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Date Posted: Fri, Jun 01, 09:45:48pm CST
Author: Dan McD.
Author Host/IP: bal-dr-cas-cisc2-176.dial.airstreamcomm.net / 64.33.181.178
Subject: Re: More Bullshit
In reply to: Archie 's message, "Re: More Bullshit" on Wed, May 30, 07:12:28pm CST

>>>>Well I have been reading these posts since I last
>>>>posted ans cant quite believe some of this. First
>off
>>>>I said that I was interested in the breed and
>>>>association and all I got was some off the wall
>>>>remarks about, yahoo you are gonna volunteer, so get
>>>>out your checkbook and get ready to start mailing
>>>>questionaires and other things and get ready to have
>>a
>>>>large phone bill,seemed somebody was tired of doing
>>>>these things. Well, like I said ,all I got was an
>off
>>>>the wall remark, nobody saying give me a call or
>>write
>>>>me or anything to say what it was I was volunteering
>>>>for,in other words I got no help from any one as to
>>>>what I could do to help out. Thanks a lot. Also I
>see
>>>>another post on why papers are not important,
>>>>something about the registry not sponsoring any
>>hunts,
>>>>so why support them(that is how I took it)and this
>is
>>>>from officers of the association. Dont make no sense
>>>>to me. Seems to me nobody wants any help and
>somebody
>>>>doesnt think the registry is important. You know,
>>just
>>>>really dont know what to think about all this.
>>>
>>>Nick, I didn't say anything about not supporting the
>>>ALCBA registry. The pedigrees on dogs can be kept by
>>>the breeder and it is not necessary to register dogs
>>>if you don't want to. Some people are just hunters
>and
>>>want good dogs for their desired game and some just
>>>don't want to spend the money. I am going to keep
>>>registering my dogs, probably with the ALCBA and UKC,
>>>I do like to hunt in the oompetition hunts once in
>>>awhile. UKC has some cur and feist hunts for squirrel
>>>and coon and I have hunted in several in the past. I
>>>have made four dogs into nite champions and so have
>>>several of the other members. I would still hunt in
>>>one once in awhile if they were more close to where I
>>>live.
>>> I don't know of any registry that donates much of
>>>anything to help put on a hunt. There is a lot of
>cost
>>>involved with trophies and other prizes that are
>given
>>>away at the hunts. The ALCBA, INC. is just a group of
>>>members who are interested in the leopard cur dogs.
>>>The ALCBA registration office is a separate entity
>>>altogether. The membership, through its volunteers
>who
>>>sponsor the World Hunt are Indiana, Missouri,
>>>Illinois, Ohio and one time Oklahoma sponsored the
>>>World hunt, but is was held in Missouri. The Little
>>>World Hunt is always sponsored by the Illinois
>>>section. Also, each year the Blue Ridge Section puts
>>>on a hunt in North Carolina and Lamaar Meeks sponsors
>>>a hunt in Georgia. These sections take care of
>setting
>>>up the hunts which takes a lot of work. Someone has
>to
>>>operate the kitchen, guides are needed, a master of
>>>hounds, bench show judges and others to take entries
>>>and these people receive, little, if any thanks at
>>>all. Other states are welcome to sponsor the world
>>>hunt, all the association is looking for is
>volunteers
>>>to have them in their states. I guess the state
>>>sections need to become more active. I realize that
>>>not all members can make it to the world hunt each
>and
>>>every year for one reason or another. We have members
>>>of the association that live in several different
>>>states and some in Canada. Most cannot go to the time
>>>and expense of making it to the hunts, but many just
>>>want to belong to something that they beleive will
>>>help the promotion of the dogs. Every member has
>>>input, all he has to do is drop one of the officers a
>>>note in the mail or give one a phone call to discuss
>>>different issues, or just show up at the world hunt
>>>and express your veiws.
>>>Most members probably don't realize this, but the
>>>color yearbook that the association puts out costs
>>>over $4000. Money taken in for membership dues this
>>>year is less that three thousand dollars. As you can
>>>see, the association is losing money on the yearbook.
>>>More ads are needed to offset the cost. When the
>>>association runs out of money, I assume there will be
>>>no more yearbooks unless someone can come up with a
>>>better idea.
>>>The post about single registering dogs: This has been
>>>happening since the registry first got started.
>>>Richard McDuffie single registered several dogs in
>the
>>>beginning and well beyond. If all the stories you
>hear
>>>about Nimrod, "the foundation of all leopards", being
>>>found in Texas running whatever, was he truly a
>>>leopard cur or was it just a name attached to a dog
>>>because he had leopard spots and short ears? There
>>>have been many hounds and different strains of curs
>>>registered as leopard curs in the past. I think it
>was
>>>done mainly to enlarge the gene pool so that there
>>>would be less inbreeding and linebreeding. Plott dogs
>>>were in the McDuffie strain years ago and some of the
>>>farm sheperd blood was put in later on. Just a few
>>>years ago some dogs were registered that had Treeing
>>>Walker and Black Diamond cur in them. I am not sure
>>>what the black diamond curs were, but assume that
>they
>>>were probably Stephen Curs. So are these dogs pure
>>>leopard? I don't think so and I can get the paperwork
>>>to prove it. Myself, I just want to know that the
>dogs
>>>that I hunt are leopard curs for at least three or
>>>four generations, beyond that I don't really care. If
>>>I like the dogs I hunt, I keep them, if not, they are
>>>culled!
>>>Sure there is a wide variety in color and
>conformation
>>>of these dogs, but study some of the pedigrees and
>>>talk to some of the old timers to find out what the
>>>ancient ancestors really were.
>>>If you go back far enough, you will find that all
>>>breeds of dogs came from WOLVES.
>>>That's all for now, but I can always write again.
>Dan
>>>N
>>
>>Thanks for writing that Dan, that was very well
>>stated.
>>
>>Mike, when I read your post I was not suprised. It
>>was the impression that I hoped would be missed by the
>>folks keeping up with this board. It is the
>>impression that I got as I read through all of the
>>posts. I have talked to most of the individuals on
>>this board several or many times and I can say that we
>>don't have many good writers (myself included) as much
>>of what they say ends up getting mistook. After
>>talking with them it seems that their intentions are
>>far better than it would seem as you read some of the
>>posts. I do get the impression that some members are
>>getting a little weary of carrying the duties of thier
>>positions. I can't blame them, I don't want the job,
>>mostly because I can't afford it living so far away
>>from the core of activity and can't be counted on to
>>make all of the meeting right now. Some of them have
>>been dooing the same jobs for years and years.
>>Dedicated...yes! Bulletproof...no. However, if any
>>of you have lost the love for your positions, retire,
>>there will be someone to pick up the slack and I would
>>rather see those of you who have given a lot of
>>yourselves get back to enjoying your leps. from the
>>side line where you can just have fun rather than
>>loosing one ounce of love for this breed and
>>organization. I have very limited resourses right now
>>and will for a while (divorse) but I will do anything
>>in my power to help. Just ask.
>I see you said if someone has lost their love for
>their positions, retire!! well the last 3 or 4
>worldhunts we have to beg. them to keep their office
>as we could not get enyone to take them. mabe we can
>get some fresh blood to come and take their turn but
>so far all we hear is they want a voice in the ALCBA.
>I am not saying enything bad about enyone just the
>truth about the officers we have are doing a great job
>and steering us in the rite way in my book. i am sure
>glad to see that we are getting people fired up and we
>can have the largest worldhunt ever. also I challange
>the leopard cur folks to donate to the raffel's and
>put more add's in the yearbooks. I really like the
>colored yearbooks.

Archie, I agree with what you said about the officers and the last world hunt. I may be completely wrong but I got a strong feeling that some of the officers would have liked to had a little relief. I did not get the feeling that they did not like thier jobs but like I said, just my perseption of things. I would have really liked to have thrown my hat in for whatever I could have done to help but I had my mind set to just listen and take things in being that it was my first world hunt and all. Since then I have taken the time to farmiliarize myself with the bylaws, the charter, many members and quite a bit more history. If I can do anything this year, I will be more than happy. Dan McD.

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