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TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎

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山竹牛肉

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Date Posted: 19:28:29 11/07/03 Fri

水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎?
就算上堂唔記得帶野都要罰20蚊，得唔得先?
20蚊唔係小數目，唔係個個負擔得起
唔買又要跳舞，又唔見其他老師罰我地跳
乜香港教育署俾老師罰我地錢同跳舞咩?
就咁罰企唔得?點解要跳舞呀!點解要罰錢呀!!!!!!!

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[> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎
Author: 小米 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:39:09 11/07/03 Fri >水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎? >就算上堂唔記得帶野都要罰20蚊，得唔得先? >20蚊唔係小數目，唔係個個負擔得起 >唔買又要跳舞，又唔見其他老師罰我地跳 >乜香港教育署俾老師罰我地錢同跳舞咩? >就咁罰企唔得?點解要跳舞呀!點解要罰錢呀!!!!!!! 咪係

[> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎
Author: 傑 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:41:09 11/07/03 Fri 唔係犯法就合法架啦迫人跳舞無犯法......

[> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎
Author: 車仔迷 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:51:05 11/07/03 Fri 迫你俾$20係幫助支持濟記參加明愛0既人你唔俾錢跳舞我諗只係為輕鬆下上堂0既氣氛你唔發覺上佢堂, 個個都好期待好開心嫁咩?.?(某D除外) 唔似得其他堂咁嚴肅

[> [> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎

Author:
同學
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Date Posted: 18:01:12 11/08/03 Sat

>迫你俾$20係幫助支持濟記參加明愛0既人
>你唔俾錢跳舞我諗只係為輕鬆下上堂0既氣氛
>你唔發覺上佢堂, 個個都好期待好開心嫁咩?.?(某D除外)
>唔似得其他堂咁嚴肅

何謂輕鬆?水蛇要人跳既舞和做既動作是怎樣的,我想大家都知道
在全班人面前做佢既動作,自然其他人會好輕鬆,個個都笑, 但係要做動作既人有咩感受?我覺得咁做比起比人鬧更無尊嚴

仲有買明愛幫助支持濟記參加明愛0既人,我是認同的,但係因無帶功課,冇帶書等同"支持"有咩關係?用到"迫"就無左個意義.水蛇迫人買就已經唔係一朝一夕的問題,每逢明愛將至,就一定有人講

學校其實真係要重視這問題

[> [> [> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎

Author:
車仔迷
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Date Posted: 13:21:28 11/09/03 Sun

>何謂輕鬆?水蛇要人跳既舞和做既動作是怎樣的,我想大家都知?
>在全班人面前做佢既動作,自然其他人會好輕鬆,個個都笑,
>但係要做動作既人有咩感受?我覺得咁做比起比人鬧更無尊嚴

如果你唔係上佢堂亂UP野或者你唔係黑人憎使鬼跳舞咩?.?
>仲有買明愛幫助支持濟記參加明愛0既人,我是認同的,但係因無
>帶功課,冇帶書等同"支持"有咩關係?用到"迫"就無左個意義

我地濟記0既人個個都唔多支持明愛, 你買獎卷係做善事, 買遊戲
卷支持下搞明愛0既人, 人地搞明愛好辛苦同冇左好多時間嫁, 如果俾佢地知道你地冇人買, 即係冇乜人會去玩佢個GAME啦, 會傷心嫁,
諗下人地感受先好鬧吧-.-"20蚊唔係小數目, 但係你一個禮拜買少D零食, D錢都響返度啦....
俾佢成日屈買獎卷0既大有人在, 又唔見人地嘈?.?有D十幾張都係咁啦.....你冇做/帶野就應該罰嫁啦!!你冇見過人跳舞嗎?.?睇住人跳舞個個都會笑, 難道你唔笑?.?你係唔笑先好講你跳果時冇尊嚴, 人地跳你笑, 人地會有尊嚴嗎??個個唔出聲, 得你出聲, 證明你唔諗人地感受!!

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎

Author:
車仔迷
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Date Posted: 13:39:39 11/09/03 Sun

如果你唔係上佢堂亂UP野或者你唔係黑人憎使鬼跳舞咩?.?

我指0既"黑人憎"係廝殺激戰果時俾人"攻擊"之後, 坐唔返低之後要跳舞

仲有, 如果你覺得許SIR咁做係唔0岩0既話, 你大可以同佢講, 叫佢以後唔好叫人跳舞, 但係唔該你問下你地班0既意見先好講...
我相信如果上堂冇人跳舞, 冇廝殺0既話, 上佢堂肯定好悶!!
一D上堂0既樂趣都冇!!每堂淨係講講講, 悶到嘔泡, 你想呢個情況出現嗎??

[> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎
Author: Oldman [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:59:36 11/07/03 Fri 山竹牛肉兄，可否給老師一個較好的稱呼，我想...若你的話是有道理，但別人一看到你的留言用語，會否大打折扣....

[> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎
Author: 無聊 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:18:30 11/08/03 Sat 水蛇上堂...迫"你"俾錢 or 跳舞因你無帶A&D用具ma~ 輕鬆下上堂0既氣氛都好ga~ 某D除外)

[> Subject:

Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎

Author:
...too bad
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Date Posted: 18:17:23 11/08/03 Sat

I think this is an extremely serious problem. The objective of Caritas vouchers are to donate money to the needy by heart, but not by PUNISHMENT or PENALTY. Forgetting to bring textbooks to class or any misbehaviour are something that studnets should be responsible for, but students should react by improving their behaviour, NOT by giving money to Caritas.
Some teachers may think that students should donate money to Caritas because $20 is not a big amount. But if the money is not donated by heart, does it really meet the objective of the charity?

[> [> Subject: too bad 兄所言甚是
Author: 公仔佬 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:12:12 11/09/03 Sun 閣下所言有理，在下深表認同。

[> [> [> Subject: Re 唔係掛
Author: 心 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:31:06 11/10/03 Mon >閣下所言有理，在下深表認同。咁公仔佬即是否定一些人多年來(自八九十年代至今)在濟記的一向作風遮.

[> [> [> [> Subject:

Thanks Mr Kung

Author:
...too bad
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Date Posted: 19:05:53 11/10/03 Mon

Thank you Mr Kung. This is my first time for posting a message here while a teacher agrees with my opinion.
Every year I saw the 'huge' charity amount of the Caritas vouchers, and I suspected how much is really donated by heart, especially for those classes having $1000 and above: if there were 40 students in a class, each student would have to donate $25. Maybe there were many students forced to 'donate' money by their teachers because of their misbehaviour.
I am waiting to see this year's 'result' and all of you may also guess how many 'real' donation we get. Haha.
Maybe some teachers have to think deeply and not to put the cart before the horse.

[> [> Subject: 因此……
Author: 公仔佬 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:00:05 11/10/03 Mon 因此，學校每年都會先向同學解釋捐款給明愛的意義，纔開始向大家募捐。大家還記得許老師在早會用普通話向大家作出呼籲嗎？今年情況更特別，連校長也有作出補充呢。

[> [> Subject:

Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎

Author:
九濟小學生
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Date Posted: 19:17:29 11/20/03 Thu

>水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎?
>就算上堂唔記得帶野都要罰20蚊，得唔得先?
>20蚊唔係小數目，唔係個個負擔得起
>唔買又要跳舞，又唔見其他老師罰我地跳
>乜香港教育署俾老師罰我地錢同跳舞咩?
>就咁罰企唔得?點解要跳舞呀!點解要罰錢呀!!!!!!!

如果唔跳佢又可以點,唔買又點,佢冇咩可能會話...
你唔跳我就記你缺點! 唔買我都要記,記記記!!
冇可能個罪名係"不聽從師長指令"掛...
跳唔跳係自身的權力,冇帶野比人罰係應該
但是冇啦啦比人用撕殺攻擊搞到跳阿伯來,真係好唔應該
又冇錯,但係都要跳!佢可能鍾意人地跳舞
但係冇理由要將自己的快樂建於人地的痛苦上!
我希望學校可以正視下呢個問題!!

[> Subject:

奻偝sir斻,肮𡦀腔腢欅!!!

Author:
皺婡阨彴譎
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Date Posted: 20:10:44 11/10/03 Mon

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[> Subject: 水蛇係岩的
Author: 終極水蛇迷 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:21:38 11/10/03 Mon 用簡體中文看!!!

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Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎

Author:
山竹牛肉
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Date Posted: 22:14:11 11/10/03 Mon

>水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎?
>就算上堂唔記得帶野都要罰20蚊，得唔得先?
>20蚊唔係小數目，唔係個個負擔得起
>唔買又要跳舞，又唔見其他老師罰我地跳
>乜香港教育署俾老師罰我地錢同跳舞咩?
>就咁罰企唔得?點解要跳舞呀!點解要罰錢呀!!!!!!!
但回到最顯淺的層面：合法嗎?

[> [> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎

Author:
無聊
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Date Posted: 22:34:24 11/10/03 Mon

>>水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎?
>>就算上堂唔記得帶野都要罰20蚊，得唔得先?
>>20蚊唔係小數目，唔係個個負擔得起
>>唔買又要跳舞，又唔見其他老師罰我地跳
>>乜香港教育署俾老師罰我地錢同跳舞咩?
>>就咁罰企唔得?點解要跳舞呀!點解要罰錢呀!!!!!!!
>但回到最顯淺的層面：合法嗎?
...回到最顯淺的層面：香港教育署俾人上堂唔帶野嗎?

[> Subject:

TO公仔佬

Author:
...too bad
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Date Posted: 18:55:59 11/12/03 Wed

''因此，學校每年都會先向同學解釋捐款給明愛的意義，纔開始向大家募捐。大家還記得許老師在早會用普通話向大家作出呼籲嗎？
今年情況更特別，連校長也有作出補充呢。''
I totally agree but the main point is what the teachers did are violating the aim of donating money to Caritas by buying vouchers. One main point was given out firmly that, the money was not donation, but was a punishment, or even penalty.
Many people dislike Caritas but not because they did something bad, the main reason is the Caritas vouchers -- not only in SFXC, the 'punishment' situation occurs also in most of the Catholic Schools. Many schools think that if the donation amount is not big enough, they will lose face (I don't know whether SFXC is having this idea). I am looking forward to seeing all of the Xavierians donating money to Caritas, and all by heart, not by punishment.

[> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎
Author: 佐為 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:01:44 11/13/03 Thu 我一路觀察所得...怕比佢罰跳舞而唔順佢超既人都係一d平時"懶有型"同"扮晒黑社會"既人...

[> [> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬：水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎
Author: jose [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:02:42 11/19/03 Wed >我一路觀察所得...怕比佢罰跳舞而唔順佢超既人都係一d平時" >懶有型"同"扮晒黑社會"既人... agree

[> Subject:

與捐血的道理相同

Author:
公仔佬
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Date Posted: 14:07:31 11/14/03 Fri

我支持同學捐款應發自愛心。正如捐血一樣，我們會勸籲同學在中學離校之前捐出他們的第一滴血。因為我們深信，只要他們認同捐血的意義，並已作出嘗試，日後，他們出來社會做事，也會持之以恆地自願捐血。這個情況的出現，纔是我們的成功；而不是「今年會不會破紀錄」。

[> Subject: Re: TO公仔佬

Author:
山竹牛肉
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Date Posted: 19:50:36 11/15/03 Sat

>水蛇上堂迫人俾錢同跳舞合法嗎?
>就算上堂唔記得帶野都要罰20蚊，得唔得先?
>20蚊唔係小數目，唔係個個負擔得起
>唔買又要跳舞，又唔見其他老師罰我地跳
>乜香港教育署俾老師罰我地錢同跳舞咩?
>就咁罰企唔得?點解要跳舞呀!點解要罰錢呀!!!!!!!
但係咁喎，呢D「捐獻」唔係自願，什至有D人因為咁樣午餐都冇得食

[> [> Subject: Re:唔要褲子要面子ma
Author: oldman [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:49:20 11/15/03 Sat 唔要褲子要面子ma 濟記面子重要,一話午餐都冇得食重要先. 有本事就學師兄咁死梗唔買,無人敢左右你,david許根本唔敢搞大件事,事關佢響BA心中的紀錄已很花.

[> Subject:

差d比人誤導左添................

Author:
你估下先?
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Date Posted: 21:41:38 11/15/03 Sat

原來可以揀罰咩架.....咁你自己唔揀跳舞怕無面,自己揀罰完錢之後條氣唔順就係度話阿sir呢樣唔岩,果樣唔著......好似唔係咁得wor......
我地不如慢慢咁諗下先...一開始,無帶野梗係要比人罰啦....
跟住阿sir就罰你跳舞(罰跳舞....無問題架...完全合法)...唔想跳舞咁難睇wor,阿sir見適逢明愛賣物會,就比你選擇跳舞定買獎卷(有得揀架wor..咁你一定就要被人罰架啦,你而家有得選擇跳舞定買獎卷,咁你唔跳舞買獎卷係你自願既選擇,你可以揀返本身既懲罰---跳舞....買獎卷只不過一個可以抵消唔駛跳舞既方法),就好似唐朝既租庸調制咁,唔想買獎卷可以跳舞架...唔想跳舞又唔想買獎卷咪記住帶野lor.............

[> Subject: 仲有仲有呀.......
Author: 你估下先? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:46:47 11/15/03 Sat 許sir比你揀買獎卷定跳舞....幾咁有自由...佢可以一黎就罰你跳舞,佢完全係做得合法架......佢有得比你揀,你反而係度反咬佢一口,真係狗咬呂洞賓,不識好人口.......試問幾何有老師寬容比你地自己揀懲罰咁好呢??

[> [> Subject: Re: 仲有仲有呀.......

Author:
你估下先?的書友
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Date Posted: 16:02:20 11/17/03 Mon

>許sir比你揀買獎卷定跳舞....幾咁有自由...佢可以一黎就罰?>A跳舞,佢完全係做得合法架......佢有得比你揀,你反而係度反
>咬佢一口,真係狗咬呂洞賓,不識好人口.......試問幾何有老師
>寬容比你地自己揀懲罰咁好呢??

有呀，根叔咪比你揀出去企三分鐘or留兩次堂。一直都話根叔好架啦。

[> [> Subject:

Re: 仲有仲有呀.......

Author:
山竹牛肉
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Date Posted: 17:17:06 11/17/03 Mon

>許sir比你揀買獎卷定跳舞....幾咁有自由...佢可以一黎就罰?>A跳舞,佢完全係做得合法架......佢有得比你揀,你反而係度反
>咬佢一口,真係狗咬呂洞賓,不識好人口.......試問幾何有老師
>寬容比你地自己揀懲罰咁好呢??
但係咁喎，佢好多時罰人都係咁
一係就買獎卷
一係就跳亞伯萊
一係就食肉眼扒

咁樣仲有冇得揀?
唔係成日都有苦功做的

[> Subject: 實不相瞞..............根叔係我偶像黎架.........我無話過佢唔好
Author: 你估下先? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:31:45 11/17/03 Mon 所以我從來都未話根叔唔好....呢位書友會唔會係白撞架.....仲要扯到咁遠既...........

[> [> Subject: Re: 實不相瞞..............根叔係我偶像黎架.........我無話過佢唔好
Author: 小小書僮 [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:27:58 11/17/03 Mon 喂~我回應緊你所講既 >試問幾何有老師寬容比你地自己揀懲罰咁好呢?? 咋喎~ 你竟然又話我白撞，又話我扯得遠，仲要講到我話你話根叔唔好(我話根叔好人，比你有選擇權o者)，都唔知你想點?

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Author: 你估下先? [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:38:08 11/17/03 Mon 你須要明白被人罰就梗架啦因為你無帶野呀ma...... 你更須明白許sir原本比你既懲罰係跳舞,但係可以用買獎卷黎抵消ja wor........