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Date Posted: Sun, May 13, 06:07:20am CST
Author: perry
Author Host/IP: cache-dtc-ae09.proxy.aol.com / 205.188.117.13
Subject: Re: ALCBA SURVEY/POLL ON STANDARDS
In reply to: Jason Abbott 's message, "Re: ALCBA SURVEY/POLL ON STANDARDS" on Fri, May 11, 09:25:11pm CST

>>>>well i just got the Poll On breed standards.[THEY
>CAN
>>>>ONLY BE CHANGED AT THE WORLD HUNT MEETING} JUST SO
>>ALL
>>>>MEMBERS KNOW THEY WANT CHANGES THAT IS WHERE IT IS
>>>>DONE. NOT BY THE SURVEY. DONT GET ME WRONG THIS IS A
>>>>GOOD THING TO GET MEMBERS ACTIVE. AS I SEE THE SAME
>>>>FOLKS THEIR FOR THE LAST 11 YEARS
>>>
>>>Archie,
>>>
>>>The setting and enforcement of standards is under the
>>>authority and control of the ALCBA Registration
>>>Office,Inc. It is not done at the "World Hunt
>>>Meeting". This has been true since the office was
>>>incorporated by the first owner of the office many
>>>years ago. Whatever is voted on at the "World Hunt"
>>>has always been carefully considered by the office (I
>>>believe) and Jed and I will, of course, give
>>>consideration to anything passed at the annual
>>>meeting. The membership has always had a significant
>>>advisory capacity, but not the control or ability to
>>>change or set standards.
>>>
>>>This will not change under the present ownership. Jed
>>>and I plan to be at the "World Hunt" this year. Jed
>>>was there last year and I had planned to be there
>too,
>>>but my wife's cancer necessitated my cancelling out a
>>>few days before.
>>>
>>>The small percentage of the membership present at the
>>>annual meeting may, or may not, represent the
>majority
>>>opinion of the membership. Whether you are aware of
>it
>>>or not, there are many Leopard owners out here in the
>>>west, and in the south, far north and east who are
>>>being left out entirely. It is a 35-hour drive
>one-way
>>>for me. It also comes right at the opening of our
>bear
>>>season here. I was once told by one member that if I
>>>wanted to have any input that I should get my "lazy
>>>ass" to the hunt. That sort of attitude will do
>>>nothing to promote our unique and noteworthy breed. I
>>>believe that we must be more receptive and welcoming
>>>to people. (That man, fortunately, is no longer
>>>involved with Leopards.)
>>>
>>>The survey that we have sent out represents the very
>>>first attempt in the history of the breed to
>determine
>>>how the entire membership feels. We think that is
>>>important. Printing, mailing out and providing
>stamped
>>>return evelopes cost a considerable sum of money.
>That
>>>was done entirely by this office, not the
>association.
>>>Jed and I are anxious to see what people think. We
>>>welcome comments, phone calls etc. If anyone has a
>>>suggestion, question or just want to talk about our
>>>favorite breed, why not call one of us?
>>>
>>>Please fill out the survey, make any comments you
>want
>>>and send them back to us.
>>>Happy trails,
>>>Randy
>>
>>>I fill that there should be survey's mailed out to
>>all members on any big changes.This should be done to
>>for electing people for committe.This way you get each
>>members opinion not just a hand full.This is how the
>>OMCBA does there buisness and it's really been good.We
>>need to do something to make the ALCBA grow because it
>>sure hasn't done much growing over the last 10
>>years.These dogs are to good not to be growing.We need
>>to work together not work against each other.There are
>>different strains of Leopards that work good for
>>different people in diffrent areas.So we should not
>>put anyone strain down because it's not the same as we
>>are hunting.This is just my opinion and a lot of
>>others that I have talked with.We would just like to
>>see the ALCBA grow. Jason A
Please fill out your survey and return it as promptly as possible. I had a couple of the multiple choice questions that did not have a choice I wanted. I made note in that area to reflect my choice. I have spoken with several officers of other breed associations. The mountain cur association was not one of them. I have not found any association that conducts business other than that at membership meetings or executive meetings.They do have commitees that choose nominations for special awards and ballots are sent out to membership for these.( Hall of fame etc) Several noted to me this has a low response rate. While I do agree it is tough for many members to make these meetings at the ALCBA World Hunt we do have fellas from Connecticut, Georgia, and even Canada attend. At the Ohio 2 hunts 14 states and Canada were represented. I think that is a decent cross section of the membership. It is just nearly impossible to suit everyone. Officers and several board members spoke recently and we see a need for an association news letter 1-2 times a year. We have spoken about making the state vice presidents rolls more active. My thoughts on this is to make a contact that each member in that state may feel easier to contact and speak with. I will agree our association membership wise is not where I would like to see it. We have done some growing business wise in the past several years. Alot of this was necessary to be able to address a larger membership. We recently set up an active board of directors. My thoughts were to give officers and the registration support for issues that arrise during any given year. We recently with the help of Paul Wagner became Incorporated and have a published set of by-laws. As with any new venture this may need revised ocassionally. I see this change in ownership as another possibility to grow as an association. We need to try to keep emotions in check which is difficult when the majority of leopard fanciers are as passionate as most of us are.
I have also spoken with UKC , Mr Todd Kellam and AKC Mr Steve Fielder for their advise concerning how breed standards are set and thier usefulness. Basically from the correspondence I found breed standards are used for show dogs. They are a guideline to go by. Mr Kellam told me papers were never pulled or registration refused for a failure to meet breed standard. These faults have never kept a dog from competing in a UKC Hunt. They however are used to score a dog in a bench show and in some cases disqualify a dog from a show. The chartered association does dictate the breed standards for the UKC. The Association and Registration need to work together to decide how need to use our standards.
We do need to work together the Association and Registration if success is to be achieved. We both need to focus on "LISTENING". Lets face it without active members we are both doomed. I encourage all members and leopard fanciers to contact the registration and the association with concerns. I personally would love to hear from the many members from the ares Randy spoke of that feel left out to get their feelings first hand about some of our present issues. Something I try to live by is " I try not to complain unless I am willing to try to do something to change the situation". Don't set back and grumble. Take the opportunity to make your opinions known. If space is of concern flip the survey over and use the back. If needed get another sheet of paper. Don't let the opportunity to let your voice be heard slip by. ALSO
VERY IMPORTANT....
IF YOUR SURVEY WAS NOT SENT OUT BEFORE NOON ON SATURDAY YOU WILL NEED TO AD A 2 CENT STAMP. POSTAGE WENT UP AGAIN...
Take care, Perry Lambert

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