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Date Posted: Wed, Sep 12, 12:18:17am CST
Author: Jason Abbott
Author Host/IP: NoHost / 207.41.43.146
Subject: Re: Poll #6
In reply to: Nick Steward 's message, "Re: Poll #6" on Tue, Sep 11, 08:10:43pm CST

>>>>>>Yeah I'll sure call you sometime, Mike. I'd like
>to
>>>>>>pick your brain and see if some of my ideas will
>>>>>work.
>>>>>> I'm a little disappointed that you're the only
>>one
>>>>>>apparently breeding this way but hey, one is
>better
>>>>>>than none,I guess.
>>>>>> I'm hoping to get a good line of cooners going
>>>down
>>>>>>this way one day. Man, you wouldn't believe some
>of
>>>>>>the hap-hazzard breeding going on around my area.
>I
>>>>>>went hunting with a guy the other night who had a
>>>>>>mean, male Blue dog and a nice little young Blue
>>gyp
>>>>>>Before the night was over we noticed she was
>coming
>>>>in
>>>>>>season. After he had admitted the dog was too mean
>>>to
>>>>>>hunt with company, he said he couldn't wait to get
>>>>her
>>>>>>bred to old "Tree Fighter". Go figure. I guess
>some
>>>>>>folks just want puppies.
>>>>>Well the dogs I am breeding are real tight. These
>>>dogs
>>>>>are real heavy in Tig, and a whole bunch of
>>>Hobo-Sheba
>>>>>II breeding, with Hobo being a son of Tig. These
>>dogs
>>>>>have some real heavy line breeding in them and you
>>>can
>>>>>see a lot of the same characteristics in these dogs
>>>>>and especially in the pups. Have heard alot about
>>the
>>>>>John Clark bred dogs and at some point I might like
>>>to
>>>>>try one and if it makes a dog and has traits that I
>>>>>like I would consider trying a cross on some of my
>>>>>dogs. I would have absolutely no problem breeding a
>>>>>half brother and half sister together and if I was
>>so
>>>>>inclined I would breed full brother and sister. I
>>>>>believe if you are line and inbreeding ,line
>>breeding
>>>>>being a form of inbreeding, and you start
>>outcrossing
>>>>>haphazardly you are just asking for problems. I am
>>no
>>>>>expert in any fashion on breeding dogs, but like
>>what
>>>>>I have now.
>>>>Hey Nick, It sounds like your dogs have alot of the
>>>>same blood in them as mine but i think your opening
>a
>>>>whole new can of worms when you talk about breeding
>>to
>>>>a clark dog, not that their not good dogs but you
>>>>would be blending totally diff. genes and i think
>>that
>>>>it would be a grab bag as far as the % rate of pups
>>>>turning out to make the kind of dogs that your used
>>to
>>>>now, thats whats wrong with the hounds and as far as
>>>>that goes any leps. that have a conglomeration of
>>>>genes in them, ya just dont know what to expect out
>>of
>>>>a litter, just my thoughts. have a good one guys,
>>>>mike
>>>Well Mike you are right there about crossing in a
>>>whole differant line, never know what you would get,
>>>but you never know, was just a thought that I have
>>>been thinking about. Take care.
>>Hey Nick, Are ya hunting this weekend? Im coming up
>>north on fri. to set up camp and plan on staying for 4
>>or 5 days, if so where are ya going, maybe we can get
>>together for a hunt, just a thought. mike
>Yep, I am planning on going. We will probably be
>hunting around the Burney Mt. area, will know more
>tomorrow. If everything works out I sure would like to
>get together for a hunt. My dogs will probably get out
>run as bow season just got over and we couldnt have
>the dogs out, but I have been roading them since
>Sunday night so at least they will be lossened up a
>little. Where abouts are you thinking about hunting?
>
>
>My Dagwood dog is linebred really heavy and he has a brother sister cross in his pedigree.Dagwood is out of Hobo3 and C.V.Ellie.Hobo3 is out of brother sister cross being Hobo2 and C.V.Cleo3. C.V.Ellie is out of Auble's Brownie and Fancy.When you look back three generations on Dagwood you see Hobo twice on the sires side.On the Dams side is C.V.T.Peleazer.Now Hobo is out of T.Peleazer and T.Peleazer is out of Dutchman Creek Sam.Sam was from half brother sister cross.So Dagwood is linebred just about heavy as you can get.Pretty much all Sam.So this means he carry's a lot of the old blood and they done a good job breeding this way because Dagwoods been a really nice dog.Jason

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