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Date Posted: Mon, May 14, 02:52:18pm CST
Author: Perry
Author Host/IP: cache-dtc-ae09.proxy.aol.com / 205.188.117.13
Subject: Re: Survey
In reply to: Dan McD. 's message, "Re: Survey" on Mon, May 14, 08:47:36am CST

>>>I have read the posts concerning the new survey.
>Seems
>>>to me that if we have no standards there is no need
>>>for an association, you can just say well this dog is
>>>a Leopard Cur whether it is or it isnt. If there is
>no
>>>standards for all dogs there is no model of what a
>>>leopard should look like what coloring is acceptable
>>>and what there hunting abilities are. Seems that each
>>>area of the country has their own ideas as to what is
>>>considered a Leopard, and that is why I believe we
>are
>>>not growing like we should, everyone has their own
>>>ideas and nobody is on the same page. As far as
>>>everything being decided at the world hunt, seems
>like
>>>there is only a small number of members deciding
>>>everything. I pay my money to be a member and abide
>by
>>>the so called rules but I have no say in anything as
>>>to where this association is going with these dogs.
>If
>>>there is no standards and only acertain group of guys
>>>dictate what is going to happen, why be a member of
>>>any association. Also everyone thinks it is so easy
>to
>>>go back to the World Hunt, why not hve it some where
>>>else where other people get to drive 25 or 30 hours
>>>one way to attend. In this day and age votes can be
>>>taken via email or the telephone. If you have no
>breed
>>>standards you really dont have a breed of dogs, what
>>>you have is a bunch of people saying their dogs are
>>>Leopards, which doesnt mean anything. I have talked
>to
>>>people that have seen many so called Leopards and
>they
>>>have said that you line up abunch of dogs and none of
>>>them look like the same breed of dog. If you see a
>>>Brittany a German Shepard Doxie or a Bluetick or a
>>>redbone or any other recognized breed you know what
>>>you are looking at. Get the point? I dont need the
>>>association to raise and hunt Leopards, I can do as I
>>>please, but I am very interested in these dogs and
>the
>>>association, and I abide by the rules as that is
>being
>>>a part of the association. I am not trying to stir
>>>trouble but as a member I believe I have no say in
>>>anything, as any one that does not attend the World
>>>Hunt. Dont believe that is the right way to handle
>>>things. I will go on with these dogs whether I am a
>>>member or not as I believe there is nothing better
>>>than a good Leopard.
>>
>>Nick, The ALCBA,Inc. has a set of breed standards
>>that have been in effect since 1965. These breed
>>standards have been printed in the yearbook for
>>several years. There have been a few changes in the
>>breed standards through the years, but are basicly the
>>same as when they were first written. I beleive it
>>would be real difficult and time consuming for each
>>and every decesion brought up at the world hunt to be
>>voted on to be mailed to the entire membership for a
>>yea or nay vote. Most organizations have an executive
>>committee that are elected by the membership to handle
>>most of the business. Thank you Dan
>
>It seems as though there is a need for a more
>established system in the election and representation
>process. I believe that the idea of a biannually
>published news letter would be a way to communicate to
>the general membership those ideas that are to be set
>forth into the voting process. This newsletter would
>reach every one with a mailing address and notify them
>of any forthcoming votes. If I'm not mistaken (and I
>have not checked yet) the website that the Registry
>will be setting up is one possible way for the
>Registry administer members only serveys. There could
>be a members only section that would opperate like the
>"POLL" function on many websights that I have seen.
>It is only a suggestion. I'm am resonably sure that
>at the present, that the Registry websight is
>currently being looked at as a costomer service
>vehicle only (reg. forms and the like). Jerry may
>have a "POLL" option on his other website, that may be
>an option, but that is entirely up to him. At any
>rate, if some members do not have a computer, there
>are libraries nearly everywhere and there is not much
>to stop nearly every member from voting (via the
>internet) while at the same time keeping the costs
>down of administering these polls, serveys and votes
>for that matter. These types of sweeeping changes in
>the process or standards of the breed do not and most
>likely will not come up for amendment very often but
>there are other decisions that would be able to be
>made more efficiently.
>
>Another use of the e-polls would be for the board
>members and breed representatives to be able to have
>administrative access to the website in order to poll
>their constituants. This would be a useful tool in
>ascessing the general opinions of the various groups
>they represent. Typically, people are voted into
>office for two resons. The opinions they hold are of
>the same as some of the people who voted them into
>office. More often though, these people are chosen
>for their leadership, character and style of operation
>and are expected to reppresent rather than make
>decisions entirely on their own. I am pointing no
>fingers in making these statements as I do not know
>any of you well enough to make ascertations about any
>one individual. Before the advent of the internet,
>expectations may have differed, however with the easy
>availability of communication in todays world there is
>not much excuse for not contacting the people you
>represent in some way. Simply put, e-polls would make
>things e-asier while a newsletter would make sure that
>each member was advised of upcoming events.
>
>Dan McD.
First I want to state this is my opinion only!! I struggle to remain neutral at times as I feel I have an obligation to all members to do. It gets tough at times. First in my opinion, only one way exists to contact all members and share information. It is snail mail. All members have a mailing address. All do not have computers or wish to deal with computers. Also a person has to be careful posting on the computer. The intent of which a post in intended and a post is received by the readers can differ greatly. While I am not against some type of program to allow all members to vote I will say I do not know a timely way to do it. I want to hear specific ideas as to how this could be handled?? How will we handles motions that have amendments to be voted on prior to the base motion being voted on?
Next, it is tough in any organization to find workers. Personally I have a full time job and always have a project or 2 going around the house. I like to hunt, garden and fish. I take my office seriously but don't know if I can or am I willing to devote the hours this could take with mail in ballots. We also need to address the possibility of ballot tampering. The possibility is there! We are suffering the pains associated with growth.
Third is the exspense of mailing news letters and ballots. I may as well open another can of worms while we are at it. The color yearbooks are great. I really like them. We need to be realistic and admit it is a exspensive endeavor. We loose money in a major way on these. The math is easy. We can not continue at the current rate. To get ads is like pulling teeth. We need to consider other options for our yearbook. Back to black and white, a year book every 2 years, or other ideas?? Remember ideas will need workers so keep this in mind. I am asking folks not just to say what they want but put ideas out here to help get it done.. Thanks Perry

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