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Subject: Timeshare Refunded!


Author:
Raptor
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 17 2004, 11:00:31

Dear Fellow Timeshare victims,

I managed to get a local timeshare firm to refund after nearly 3yrs of pastering, reporting to CASE, calls and making personal visit to them. I have confronted their contract officers and even met their MD but alas they just wanted to make some excuses and try to delay or even intimidate me.

They once even informed me when I threatened to take legal actions that their firm employed Lee&Lee for legal services.

I persisted and went to seek legal actions but later stick to using CASE as the lawyers weren't confident on wining the case. These timeshare companies knows what they are doing. Their contract basically protects them from any legal liabilities.

I kept on the fight even when they decided to offer to waive 10year membership fee for my Timeshare. After numerous letter from CASE (and after 3 CASE officers have come and go).
The firm finally agreed to refund. CASE informed me that the particular timeshare firm is trying to be on good terms with CASE so that maybe the reason. Another I think maybe because of the impending Fair-Trade-Agreement legislation.

I got a full refund and did not paid for any of the resort fee (because I did not use it!).

My advice is keep trying especially now with the Fair-Trade-Agreement in force, CASE the watchdog body now has more 'bite' to it.

Always return the certicate immediately once you decided to ask for refund to show that you are determine.(if matters were to be settle in courts..).

Be firm and not let the firm persuade you to change your mind even if they throw in feebies.

I think ASIA is now the new haven for all these Time-share (crimeshare) companies as there were little in laws that protect consumers. We have only just implemented FTA!

These international timeshare companies had a hard time plying their trade(tricks) in Europe/U.S because consumer has rights and knows of their reputations unlike us in ASIA.

I think Timeshare businesses are starting to flatter (or will be) as more of us are awares of their reputations.

Keep up the good fight!

Raptor

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[> Subject: Refund


Author:
Edwin
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 17 2004, 16:40:18

Could be due to the fact a timeshare reseller is going on trial soon as stated in today's Strait's Times.

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[> Subject: Refund


Author:
Harrec Hutasuhut
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 19 2004, 0:09:09

Hi! I knew from the address stated must be from LGM.

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[> Subject: refund


Author:
John
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Date Posted: Tue, Mar 23 2004, 6:27:44

i was duped saturday and yesterday by martin lake resort in mississippi, i went back to cancel and was only offered to get raped less than i was. i even called the owner to express my dissatisfation, only to get hung up on. So in response i made a website to post the truth about their scams. the resort website is martinlake.com, mine is martinlakeresort.com, i have been sending them updated as the site comes along, i hope it wakes someone up.

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[> Subject: Refund & Termination. Help!


Author:
Tan
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Date Posted: Mon, Jul 19 2004, 2:16:47

Hi,
I purchased an odd-year IRN/ATC Timeshare plan and paid up in full in 2001. I bought it after 3 long hrs of high sales pressure and persuasion that I would be buying quality accomodation at today's prices, and that there are HUGE COST-SAVINGS.. The maintenance amount was actually stated in black & white. Little did i suspect that the Maintenance fees could go up. ..

ATC manager spoke to us today. He warned that the timeshare owners are all changing to 'destination' packages. He said ATC Timeshare owners dropped from 7400 to about 400 TS owners, through changing to 'destination'packages. He stressed that Maintenance fees will go very high (he mentioned MTC maintenance has doubled!!).. He 'offered' a suggestion saying that we could pay $12k to change our plan to 'destination', so that we can enjoy 'greater savings'.

Given this situation, the remaining timeshare owners are likely to be SHORTCHANGED into paying HIGHER maintenance fees!!

Pls advise me on the course of action. I would really like to ask for Refund, and to terminate this agreement. I really cannot trust this company to provide the dream travel I thought i had purchased.

Pls email me. Thanks a lot!!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Refund & Termination. Help!


Author:
Edmund Yap
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Date Posted: Mon, Aug 09 2004, 2:15:12

Hi,
I also bought an odd-yr IRN/ATC timeshare plan in 2001 and completed the installments in Dec 03.
Yesterday, i went to ATC to meet up with an asst. manager regarding this "destination" thingy. Apparently, he told me that timeshares are phasing out in Europe and we in Singapore are also following the change to "destination". At first, he quoted 13k, but i'm obviously not very happy and he quoted a special 2-wks package costing another 5k+. I requested time to think and he told me that my file has to be submitted to Thailand before he knock of at 5pm and 8-Aug-04 is the last day to take up this offer.......so there's no time to consider. Anyway, we did not sign up for this "destination" thingy and i'm also thinking of how to get some justice done........

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[> [> [> Subject: To Edmund reply


Author:
Henry
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Date Posted: Mon, Sep 13 2004, 22:43:02

I also bought a odd year plan and I have been paying 50% of the total purchases. Seeing that they keep delaying the ATC card membership, i don't know whether i should continue paying.Pls email me at henry894@hotmail.com for some brief talks. Btw my last instalment is on Aug 2006

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Refund & Termination. Help!


Author:
Sze Ho
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Date Posted: Fri, Sep 17 2004, 15:33:11

To: Edmund Yap

My case is similar to u. My one is even year (red), cost me SGD 9,000, and have completed the installments in Feb 04.I just met with ATC and listened the disadvantage points of our old version timeshare program as well as want me to fork out another SGD 9,000. Again, want me to take up this offer immediately. I rejected, of course. I believe that there will be at least some justice in Singapore. Any legal action u have took against those conman? Could u pls update me on the progress of it? We might need to gather a protest pool to voice out and to increase our pressure to those sucker.

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[> [> [> [> Subject: ATC conversion plan


Author:
Kelvin
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Date Posted: Wed, Nov 17 2004, 0:10:12

To Sze Ho, Edmund and Tan

Yes I been through the same process. I believed they lied that they had sent letters out to inform existing members of this change in plan only to tell you one day before the "expiry" date that they are making a special effort to meet us since we did not respond to their offer. I doubt they would meet members in a group.

As usual, they try to use all means to make people convert their plan. For me it means forking out extra SGD 5K. I just told them I am not signing anything and eventually walked off.

This is sheer madness at the brazen way they are continuing to con ppl to part with their hard earned money.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: lost...


Author:
akm
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Date Posted: Fri, Mar 11 2005, 20:20:21

hi, this just happpened to me today. kep asking me to decide immediately but hold him back. also i didn't pay maintaince for years already. just want to know what your outcome was. if i could just not bothered about it as i already pay in full and i'm willing to take the lost.
akm

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Refund & Termination. Help!


Author:
George
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Date Posted: Mon, Dec 06 2004, 15:39:31

Don't be conned by these money vultures. They don't have your interest at heart. To know more about this scam pse contact me via email. Regards.

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[> [> Subject: Refund and Termination - Help


Author:
George
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Date Posted: Fri, Nov 19 2004, 13:28:25

You have been duped! You have purchased something which is of little or no value in terms of resale. You know there are others who have paid much lesser for the same membership you purchased? My advice - Go to CASE and go to CCD, Police and report. Publicize your plight in the internet and expose these crooks! Warn your relatives and friends!
I am sorry. it is unlikely you can get a refund!

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[> [> Subject: Refund $ Termination. Help!


Author:
George
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Date Posted: Mon, Dec 06 2004, 15:36:01

Email me and i will advice u accordingly. Regards

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[> [> [> Subject: How to stop paying $$$ ??? Can I cancel?


Author:
Lawrence
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Date Posted: Thu, Dec 09 2004, 0:05:51

Hi George,

I signed up IRN/ATC about a year ago. Can I just stop paying my monthly installment and cancel everything? I don't mind forfeiting whatever I have paid. I just want to cancel this. Is there a way out?

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[> Subject: Give up membership


Author:
Ming
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Date Posted: Mon, Nov 22 2004, 15:18:45

So are there ways of just giving up the membership and forgoing of taking back the refund?

I saw from one of the clause that the ATC contract is un-cancelable... hmmm...

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[> Subject: Report to CAD


Author:
Rashid
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Date Posted: Mon, Nov 22 2004, 21:02:32

George, It is good of you to advise other to report to CAD. But it would help if you do likewise and publicise your case for the good of the rest

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[> Subject: What shd i do?


Author:
Serene
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Date Posted: Wed, Dec 01 2004, 23:57:43

I wanna terminate my contract. I have alrdy paid 7k since Nov 2003. I juz know that i am conned =( Please advice me on what i shd do next. My instalments has nt yet paid fully.

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[> Subject: Same... sigh


Author:
Vince
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Date Posted: Thu, Dec 16 2004, 9:46:02

same here serene also around 7k... I have no idea what and all those legal stuffs. Need advice or is there anyone on this case? I wish to join in the cause if possible as I really don't know what to do... Thanks..sigh

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[> Subject: Sigh...


Author:
Crab
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Date Posted: Fri, Dec 17 2004, 10:57:12

so many victims...guess i'm not alone...have not finished paying and don't wish to continue paying... can anyone advise us what to do? can we just stop the credit card payments? then what do we do when we receive their lawyer's letter of demand on the balance of the instalments?

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[> Subject: . . . sigh . . .


Author:
ktan
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Date Posted: Thu, Jan 06 2005, 15:57:39

same problem... how to solve this puzzle...? someone please advise. Anyway, I've stopped making the payment already.

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[> [> Subject: HOW? Need help too!


Author:
Aida
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Date Posted: Wed, Jan 12 2005, 22:19:31

Hey.. did anyone contacted you on how to get out of it? i want to get out of it too. paid about 60% already and was recently asked to upgrade. Please advise!!!

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[> Subject: Timeshare Refunded!


Author:
Gouri
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Date Posted: Mon, Feb 21 2005, 23:41:52

Raptor - Which time share did you have and how long have you had it? How did you claim the money back? Please shed some light...

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[> Subject: Confused...


Author:
Thomas
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Date Posted: Mon, Feb 28 2005, 13:21:59

Hi everyone

I'm also ATC member.. They recently also called me up to advice me to take up destination package.

I'm confused now... is ATC really coning us?

Did anyone manage to get a full refund?

Please advice.

Thanks..

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[> Subject: Con Man doing their Job


Author:
Stephen
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Date Posted: Tue, Mar 01 2005, 10:20:16

Hi Thomas,

At last you finally going to Con by them.

My advice is NOT to go there. It is useless. There is no way they can help you sell your membership nor any cash back. All this are empty promises. All they want is to squeeze more money from you.

Do note that there is another plan after Destination! So they can squeeze some more from you again.

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[> Subject: Lawyer


Author:
Stephen
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Date Posted: Tue, Mar 01 2005, 10:29:01

Anyone engage a lawyer and would like to share with us?

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[> [> Subject: pls let me know the progress, and i may join ... ?


Author:
casper
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Date Posted: Mon, Mar 28 2005, 0:59:29

Me from IRN / ATC ...

pls contact me ASAP


casperkent@yahoo.com

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[> Subject: PLS HELP!!!


Author:
Desperate!
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Date Posted: Wed, Mar 09 2005, 1:10:25

Hi Everyone out there... I've also been conned by IRN or ATC, they've been calling me regarding the outstanding payments as i've stop paying them for quite sometime. They threatened to send me legal letter if i still refused to pay, so wat shd i do now?? Will they really charged me to court?? Wat can i do to get out of this shit!! I've been approached by another company called Paradise who claims that they can help me settle this but i gotta pay for their service, is this another scam again?? CAn someone pls advice me on tat??

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[> Subject: PLS HELP TOO!!


Author:
Teo
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Date Posted: Tue, Mar 15 2005, 10:22:37

Hi, my hubby and I were also pressurized into taking up the Destination plan by IRN!! They made it seem like if we did not take it up, we will basically be left alone and we will have to pay up whatever ridiculous amount of maintenance fee that the resort will ask from us. We are not allowed to cancel as legal action will be taken against us if we were to do so as it is considered a violation of contract!!

We have signed up after that 2hrs of pressurising and are now using credit installment payments. Anyone has any idea how we can stop payment? If we do stop, what actions will be taken against us? Please advise asap as my next payment is due soon..... =(

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[> [> Subject: pls keep me update very very very soon


Author:
casper
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Date Posted: Mon, Mar 28 2005, 1:01:15

pls update me the solution

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[> Subject: Stop Payment


Author:
Stephen
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Date Posted: Mon, Mar 28 2005, 23:41:26

Teo,

If you pay via credit card, do a charge back & engage a lawyer to settle it for you.

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