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Date Posted: 12:14:30 03/18/09 Wed
Author: AlexLee
Subject: Re: pauly and tori
In reply to: pain 's message, "Re: pauly and tori" on 14:12:28 05/03/08 Sat

>>No problem with the idea that Jake was arrogant. Of
>>course he was. (Also dumb: Why would anyone show up
>>for a meeting advertised as "dark noon for you?") But
>>I'm not sure he knew enough about the true nature of
>>Tori's relationship with Pauly to be in a position to
>>take it seriously. We don't see much of his
>>relationship with Tori because that's not what the
>>movie's about. But remember, Tori was doing her
>>darnest to present herself to him and to most of the
>>world as a straight girl who had no real feelings for
>>Pauly. Pauly and Mary may be the only people who knew
>>differently.
>>
>>Alex
>
>>But
>>I'm not sure he knew enough about the true nature of
>>Tori's relationship with Pauly to be in a position to
>>take it seriously.
>
>do you think so? ...hm... you know the situation
>reminds me of experiences of myself. their was a boy,
>who wanted to be together with my girlfriend. he and
>me knew each other and spent time together. we were
>not the best friends, but liked each other. he flirted
>with my girlfriend you know, as if i was
>air/nothing!(why she answered his flirt is another
>point, i just want to focuse on him in this point)
>because in his head there was not the possibility of
>"two girls could really be in love". you understand???
>i expirienced it it is true!and when i saw jake i had
>the same feeling. i got the impression the main thing
>he is interested is himself. and to have a nice-
>looking girlfriend to have sex with, thatīs all!
>they had sex in the first night, without knowing each
>other. i think people who love each other would take
>more time to enjoy their love!!! to talk, smile at
>each other, look in each others eyes, to come close to
>each other. i think and hope ;) also boys work like
>this when they are in love, arenīt they?!
>AND: jake would have feeled that tori is not in love
>with him, if he was really interested in a love-
>relationchip with her, i am convinced.no he was not
>looking in her heart and he didnīt want to in his
>supperficial way of life. all people who thought tori
>is not "that way" where afraid of a change and
>"something that is different/NEW"(like tori herself)
>or/and wanted to believe in a lie, MORE than to see
>the truth!!! if somebody wanted to know about the
>truth, he/she would have go to tori or pauli and ask
>for THE TRUTH honestly, respectfully with an open
>heart. : )
>but that didnīt happen. pauli and the love was left by
>all, ALL, ALL, ALL persons! that is the h u r ting
>thing in that film. but i am happy it is s h o w n,
>because i know this is real happening in our "lovely,
>perfect (ha,ha,ha) world" and it happend in my own
>life and could happen again... to be left and feel
>left by all,accept yourself. and it is saad that
>things are that way in our way of living. it is a
>problemthat has to be seen!
>...to talk about love in a l e s s o n as the most
>important, and the most worthy thing and to spy on it
>in daily life!! you know by yourself what i mean, you
>live now like me and see it!
>i also think pauli is o.k. that she jumped! i just
>wished there could be another way! : )
>
>wrote pain..., that dreams of being happiness again.


I think i totally understand where you're coming from. Somehow when two girls are in a relationship, (of any labels), and when a boy comes between them and starts to flirt/go after one of them, he pays absolutely NO ATTENTION to the other one. It's almost as though he has no respect that the two girls are in love and one is the other's. It's more like having a double standard. If there's a straight couple and say another guy wants to cut in, it's like there will be some mental barrier in his head that "oh this girl is with that dude" kinda thing. I'm not saying it applies to all men. It's more of like those who are full of their male egos. I've seen/heard them saying things like, "oh why not let me show you what a real man is like." and this happens especially so if one of the girl is butch identified. If both happens to be girly girls, then it's somehow stucked in their head to see the girls as merely bestfriends. Perhaps time might have changed now but this kinda things i believe still occur around the world.

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