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Subject: Do you feel safe yet? Author: Ned Depew [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 11:35:18 03/18/06 Sat If not, what will it take? A govenrment agent monitoring your every move - and those of your fellow citizens - with implants and tracking devices? An exchange between Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and our own Chuck Schumer from the Senate Hearing on government surveillence - wherein Gonzales refuses to declare that there may be any limits at all on the Bush Administration's ability to invade our privacy at its own whim without the slightest hint of checks and balances: SCHUMER: ... We talked before about the legal theory that you have, under AUMF [authority to use military force]. And I had asked you that under your legal theory, can the government, without ever going to a judge or getting a warrant, search an American's home or office. ... GONZALES: I'm not suggesting that it is different, quite frankly. I would like the opportunity, simply, to think... SCHUMER: I'm sorry. If you could pull the mike up. Sorry. GONZALES: I'm sorry. I'm not saying that it would be different. I would simply like the opportunity to contemplate over it and give you an answer.[...] Now, here's the next question I have: Has the government done this? Has the government searched someone's home, an American citizen, or office, without a warrant since 9/11, let's say? GONZALES: To my knowledge, that has not happened under the terrorist surveillance program, and I'm not going to go beyond that. SCHUMER: I don't know what that -- what does that mean, under the terrorist surveillance program? The terrorist surveillance program is about wiretaps. This is about searching someone's home. It's different. So it wouldn't be done under the surveillance program. I'm asking you if it has been done, period. GONZALES: But now you're asking me questions about operations or possible operations, and I'm not going to get into that, Senator. ************** Are you safe from Government intrusion into your home - your computer -your private affairs? Gonzales is "not going to get into" answering that question! Whatever happened to the Fourth Ammendment? This is America isn't it? Land of the Brave? Home of the Free? Or has the Bush Administration changed it to "Land Of Those Who Are So Frightened Of The Terrorist Boogeyman That They Will Give Up the Freedom For Which Their Forebears Fought and Died In Exchange For An Empty Promise Of "'Safety'?" How frightened are you? Of Terrorists? Of the Fascist, proto-totalitarian Bush Administration? Fight Back! [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: So you can't take it ??? Author: Gene [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:04:22 03/18/06 Sat Tom sends you his morniing greeting and you delete it.

[> [> Subject: You know why... Author: Ned Depew [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:25:22 03/19/06 Sun I've pointed out many times - this isn't a "chat board." There are thousands of those on the web if that's what you're looking for. They welcome that kind of silly stuff. I got to see it on Tim's board, as well as in my e-mail. Why does it have to be posted everywhere? I saw it. I enjoyed it. But I'm not going to clutter up this board with that kind of stuff. Why should I?

[> [> [> Subject: Why shouldn't you???? Author: Gene [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:20:39 03/19/06 Sun It would make for a more friendly atmosphere. Plus, you would probably get more dialogue here if it was a warm and friendly site, instead of a sterile and white on black clearing house of mundane one sided opinions.

[> [> [> [> Subject: No "should" about it Author: Ned Depew [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:53:09 03/19/06 Sun As I said, Gene - if that's what you want, go somewhere where it's freely posted and wanted. I don't want it here - as I made abundantly clear in my introduction at the top of the page (it falls, in my opinion, under the category of "pointless posts") and have repeated several times. I don't allow pornography here, either or commercial advertising or racism. There are plenty of places on the web where those who want that kind of thing can go as well - but not here. If you don't like the rules, you can simply not come here. It's that simple.