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Date Posted: 13:08:02 08/06/06 Sun
Author: AngelVSAngelus
Subject: Mutant Enemy and Betrayal

Season 7 of Buffy was the one year that I hadn't viewed since it was aired on television. Until recently I hadn't been able to afford the DVD set to finally finish the collection, and a friend of mine who hadn't seen the show but knew its place in my pop-psyche wanted to view the whole thing with me. Finally, we've arrived at Buffy season 7, and I've been viewing all of that show and Angel in its entirety simultaneously.
I've noticed a theme or an element of ambience that I enjoy that I haven't seen extensively discussed. Maybe I missed it. But both shows, especially in their later hours, involved betrayal, not just on the part of villainous characters, but our heroes, the protagonists turning against each other, doing horrible things.
I'm running on exactly two hours of sleep and four shots of espresso, so this isn't a well thought out essay, just a request that someone else try and help me articulate this:

Buffy is about growing up and the pain of adolescence, Angel mispent youth and rectifying that as an active moral agent in your adult life. As Buffy progresses and the youthful characters become adults, they get "tainted" like the characters of Angel start off. Dialogue is had by characters in both shows about how their lives as heroes and trying to do the right thing involves being willing to also take each other out.
At the end of "That Old Gang of Mine" Angel tells Gunn that he'll have proved he can trust him when the day comes that he'd have to kill him and he does, and he makes remarks to that effect alot.
In "Selfless" Anya jokes about how there's no friends that Buffy has left that she hasn't tried to kill.
It seems like an important element, but my brain is too fried by sleep deprivation and the heat outside to sculpt it into a well formed thought. Help me out here.

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