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Date Posted: Wed, Sep 12, 06:56:21pm CST
Author: Rex
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Subject: Re: line bred from the get go!
In reply to: Mikerich4 's message, "Re: line bred from the get go!" on Wed, Sep 12, 02:02:50pm CST

>>> to expand on what earlier posted; Sam's Double
>>>grandmother was mate to Ranger, my Doe Valley Queen
>>>was mate to Noah Leggetts Blondie, both out of CV
>>>Jezebel sired Treiver. Sam was double grandson
>>>ofJefferson Elrod, mate to Jezebel and Nimrod.Noah
>>>Leggett brought "Big John" back from Mo. in 72 and
>>>this was added in, which was cousin to Richard's
>>>Nugget.So all these dogs were close bred , way back T
>>>Byrd's Donna and Vernon Leggetts Rusty were both
>mates
>>>to Sam. Tommy Bred Donna to Tigger and I got Cricket,
>>>sire ot Tiffany. Tigger and Tiffany were close
>>>related. Trudy was intense Nimrod bred, used her as
>>>out cross as she was not related in three gen. All
>>>these dogs are "Kissin Couzins"!
>>> Midwest dogs bred same way, Little Lep, Hammer ,
>>>Shiner, all over papers.
>>> Mike Craword said a man ask him which was best,
>>>Eastern or Midwest. Mike told him "cross them, and
>get
>>>dogs better than either!" That's what we did by late
>>>80's, ten more line breeding. While a few new genes
>>>have came in, this breed is still mostly based on
>>>about two dozen dogs, that were linebred. If you
>have
>>>two real good dogs , half mates or closer; and alike
>>>in most traits BREED THEM!! I am not familiar with
>>>many of todays dogs but likely would see many of
>their
>>>ancestors in them, in their ability. Knowing the
>>>pedigree helps, buy know the dogs in the pedigree
>>>helps more.
>>> May this breed get better and better, is my sincere
>>>hopes. Rex
>>
>>
>>
>>Rex, I know the other two guys that responded are
>>breeding for bear dogs. Just wondering what kind of
>>game your Leopards are bred for....Mike Richardson
>
>
>Sorry Jason, didn't mean to disregard you there on
>your breeding but I think I know primarily what you
>are breeding for....Mike
Mike, I mainly hunted coon, but also bear hunted, but for many years supplied lots of bear hunters.I would guess about all bear bred Leopards are heavy line bred top and bottom on my dogs. In addition to Sam, I owned CV Dolly, she's burried here. owned her sister. and two of Tig's mates.Many bear dogs also go back to DC Goldie and CV Jezebel II which I raised from DC Cleo,who was grandaughter of Ranger x Doe Valley Queen.Queen was a top bear dog and repoduced many good bear dogs. Fact is. tis strain was more bear bred than coon bred way back in 60s. I have only raised a couple litters in last ten years but many of those are top bear dogs and still reproducing, better each generation. I only have two Leps now, both granpups of Sam. most of their littermates are bear dogs. However, the same breeding principles apply to hunting any game. remember, knowing the pedigree helps, but knowing the dogs, for many generations, helps more. I grew up hunting with Plott breeders, Allisons, bear hunters, and they line bred close, also.Big advantages in line breeding, if you plan to breed long term. Rex

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