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Date Posted: 07:16:03 03/04/02 Mon
In reply to:
BOB C CT/NY
's message, "Re: To King Davy" on 19:35:54 03/01/02 Fri
>>Sorry I haven't been back to continue our
>>deliberation, but I had something to take care of. I
>>liked your rendition of salmon fishing out on the lake
>>and if it was like that in the river then everyone
>>would be happy.
>>
>>Here's how salmon fishing in the river goes......
>>The start of a nice day, taking a long, long walk to
>>get away from everyone and try to find some fish that
>>aren't all wigged out. I see two fish milling around
>>in the tail of a small pool and I have them all to
>>myself or do I? After ten minutes of working large
>>streamers to them I hear several guys coming up behind
>>me. They spot the fish and without even the slightest
>>thought of consideration, are now splashing into the
>>river between me and the fish, making a wild attempt
>>to snag the fish. They pursue the fish down the river
>>splashing and falling in as they go. I can't stand to
>>watch anymore and at that moment my only thought is
>>that I wished I was a DEC officer on my day off!! Lake
>>fishing to river fishing is like comparing canned tuna
>>to prime rib. This type of nonsense goes on all the
>>time and this year I'm not even going to fish during
>>salmon season. Instead, I'm going to video tape all
>>the wonderful snaggers, rippers, roppers, leadslingers
>>and highstickers. After one day out I should have
>>about 3 hours of tape and I'll send copies to the DEC
>>and Albany and they can see first hand how great a
>>fishery we have here in upstate NY. I want to thank
>>them from the bottom of my heart for all they have
>>done for the area. Why, if it weren't for them,
>>Pulaski would just be another sleepy little town with
>>a crappy little trout river running thru it. Look at
>>how much the area has improved, I can't name one fast
>>food chain that hasn't been there. And look at all the
>>big businesses that have sprouted up overnight, tackle
>>shops everywhere with a fish cleaning stations on
>>every corner! How about all the big hotels and motels
>>too. My god, Oswego county must be the richest in the
>>state. Why, if it weren't for that hatchery we would
>>all be on welfare or are we already?
>>
>>We will never have a true fishery because real
>>sportsmen won't come to the area and spend top dollar
>>for a day on the fabulous Slam'em River in Snaglaski
>>NY. Sorry, but that's the truth and until somebody or
>>something changes, it will always be a black eye for
>>the state and the fishing society.
> You hit it exactly on the head,could not have
>stated it better.As the wizards continue managing and
>the lake fishery dwindles to hell,I for one am watchin
>1 more lake season and then bagging out of here for
>stripers etc.After 29 years of great fishing and the
>final flameout into a total snaggery ,its time to get
>fishing once again.Hope all u trib. hunters manage to
>lift out the final remnants of dark sluggish-fighting
>steelies, fill your wallets,take client pics,advertise
>at the shows,fill motels n restuarants u so-called
>river guides and there are genuine ones too..Once the
>steelies are depleted the DEP experts will again dump
>a batch of fingerlings off the salmon river and feed
>the cormorants.It's a sad sad shame what has happened
>up there, the people are so great and area so pristine
>to people who enjoy the great outdoors.Am hopin things
>turn around however I have my doubts.Will have house
>,boat,50 acres on Tug hill for sale soon.Other states
>are wakening up to the fact of what used too be in
>Pulaski and are addressing the fishermen revenue draw
>out of state by revising their stocking programs.Sorry
>but King Davy inspired me to write whats on my mind
>too.He is soooo correct!!!!!!
hey Bob C....I know you guys had less then stellar salmon fishing this fall....but you need to make sure you are aware of a few things. With the pen rearing programs all mature now...you won't be getting ALL the kings in the lake back to the salmon river. So while home base is the salmon river..the western basin had much better fall fishing then in the past 8 years cause our pen reared fish didn't swim to the salmon river. Another interesting fact...in the creel census survey's that the DEC took last fall on the Niagara river....they sampled a huge amount of salmon river clipped mature fish. They think because the salmon river was low and warm well into late Sept. the fish opted for cooler better water at the west end. I know the guys fishing kings in Sept. in the Niagara had a banner year. Out of Oak orchard we had the best Sept. fishing we've had in 10 years....so things are changing...more so that the fish are now being distributed and staying put all over the lake and not in just one place. However...there are record numbers of wild kings coming out of the salmon river each June. If they truly imprint on the salmon river...you may see a boom crop of wild fish that will return. Dan Bishop ...the Altmar Biologist for king salmon is in the second year of a survival study program to see just how well those young of the year fish survive once they hit the big water.
So I understand your pain...but the fishing did not go down hill everywhere. In the western basin we fish off shore from late May till Oct. and clobber fish off shore...it's a whole fishery that is largly untapped in the eastern end of the lake. You may want to explore those situations...if you don't already...cause there are plenty of fish in the canyons if you know how to find them. Good luck ...hang in there
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