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Subject: Robert Newton as Long John

Author:
Bob Miller

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Date Posted: 09:15:16 09/02/01 Sun

Robert Newton was only 51 when he died. What happened?
Loved him in Blackbeard and saw him in an old film set during the French Revolution. I don't know if it was "A tale of two cities" or not. Finally there will never be another for the part of Long John Silver. They must have had to tie a leg back for a performance. This must have been quite painful and he must have had problems restoring it to life after a performance. Did it cause him problems later in life?
Does anybody know the names of the actors who played Patch and Iron Hand in "The Adventures of Long John Silver" series
and when they may have died?

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Author: Stuart Fanning [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:32:57 09/03/01 Mon Patch was played by Grant Taylor. He died in England in 1971. Iron Hand was played by Billy Kay, cannot find out when he died. Both actors played the parts in the subsequent TV series. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Bob Miller [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:08:11 09/03/01 Mon Thanks Stuart [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Jab [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:58:40 09/05/01 Wed I had to respond to this message-they barely ever tied RN's leg up because it is SO obvious that he is walking on both in most scenes! In TI and LJS! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Author: Robert Miller [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:00:59 09/08/01 Sat How is it so obvious when you see only one leg? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

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Susan
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Date Posted: 09:49:23 09/10/01 Mon

In the long shots, obviously, he has his leg tied up behind him ... but if you really pay attention, you'll see that most of the time he's shot from above the knees ... making it unnecessary to subject him to such discomfort. (He does seem to be getting around just a little too easily in those scenes--much moreso than when you see him from a distance.)

BTW, if you've seen the series episode "Execution Dock," notice that, in the scene where he painstakingly ascends the steps to the gallows, you never actually see Robert Newton climbing the stairs on one foot. All you see is a close-up of a foot on the step. (You can check it out at <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.liketelevision.com/web1/classictv/longjohn/">LikeTelevision</a>.)

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Jab
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Date Posted: 12:22:49 09/10/01 Mon

The main reason for my last post was that in Long John Silver, the part on the beach where Jim and LJ are walking with El Toro toward the governor's warehouse, there's a part where RN actually FORGETS to use the crutch and takes a full step - walking on both legs! I noticed it right away. I know it would've been uncomfortable, but for reality's sake, the extra trouble would've made all the LJS movies/series a LOT more believeable! But thats one of VERY few qualms!

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Re: Robert Newton as Long John

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Bob Miller
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Date Posted: 19:30:49 09/10/01 Mon

Susan and Jab:
Thanks for being so informative.
I believe it was Treasure Island near the beginning
when Jim first met Long John.John hopped out from behind
the bar. Jim gasped as he saw one leg and John met his glance as he looked at the one leg with Jim.
Was this the one time it showed one leg or am I missing
something from trick Photography?
I'm usually not that thick but I suppose like Shakespeare
you can watch it several times and get something different each time. Susan will understand why the one leg business went over my head. When watching Long John I might take a quick glance at the one leg but my glance was always directed at his face. I'd watch as he'd squint one eye and make it look like he was going to pop the other out at any moment. It was always the face I'd watch as I'd wait for that raspy voice to belt out another humerous line. A friend and I would even try to memorize the many lines and get a real delight out of immitating our hero.
The way Purity would pour him milk when he wasn't looking causing him to discharge it like he was poisoned.
Then he'd have to grab the rum quick before he went into a coma. Bob Newton was something else. From now on I'll try
not to be distracted in one direction and learn what I was taught to do a long time ago and that's to look all around instead of confining you're attention inone direction.
Thanks again for teaching me to be more observant.

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