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Date Posted: Wed, Sep 12, 06:22:27pm CST
Author: lepcur
Author Host/IP: 63-170-119-13.dsl.volcano.net / 63.170.119.13
Subject: Re: Poll #6
In reply to: Jason Abbott 's message, "Re: Poll #6" on Wed, Sep 12, 12:18:17am CST

>>>>>>>Yeah I'll sure call you sometime, Mike. I'd like
>>to
>>>>>>>pick your brain and see if some of my ideas will
>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>> I'm a little disappointed that you're the only
>>>one
>>>>>>>apparently breeding this way but hey, one is
>>better
>>>>>>>than none,I guess.
>>>>>>> I'm hoping to get a good line of cooners going
>>>>down
>>>>>>>this way one day. Man, you wouldn't believe some
>>of
>>>>>>>the hap-hazzard breeding going on around my area.
>>I
>>>>>>>went hunting with a guy the other night who had a
>>>>>>>mean, male Blue dog and a nice little young Blue
>>>gyp
>>>>>>>Before the night was over we noticed she was
>>coming
>>>>>in
>>>>>>>season. After he had admitted the dog was too
>mean
>>>>to
>>>>>>>hunt with company, he said he couldn't wait to
>get
>>>>>her
>>>>>>>bred to old "Tree Fighter". Go figure. I guess
>>some
>>>>>>>folks just want puppies.
>>>>>>Well the dogs I am breeding are real tight. These
>>>>dogs
>>>>>>are real heavy in Tig, and a whole bunch of
>>>>Hobo-Sheba
>>>>>>II breeding, with Hobo being a son of Tig. These
>>>dogs
>>>>>>have some real heavy line breeding in them and you
>>>>can
>>>>>>see a lot of the same characteristics in these
>dogs
>>>>>>and especially in the pups. Have heard alot about
>>>the
>>>>>>John Clark bred dogs and at some point I might
>like
>>>>to
>>>>>>try one and if it makes a dog and has traits that
>I
>>>>>>like I would consider trying a cross on some of my
>>>>>>dogs. I would have absolutely no problem breeding
>a
>>>>>>half brother and half sister together and if I was
>>>so
>>>>>>inclined I would breed full brother and sister. I
>>>>>>believe if you are line and inbreeding ,line
>>>breeding
>>>>>>being a form of inbreeding, and you start
>>>outcrossing
>>>>>>haphazardly you are just asking for problems. I am
>>>no
>>>>>>expert in any fashion on breeding dogs, but like
>>>what
>>>>>>I have now.
>>>>>Hey Nick, It sounds like your dogs have alot of the
>>>>>same blood in them as mine but i think your opening
>>a
>>>>>whole new can of worms when you talk about breeding
>>>to
>>>>>a clark dog, not that their not good dogs but you
>>>>>would be blending totally diff. genes and i think
>>>that
>>>>>it would be a grab bag as far as the % rate of pups
>>>>>turning out to make the kind of dogs that your used
>>>to
>>>>>now, thats whats wrong with the hounds and as far
>as
>>>>>that goes any leps. that have a conglomeration of
>>>>>genes in them, ya just dont know what to expect out
>>>of
>>>>>a litter, just my thoughts. have a good one guys,
>
>>>>>mike
>>>>Well Mike you are right there about crossing in a
>>>>whole differant line, never know what you would get,
>>>>but you never know, was just a thought that I have
>>>>been thinking about. Take care.
>>>Hey Nick, Are ya hunting this weekend? Im coming up
>>>north on fri. to set up camp and plan on staying for
>4
>>>or 5 days, if so where are ya going, maybe we can get
>>>together for a hunt, just a thought. mike
>>Yep, I am planning on going. We will probably be
>>hunting around the Burney Mt. area, will know more
>>tomorrow. If everything works out I sure would like to
>>get together for a hunt. My dogs will probably get out
>>run as bow season just got over and we couldnt have
>>the dogs out, but I have been roading them since
>>Sunday night so at least they will be lossened up a
>>little. Where abouts are you thinking about hunting?
>>
>>
>>My Dagwood dog is linebred really heavy and he has a
>brother sister cross in his pedigree.Dagwood is out of
>Hobo3 and C.V.Ellie.Hobo3 is out of brother sister
>cross being Hobo2 and C.V.Cleo3. C.V.Ellie is out of
>Auble's Brownie and Fancy.When you look back three
>generations on Dagwood you see Hobo twice on the sires
>side.On the Dams side is C.V.T.Peleazer.Now Hobo is
>out of T.Peleazer and T.Peleazer is out of Dutchman
>Creek Sam.Sam was from half brother sister cross.So
>Dagwood is linebred just about heavy as you can
>get.Pretty much all Sam.So this means he carry's a lot
>of the old blood and they done a good job breeding
>this way because Dagwoods been a really nice dog.Jason
Hey Nick, Ill be hunting west of 5 about 50 mi. on hwy. 36 over by wildwood, last yr. i hunted about 10 mi. east of there and caught a bear each day but theres a little brush over there and all the bear head for the brush once the dogs get them jumped, i think ill be away from the brush over there. Ive got a shooter this weekend so im headed for the timber. When ya get back give us a report and ill do the same, good luck. mike

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