisiana Veterans administration whose job is to stick it to the fed boys who think it's their job to stick it to you. The DAV helps and while at it, join them if you're disabled in any military way.

A DD 214 is a quick description of schools, awards and manner of discharge. It's a "I was there" document not the all inclusive documents located in your SRB (service record book). Did you receive any write ups, awards or Letters of Appreciation? Those are called empherical evidence of your service in any location, any service or any combat environment. The VA is overwhelmed with phonies, liars, embellishers and bullshit artists and it's hard to tell the players from the action heroes. Time to get a copy of your military files. There was a fire there, at one location in Kansas (I think Kansas) in the 70s that burned many a military record. So when a vet shows up at the VA and claims this and that, it's hard to know the sincere ones from the bullshitters. I retired from the military and have a complete, intact record of every place, every time frame and every fitness report. You have to find yours.

In the Marines, we have a unit record of what happened on a specific month and that's called a Chronological Record. I have one for every month I was in Vietnam and every unit I walked point for. What is it? Emperical evidence of what happened and to whom it happened to. Don't know about the other services and they might call them After Action Reports but all those AARs are public or available through your unit's administrative section.

I have one BS neighbor that tells me he was in Vietnam and did a lot of "secret missions" that never made in on his record book. He has no photos, he has no names, he has no dates he can't describe what he did, where he did it and with whom. The guy is a flat out liar. His life is a lie and some VA reps can see through this but that doesn't stop him from claiming glory he never earned. He wastes time for those that need that time with a vet counselor. That's why you have to have some items that will say I was there and only you can remember what that was.

I've not heard of the Operation Ranch Hand being in Vietnam before 1965. That might be another problem with finding your information; your facts and ducks have to be in line. I say it again, only you can help yourself. Good luck, look for photos, Letters of Appreciation, your ribbon bar information on your DD 214, reunions or ask the VA to look up a friends name who could help you. I was just recently contacted with a guy I have not heard of in years and he, too, was missing information I was able to fill in. Good Luck.

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