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Subject: Additional variations were due to some estimates including the death toll from political repression: e.g., those who died in the Gulag labor camps, while others estimated only those who starved to death. Author: The estimates prior to the opening of former Soviet archives also varied widely but the range was narrower: for example, 2.5 million (Volodymyr Kubiyovych),[63] 4.8 million (Vasyl Hryshko)[63] and 5 million (Robert Conquest).[65] [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 27/11/10 2:07:57 In reply to: HolodomorA child victim of Holodomor Period 1932–1933 Total deaths 2.6 - 10 millionObservations Considered genocide by thirteen modern states. A part of the Soviet famine of 1932-1933. 's message, "" on 27/11/10 1:52:52 Additional variations were due to some estimates including the death toll from political repression: e.g., those who died in the Gulag labor camps, while others estimated only those who starved to death. In addition, many of the estimates are based on different time periods. Thus, a definitive number of deaths continues to be a source of great debate. The estimates prior to the opening of former Soviet archives also varied widely but the range was narrower: for example, 2.5 million (Volodymyr Kubiyovych),[63] 4.8 million (Vasyl Hryshko)[63] and 5 million (Robert Conquest).[65] [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date One modern calculation that uses demographic data, including that recently available from Soviet archives, narrows the losses to about 3.2 million or, allowing for the lack of precise data, 3 million to 3.5 million.[63][66][67] According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, the overall number of Ukrainians who died from 1932-1933 famine is estimated as about four to five million out of six to eight million people who died in the Soviet Union as a whole.[1 27/11/10 2:09:50 Robert Conquest believed that the famine of 1932–33 was a deliberate act of mass murder, if not genocide committed as part of Joseph Stalin's collectivization program in the Soviet Union. Genocide question 27/11/10 2:11:37