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Re: Persecuting girls who behave normally -- Anonymous, 13:16:47 06/28/02 Fri
What are you talking about? You are coming on a board that is based on FICTION and not criticism. You obviously have a problem with anything negative in the pageant world even if it means attacking a board based on fictional stories! I do pageants and love these stories! If your bank account is that much in trouble where you have to attack make-believe stories, you are in definite need of serious help and medication! I don't want to read about little Suzy winning the title, all the girls hugged her, she was happy and they all lived happily ever after. That's boring! That's why people read books or see movies because most of the stories in them are not the norm. If you are looking at it as something critical, it only means you are a hungry pageant guru scared crazy of losing money. If that's the case, it isn't these stories that's running them off, it's you!
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Re: Persecuting girls who behave normally -- Anonymous, 16:50:29 06/28/02 Fri
I don't own a business nor a pageant business
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Re: Persecuting girls who behave normally -- Anonymous, 14:59:21 06/30/02 Sun
HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!
Take this crap to another board!!!!! We come on here to read great FICTION stories! GO AWAY!!!
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Re: Persecuting girls who behave normally -- Anonymous, 12:40:58 07/01/02 Mon
AMEN!
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Re: Persecuting girls who behave normally -- Anonymous, 15:03:38 06/20/03 Fri
>Attack on Beauty Pageants
>
>The attack on girls and womin in beauty pageants is a
>clear example of misogynist bigotry, they hatefully
>attack and insult the girls and womin personally, they
>don't just criticize the pageant program, the attacks
>are hateful and personal. This is designed to oppress
>and stigmatize little girls and womin who choose to
>participate in pageants and have a residual effect of
>making females afraid to express their femininity. In
>backward patriarchal societies like the United States
>and fundamentalist Muslim countries every expression
>of femininity is suppressed. In the United States,
>girls are encouraged at early age to dress like boys,
>act like boys, play sports like boys and god forbid
>that any girl should express her own independent
>feminine qualities in public. Those who fear her
>femininity suppress any expression of it, to keep
>feminine womin out of public life and out of success
>and power. In some societies even more repressive than
>the U.S., womin are forced to wear black shrouds to
>hide themselves from public view, in the U.S., putting
>girls in boy's clothes serves as the shroud to cover
>up their femininity. There is also an attempt to keep
>little girls from looking to feminine role models,
>that's why the attacks are usually on the womin
>themselves using personal insults rather than just
>criticizing the way the pageant is presented.
> In free societies people have the right of freedom
>of association, to express their own identity and are
>free to relate to others in their own way without
>oppression. Beauty pageants are a symbol of freedom,
>independence and personal excellence for femin, a
>development of their own personal qualities. The
>misogynists want to deny femin the right to develop
>their own personal qualities, beauty, grace, poise,
>talent, public speaking skills, etc., this is
>certainly repressive and discriminatory.
> The hateful attacks on girls and womin in beauty
>pageants by insulting them personally is an attack on
>the rights of femin themselves. What if a group of
>Neo-Nazis were outside of the Jewish meeting
>condemning them with hateful threats and attacking
>their right to the choose to be Jewish and saying they
>have no right to practice their faith? What should
>they do? Should Jews run and hide, should they disband
>their organization, hide their heads in the sand and
>tolerate this outrage? Womin must stand up for
>themselves, these feminazis are a threat to all womin
>everywhere in the world and must be condemned with the
>same outrage as all bigoted groups.
> Saying hateful things against those who appear in
>beauty pageants is anti-feminine harassment, its puts
>womin on the defensive for simply be a beautiful,
>feminine womon. Only girls are attacked, there's not
>one word against little boys being pageants, and there
>are little Miss. and Mr. pageants. They only protest
>pageants where they express feminine beauty and
>goodness. Why don't they protest women in combative
>activities, i.e.; boxing which insights violence
>against womin, or protest transvestite contests, or
>girls forced into abusive contact sports? But those
>self-destructive activities are consistent with the
>androgynous agenda.
> Prejudice against womin aspiring to be beautiful,
>smart and accomplished is so unreasonable that pageant
>detracters constantly lie about the womin in pageants
>by stereotyping them as dumb, when in reality in most
>pageants, they are exceptionally intelligent. The Miss
>America Pageant has high academic requirements --
>there are no dumb womin in the Miss America system,
>only dumb critics of the pageant. On a AOL message
>board one bitch called womin in the Miss America
>Pageant, "Little miss homemakers, [who] have a pretty
>face and a nice body and no brains."
> Among the finalists in this year's Miss America,
>one lady finished 1st in her law class and another had
>a 3.99 grade point average in biogenetics at Stanford.
>It is typical in the Miss America Pageant, to have
>womin who have or are pursuing degrees in medicine,
>law, journalism and the sciences with high grade point
>averages, some are very talented musicians, singers,
>dancers, they are volunteers in community services and
>have remarkable lists of accomplishments, and are
>among the finest examples of womin the country has to
>offer.
> Such prejudice exposes this person's ignorant
>contempt for womin's identity and natural roles, there
>is the snide put downs of their future roles of being
>a homemaker, wife and mother, and the stereotyping of
>womin who are beautiful, smart and successful as being
>pretty but dumb. Womin have faced such prejudice for
>generations. Womin who are smart, accomplished and who
>have achieved success are disregarded as being just a
>pretty face, such misogynist bigots refuse to ever
>recognize womin's abilities or accomplishments, and
>most hatefully, insult their identity and roles as
>womin.
> I wonder what people like those critics have
>accomplished, what are their academic credentials,
>what value are they to society? From such stupid
>statements you can infer that they are frustrated,
>jealous fools.
> One of the important elements of beauty pageants
>must be the ability of femin to overcome the attempt
>by others to stereotype them and to denigrate and
>persecute them. Femin must be strong psychologically
>and emotionally and have the resolve to be themselves
>-- to be feminine and proud -- they msut never
>apologize for being beautiful and they must not lower
>themselves to the level of their enemies. In the
>pageant, judges must look to reward and encourage
>those femin who are strong and confident in their
>femininity and are able to effectively deal with the
>persecution they face from hostile, prejudiced
>elements of society with grace and dignity.
>
>Kim Emery(1) says, "Pageantry gives so much to those
>involved that it seems a shame that this is happening.
>I know that competing in pageants has returned to me
>the self-confidence that was taken from me when I was
>in a serious accident that left me with a physical
>disability. It has given me the opportunity to inspire
>others to reach for their goals, despite their
>physical limitations. Competing also allows us to meet
>new people and obtain wonderful public relations
>skills that will only help us in the future."
>
>The girl hating sickos in the media and elsewhere are
>intentionally trying to promote hatred and fear of
>femininity and to incite child molesters to target
>girls in beauty pageants out of wishful thinking so
>they can use those crimes to persecute femininity just
>as they have exploited JonBenet's murder. These are
>the same fiends who support psychologically molesting
>children in the public schools by exposing them to
>homosodomite pornography and other obscene material
>designed to seduce them into that deadly lifestyle.
>The media does not condemn such real child abuse nor
>does the mainstream media even report what's really
>going on in the schools. The media themselves are
>purveyors of violence marketed to children to insight
>violence in children, they also produce programs that
>contain some of the most obscene, perverse, immoral
>subhuman behavior to be found anywhere--and show it on
>television, in prime time, so lots of children will
>see it and imitate the immorality. These hateful
>attacks against pageant girls is abuse that terrorizes
>girls everywhere and intimidates them into being
>afraid to be feminine. The devils then use this fear
>of femininity to lure them into abusive activities,
>such as boy's sports, lesbianism, and other freakish
>behaviors designed to destroy the femininity in them
>that they have been brainwashed into hating and
>fearing.
> "Pageants are obscene to the point of child abuse
>and I think they should be banned," said Judi Wall of
>Richmond.(1)
> That is a threat of political violence to outlaw the
>right of girls to dress and look like girls and
>obscenity is a label that is used to ban unpopular
>expressions. This a violent threat that must be fought
>by any means available. Anyone who threatens innocent
>little girls and slanders them by calling them obscene
>doesn't deserve to have their rights respected and
>doesn't deserve to live. People who falsely accuse
>good and loving parents of being child abusers for
>instilling self respect and moral virtue in their
>daughters are evil, anti-social pathogens that should
>be sued for slander. Those personal attacks, when
>directed against individual persons are abusive to the
>children and slanderous to the reputation of good
>parents.
> Some have said that pageants are just another
>activity like sports, while others have countered that
>they're not the same, implying that a girl who plays
>boy's sports is normal (in this perverse society that
>is). It's not the same, pageants are just getting
>dressed up and speaking and performing on stage, a
>good wholesome personal development activity, while
>pushing girls into boys sports is abusive persecution
>of her femininity. Wanting to the beautiful, develop
>her talents, public speaking skills, meeting the
>academic requirements, doing community service and
>maintaining good moral character while expressing her
>personality can hardly be compared with pushing a girl
>into contact sports where she is abused, verbally
>harassed, insulted, and demeaned, where her every
>feminine expression and feeling is aggressively
>belittled and oppressed and where she is physically
>knocked around and forced to behave in aggressive ways
>to pervert her very nature as a female.
> Greg Bach reported(4) that: "A study by the
>Minnesota Amateur Sports Commission found that 45.3
>percent of the children surveyed said they had been
>called names, yelled at and insulted while playing
>sports while 17.5 percent reported that they had been
>hit, kicked and slapped and 21.5 percent said they had
>been pressured to play with an injury. Furthermore, 8
>percent said they have been called names with sexual
>connotations and 3.4 percent reported that they had
>been pressured into sex or sexual touching."
> That hostile environment, and the fact that
>combative sports is inherently abusive to girls, is
>why competitive sports is not appropriate for girls.
>To the degree that such conduct is imposed on girls in
>beauty pageants it is equally inappropriate.
> 'Pageant moms' are ridiculed while soccer moms are
>celebrated as the approved form of abuse used turn
>girls into boys and make them suitable weapons of the
>state. They attack pageant moms but not parents who
>put boys and girls in contact sports together, worst
>of all martial arts, they don't attack parents who let
>their kids become homosodomites or transvestites, they
>only attack the parents who encourage their daughters
>to be virtuous, feminine ladies.
> They say, "let them be kids, don't make them grow
>up too soon", that is what they are doing, being kids,
>they are girls being girls, and that, I believe is
>their real objection, they don't want girls to be
>girls, they want them to be boys. The phrase "boys
>will be boys" is not only accepted as normal but often
>is used to make excuses for the worst behavior of boys
>and men, but in this culture girls are not encouraged
>to be girls. This hostile society makes kids to grow
>up too fast, they wont leave them alone to play and
>pretend. Playing dress up, performing, living out the
>princess fantasy is being a girl, so shut the hell up
>and let girls be girls. Its a shame that girls have to
>confront the hate, persecution and misogynist bigotry
>at such a young age.
> A proud pageant mom (4)declared, "I am proud to say
>that I am the mother of Little Miss West Deptford,
>1995...But now, in the many months since the tragic --
>and yet unsolved -- murder of JonBenet, people view
>pageants, their participants, and the parents who
>encourage them with a jaded eye, a wary suspicion.
>Words like "inappropriate," "voyeuristic," and even
>"child abuse" are thrown around, as if having a child
>tap dance in front of a panel of judges makes a parent
>automatically guilty of some sort of unspeakably lurid
>behavior."
> She went on to say, "I am not my daughter...She
>enjoys talking with people, laughing loud, and making
>noise, as evidenced by her love of cheerleading...She
>has always enjoyed making up and making believe, and
>she's a born performer. She likes being noticed by a
>crowd, being applauded, and putting on a show. Even
>when she was all of two years old, she liked to adorn
>herself in my mother's jewelry (since I didn't own
>any) and dance around the house, brush in hand as
>makeshift microphone, lip-synching to "Girls Just Want
>To Have Fun" while the family laughed. But it still
>took me by surprise when, at age six, she asked to
>participate in her first pageant. But she pleaded
>through my panic, "Come on, Mom. Katie's doing it, and
>it will be fun, and everyone will get to see me dance.
>Please!" and I reluctantly relented."
> She concluded,(4) "They emphasize fun, not
>competition, and many of the girls become close with
>one another because of the shared experience." "I have
>learned to congratulate and celebrate these girls who
>are so different from me" "After all, the girls just
>want to have fun -- and isn't that what being a kid is
>all about?"
> "Although proponents say pageant fever is no
>different from that surrounding Little League or
>T-ball, UK professor Vernon Wiehe disagrees. "My
>concern is these beauty pageants inappropriately
>sexualize young children and they give a message to
>the adult population -- including sex abusers -- that
>children are sexual objects,"..."The point of the
>matter is there are pedophiles out there in numbers
>none of us like to think about. It's risky business,"
>said Theresa Morian, a social worker and family
>services clinician for the state in Jessamine County."
> From where do they imagine these things? Their own
>sick, deranged mind. Normal human beings look at these
>little girls and see sweetness and purity and are
>inspired with love and protect desires -- the inhuman
>devils look at little girls and see sexual objects, in
>fact objects of scorn and hatred and mercilessly
>attack them. These girl hating perverts shouldn't be
>looking at girls at all, and they must be kept away
>from girls whatever it takes -- such inhuman viruses
>should be exterminated.
> What is so evil in its twisted irony, is that the
>media and others like them would never insinuate that
>a homosodomite is responsible for inviting violence
>against oneself. Nor should anyone. If anyone made the
>slightest insinuation that a gay or lesbian, no matter
>how obscene or pornographic their displays, was
>responsible for violent attacks against gays or
>lesbians, they would condemn such statements to high
>hell and stop at nothing to sensor anyone making such
>statements. Yet these same inhuman, misogynist,
>monsters continue to blame womin and even innocent
>little girls for violence committed against them
>simply for being beautiful, appearing in public and
>behaving in feminine ways. We are now at war against a
>system, that, at the same time, exploits the killing
>of a gay or lesbian to suppress any dissent against
>that lifestyle, while exploiting the killing of an
>innocent little girl to blame her for her own death
>and incite more violence against femin.
> The message this sends is that girls had better not
>dare to express their femininity on stage or appear
>too beautiful in public or they will keep inciting
>violence against you until you fear your femininity
>and turn against it and hide yourselves in shame.
>
>Suesan Rajabi, Miss Colorado USA 1996, is the daughter
>of Iranian-born American parents, knows what this kind
>of persecution against womin leads to. She regularly
>visits Iran," PNB(1) wrote, "where she wraps herself
>from head to foot in the garment known as the chador
>and experiences life in a puritanical, male-dominated
>society, run according to a few people's
>interpretation of the Islamic religion." She is a
>journalist reporting on and working with the oppressed
>dissident media in Iran. PNB(3) said, "Their rules
>fell hardest on women, who were banned from using
>makeup, showing their hair or revealing any part of
>their bodies. And many career opportunities for women
>vanished."
> In chauvinistic countries, including the United
>States, girls and womin sometimes receive death
>threats because of the way they look, or are accused
>of "inviting" their own rape or murder. Ironically,
>Miss Rajabi "judged one of the last pageants in
>which...JonBenet Ramsey competed" the article said.
>She remembers JonBenet "as genuinely sweet and
>fun-loving." Said PNB, "She loved to perform, she
>loved the costumes."
>
>Bill Press on CNN's Crossfire(2) called pageants named
>"dream girls" and "glamour girls", "sick".
> To say that any girl who dresses up to look like a
>positive image of a feminine lady is sick is a
>deranged bigot that has a sick and hateful attitude
>toward all womin. Bill Press is the same creep that
>promotes homosodomite perversion and wants it taught
>to children. Bill Press hates womin so much that, on
>CNN's Crossfire(2), he wished death and destruction on
>the Miss America Pageant and its supporters. He said
>"I just think it's too bad that Hurricane Floyd didn't
>pick tomorrow night to hit Atlantic City, rather than
>a couple of nights ago. But look, institutions come;
>institutions go. This institution made a lot of sense
>in the days of black and white TV and Chesterfield
>Cigarettes and the fox trot. It's time to kill it.
>It's over."
> This evil minded, misogynist, bigot wished
>violence, even death on these womin, even using the
>words "kill it", which is a Freudian slip that shows
>his violent hatred for womin. Tomorrow night is
>Saturday night, the night of the Pageant. Womin in
>fundamentalist counties have been killed for simply
>showing their face, legs or an ankle in public. This
>neo-communist bastard who promotes the political
>homopervert agenda is preaching hateful violence
>against womin, persecuting them for the way the look,
>and for natural feminine expression and wishing death
>on them. This smirking evil minded, bigot can't be
>allowed to preach hate and violence against womin with
>impunity because he is involved with the political mob
>and will use his influence to direct policy in a way
>that persecutes girl's and womin's rights which may
>even threaten their lives. Bill Press is a hypocrite,
>he denounces anyone who criticizes homosodomites but
>preaches hate and death against womin, which may lead
>to inciting violence against them; to attack
>femininity is to attack womin's nature.
> One of the bigger challenges for femin in pageants
>is to learn how to respond to the hateful bigoted
>oppression in a classy and graceful way and
>communicate their purpose and values.
>
>
> by Gregory Flanagan
>
>1 - Kim Emery, Miss Massachusetts Sunburst / Miss
>Massachusetts USA Petite: Posted on the Pageant News
>Bureau message board
>2 - CNN's Crossfire - (topic) The Miss America
>Pageant; Sep. 17, 1999
>4 - Advocating to End Child Abuse in Youth Sports -
>Greg Bach; the National Alliance for Youth Sports:
>Illinois Periodicals Online
>* - The spelling of womon and womin identifies natural
>females, as opposed to we-men (females impersonating
>men) and feminazis (which some call gender feminists
>or radical feminists) along with femon and femin which
>identify feminine womin or natural feminists. If you
>notice words usually ending in the suffix (-or) such
>as actor, visitor, neighbor spelled acter, visiter and
>neighber it is because (-or) is masculine and (-er) is
>gender neutral.
>Wo-man (p. we-men) - A subject of or follower after or
>imitater of men. Woman means "out of man." In Genesis
>Adam says: "She shall be called woman, because she was
>taken out of man."
>Womon (p. womin) - A normal, natural feminine, adult
>female, meaning one with a womb.
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