Enjoying all the comments--one thing I didn't see (could have missed it though) that I felt contributed mightily towards Jamie's hostility in BOTB is Geneva's death. John returns to Helwater directly as a result of this girl's death, a death Jamie feels responsible for, is attempting to atone for, is feeling guilty about. All his emotions are on the edge--his renewed despair at Claire's loss, his guilt over Geneva's pregnancy and death, John's repeated intrusions into his life, the knowledge that "his life is not his own," the uncertainty of knowing if it ever will be again. And John makes overtures, however subtle? and then declares that he could master Jamie in some way sexually? It is a wonder Jamie <I>didn't</I> kill him. The Drums story focused on Jamie's circumstances from his POV where no doubt he would rather skip over some aspects of the story. We all edit our lives to remember the most painful aspects in a way we can cope best. I don't think Jamie is any different. -- LJG Discussion board

[ Show ]

Support VoyForums

[ Shrink ]

VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

Monday, April 20, 0:15:57 [ Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, [7], 8 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 08:40:15 09/11/07 Tue
Author: KathleenM
Subject: Enjoying all the comments--one thing I didn't see (could have missed it though) that I felt contributed mightily towards Jamie's hostility in BOTB is Geneva's death. John returns to Helwater directly as a result of this girl's death, a death Jamie feels responsible for, is attempting to atone for, is feeling guilty about. All his emotions are on the edge--his renewed despair at Claire's loss, his guilt over Geneva's pregnancy and death, John's repeated intrusions into his life, the knowledge that "his life is not his own," the uncertainty of knowing if it ever will be again. And John makes overtures, however subtle? and then declares that he could master Jamie in some way sexually? It is a wonder Jamie didn't kill him. The Drums story focused on Jamie's circumstances from his POV where no doubt he would rather skip over some aspects of the story. We all edit our lives to remember the most painful aspects in a way we can cope best. I don't think Jamie is any different.
In reply to: tlk2vicki 's message, "Another interesting discussion down the page about the difference in tone and attitude between John and Jamie in Voyager and BOTB. It was running off the screen, so I thought I'd add my remarks up here. I wonder if Jamie sounds more hostile in BOTB because this is written from Lord John's point of view? Voyager was written from Jamie's POV, wouldn't you say? We all perceive specific events quite differently based on our individual history and emotions." on 06:15:26 09/10/07 Mon

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Replies:

[ Contact Forum Admin ]

Forum timezone: GMT-8
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums^(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.