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Subject: ¤j´b¤£¸Ñ


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Date Posted: 23:41:39 11/10/03 Mon

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[> Subject: ¸Õ¸Ñ´b


Author:
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Date Posted: 01:09:23 11/11/03 Tue

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Date Posted: 01:37:45 11/11/03 Tue

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[> Subject: Re: ¤j´b¤£¸Ñ


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Date Posted: 20:27:09 11/11/03 Tue

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[> Subject: Re: ¤j´b¤£¸Ñ


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Date Posted: 20:52:06 11/11/03 Tue

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[> [> Subject: ¦hÁ§Aªº¦^À³


Author:
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Date Posted: 23:08:56 11/11/03 Tue

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[> Subject: A question


Author:
King Fai
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Date Posted: 22:02:29 11/11/03 Tue

Hi~ I haven't left any message here for a long time~
I wanna say something not just focusing on Mr. Chan~ but much more general... It's actually a question that I've been looking for the ans for a long time... but it still haven't come out yet...hope that someone can share some of ur opinions with me!

So... for a teacher, if he is not teaching well (Let's just don't discuss how to define "teaching well"), then should he be allowed to continue to teach?

Well, if he is a young teacher, he doesn't have any teaching experiences, it's reasonable for him to have some mistakes or rooms to improvements in his teaching. One may claim that time is needed for him to improve, is that right? But my point is, we students can't wait. If I'm a F.6 student, I just have to years to prepare myself for the AL exam, then this "BAD" teacher waste my valuable two years, what can I do? Okay, he may have some improvements after these two years, but not me!! >.<" So...?? he should be fired or not? Or, can a school fire a teacher just because he is not teaching well enough?

There may be some grammatical errors` haha~ but I'm too lazy to type Chinese~~~ :p
[> [> Subject: Re: A question


Author:
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Date Posted: 22:23:41 11/11/03 Tue

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§Ú¤Q¤À¦P·Nking fai¬J·N¨£" we students can't wait. If I'm a F.6 student, I just have to years to prepare myself for the AL exam, then this "BAD" teacher waste my valuable two years, what can I do? Okay, he may have some improvements after these two years, but not me!! "
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[> Subject: Re: ¤j´b¤£¸Ñ


Author:
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Date Posted: 22:34:25 11/11/03 Tue

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[> Subject: Re: ¤j´b¤£¸Ñ


Author:
m&m
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Date Posted: 23:56:32 11/11/03 Tue

King Fai's question leads to an important point that BA should think about. We should not view "Chan Sir" event as a single and special event. Similar events are likely to arise in future. So how to deal with these?

Kung Sir suggested "»{¯uªº©M³¯¦Ñ®v½Í½Í§A­Ìªº·P·Q©M­n¨D". I do not disagree, and it will be very good if every issue can be resolved in this way. However, it is a tactic (ad-hoc) but not a strategy (general). As top management, BA is responsible to think 1) what are the aims of the school? (resolute in action, gentle in manner?) 2) given the aims, who are the clients of the school? (students, parents, teachers, the E&M Bureau, or all?) 3) what are the clients' needs? Have they changed? 4) how to balance the interests of different clients in case of conflict? 5) is the current feedback system effective & adequate in evaluating whether the aims are in fact achieved? etc...

There are no right or wrong answers to the above questions. But BA needs to have a clear strategic plan in place and communicates it effectively to all interested parties.
[> [> Subject: Å¥§g¤@¤i¸Ü¡A³ÓŪ¤Q¦~®Ñ¡C


Author:
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Date Posted: 17:30:23 11/12/03 Wed

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[> Subject: µª¤½sir


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Date Posted: 20:53:24 11/12/03 Wed

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