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Date Posted: Wed, May 30, 03:58:59am CST
Author: Dan N
Author Host/IP: h69-21-212-253.69-21.unk.tds.net / 69.21.212.253
Subject: Re: Poll #1
In reply to: Dan McDonough 's message, "Re: Poll #1" on Tue, May 29, 07:22:07pm CST

>>>>>I will preface this question with a quote from the
>>>>>yearbook. Under "Breeding Information" the first
>>>>>paragraph reads: "The breeding of the American
>>>>>Leopard Cur presents a greater challenge than any
>>>>>animal alive. The reason the American Leopard Cur
>>>>>breed is of the quality it is today is because old
>>>>>time breeders discovered that to try to produce a
>>>>>ridgid color standard is to destroy ability, which
>>>>>should be the prime concern of the breeder and
>>buyer,


>>>>>not looks."
>>>>>
>>>>> With that said, my question to you is:
>>>>>
>>>>> Should the black pups comming out of the Jug bred
>>>>>dogs be registered?
>>>>>
>>>>> Understand that these are the pups that are all
>>>black
>>>>>for those of you who are not farmiliar with them.
>>>>>They are not pups that have any tan, brindle or any
>>>>>other color of trim. They do however, more often
>>>than
>>>>>not, have some small amount of white points on
>>them.
>>>>>The white most typically appears as a small white
>>>>>patch on the chest and possibley some white toes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please respond by giving a yes or no answer and
>>>feel
>>>>>free to qualify that answer if you like. Remember,
>>>>>this is an informal poll and at this point, has no
>>>>>official weight.
>>>>I say no, and it doesnt have to do with color so
>much
>>>>as with the breeding, if the dog/pups are not 100%
>>>>lepard they should NOT be registered period. Just
>my
>>>>2 cents worth. mike
>>>
>>>Mike, what would you do with the pups out of single
>>>registered dogs?
>>
>>Dan, The pups out of single registered dogs can be
>>hunted just like any that have good honest papers. The
>>registration papers on a dog do not mean that much to
>>most hunters anyway. Unless you are breeding and
>>selling puppies to the public, papers aren't
>>important! Most of the people who hunt these dogs are
>>not competition hunters and there are no hunts
>>sponsored by the Registry anyway, so, really, what
>>good are papers. If you had pups out of non registered
>>dogs or registered dogs and didn't want to keep them,
>>just give them away, hunt them or put them down.
>>Hunters have always culled their dogs and that has to
>>keep happening if you are striving for a certain type
>>of hunting dog. If you don't know what to do with
>>pups, DON'T LET THEM GET BRED! Dan N
>
>I've read your response about six times now and I am
>still not entirely sure what you were trying to say to
>me. I already understand that pups out of single
>registered dogs are just like any other lep as far as
>the rules apply. As for the papers meaning anything,
>the great majority of people who call me for a pup or
>started dog of any type (I have one walker and a
>couple of jagdterriers also) want a set of papers.
>Very, very few would not call me back if I did not
>give them their papers on a dog they bought. Also, I
>have no idea what the registry should have to do with
>putting on hunts. There are plenty of hunts put on by
>PKC, UKC, NKC, WTDA, etc... I think that people
>forget that the ALCBA is just that. It is a breeders
>association pure and simple. If you don't want to
>breed and promote those things that further better
>breeding, you don't have to join. No one is making
>people join. I have more to say on that but I will
>make a new post at a later time. As for breeding on
>purpose or by accident, that's where you really lost
>me. Thanks for your resonse, I would like to see all
>of the officers come on here from time to time. Take
>care, Dan McD.

Sorry you couldn't understand my post, I thought it answered your question thoroughly and I just added a few things while I was sending my reply. I wanted to put on here that I just couldn't type any slower, but my wife thought I was sounding like a smart@$$ and of course I listened to her and changed it. If all these other registries sponsor hunts and come up with show champions and nite champions then explain to me why the alcba does not. The little world and world champions of the American Leopard Cur Association, INC. are champions of the association not the registry. Please remember that the association and registry are two different entitys. I am sure some people are not aware or just don't remember that they are not the same organization. I am not pushing for the alcba registry to sponsor hunts or come up with titles for our dogs because I hardly ever hunt in competition any more, but some of the other members may be interested in some kind of a program sponsored by the registry.
I thought you question to Mike was "what do you do with pups out of single registed dogs".
What I am saying, is if you don't want pups out of single registered dogs, don't breed to one. I don't know of a single registered dog in the leopard breed that is still living anyway. There could be a few, but I don't know of one. Just a few percent of the people that hunt these leopard dogs are breeders, most just like to hunt their dogs. Dan N

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