Yes, "throwing cold water" on it - that's what I was trying to say, only you captured it so much better! And reading this new book does make me look at some of my favorite parts of the older books with new eyes - - as you say, John's comment is kind of a bonus to the reader (though clearly nothing of the sort for Claire and Jamie!), and I hadn't thought of it that way before. It's part of his richness as a character, that he's not perfect, and acts like a jerk sometimes. -- LJG Discussion board

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Date Posted: 15:11:32 09/30/07 Sun
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Subject: Yes, "throwing cold water" on it - that's what I was trying to say, only you captured it so much better! And reading this new book does make me look at some of my favorite parts of the older books with new eyes - - as you say, John's comment is kind of a bonus to the reader (though clearly nothing of the sort for Claire and Jamie!), and I hadn't thought of it that way before. It's part of his richness as a character, that he's not perfect, and acts like a jerk sometimes.
In reply to: Lady Jay 's message, "I agree. DG writes in such a way that she gives us information, and we fill in the blanks. How the blanks are filled tends to vary, and I think that some readers surprise Herself when they don't seem to pick up on the "clues" that she leaves, but I think that for the most part we end up on the right track, tho' taking different byways. My take on this scene was that Jamie simply wanted to end the exchange before it went any further. LJG and Willie's arrival put the adults on edge. Claire had already been short with LJG, and he had come back with the uncalled for comment. Jamie was angry at the turn things were taking and letting that anger out let him take control, his version of throwing cold water on the situation, and it worked. Both stepped back, took a look at their actions, and apologized, as Jamie had likely known both would, once their cooler heads had a chance to prevail. That LJG did reveal some of his inner thoughts and feelings was a neat bonus." on 08:49:22 09/30/07 Sun

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I want to jump in on this bandwagon *g*. I've thought alot about this scene in the past, because it's one of my favorites. My first take on it was that Jamie was embarrassed with what John said, period. Now, after this lengthy and interesting discussion/debate I have a more in-depth opinion about the scene. Jamie, out of love and the utmost respect for Claire, would never have said anything to her in public about her comment to Lord John. (although he would have in private, I suspect). But, Lord John took what Claire said and ran with it. At THAT point, Jamie knew he wanted to put a stop to this runaway, snippy exchange. However, it was John who crossed the line, so to speak....but it was also intended to stop Claire from going any further...but without humiliating her because he loves her. Sooooo...in the final analysis....it was both for John AND Claire to stop...but he was smacking LJG's hand, so to speak. (NT) -- Conmama, 05:19:11 10/02/07 Tue

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