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Date Posted: 07:31:40 01/25/06 Wed
Author: MichaelSD
Subject: Re: the Wolf, the Ram and the Hart
In reply to: David 's message, "the Wolf, the Ram and the Hart" on 16:09:11 01/15/06 Sun

Gods: or "The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly...

Some random God-like thoughts of mine. My name "Michael" means "one who is like god" in Hebrew.

Q: The Wolf, Ram, & Hart are not equated with the Senior Partners, right? Early references to Sr.Partners were off the mark, I think. (Lindsey's a1.01 phone call, Lilah calling "Mr. Sulvolte". I never got the one that appeared & Angel had a Glove & a Ring, and tossed out a skyscraper, etc.

There seems to be a "triumphrate" theme also. I thought the Wolf, Ram, & Hart were Gods (perhaps "HellGOds" in the 'Verse speaks). Remember Pylea where they were also.

The Powers That Be were never defined. The Oracles only spoke for the powers, right? (Should have killed The Loa instead, perhaps Loa eaten by a passing-by flying-dragon.)

But there others who spoke for the powers... Doyle claimed to. The Valet for the Tests of Life? Seems to me the PtB were the "Good" to oppose the "Bad".

One Biblical power that could have been used: Arch-Angel Michael, who was General for the Army of the Lord of Hosts (flaming sword & all). Another 'triumphrate" here in the Bible: 3 arch-angels, Michael, Gabriel, & Lucifer.

Glorificus was part of a three-god team that ruled several dimensions (refer to General Gregor, Knights of Byz speach to Buffy & Dawn). An interesting plot twist might have been: Illyria being one of the other two Gods.

Btw: I always thought the General should have survived Glory's exit and he aids the Slayer and is there for "The Gift". Later, the Knights O.B. having nothing to do now, watch the Slayer and foresee her need in Season 7. (Remember if 100 is required, we send 100). I picture a scene with 10000 KoB pulling their swords at once yelling "Slaaay-er". Buffy getting a real army...

Oh yeah, these guys refered to "their god", the Christian God more than once.

And what about Holtz? (who back in the day, that Rome scene they seemed like early watcher types). Maybe a little Van Helsing (Hugh Jackson movie's VH), but that also was Christian God centered to fight evil.

Angel had the Beast of the Apolocypse of the Book of Revelations (sort of, didn't rise out of the sea, and he had that whole rock for a brain thing. nevermind)

Oh, the Immortal.
Glory's god #3? Whistler in another guise?
Jasmine. If she was a PtB, then they can become bad? Can Bad hell-gods and upper-level demons be good? D'Hoffyrin could have brought Tara. But nobody thought to ask him...

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  • Re: the Wolf, the Ram and the Hart -- gumbo, 20:53:18 02/15/06 Wed
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