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Date Posted: 08:26:41 02/27/06 Mon
Author: J. Padley
Subject: Re: How far is too far?
In reply to: Bradley Jayne 's message, "How far is too far?" on 22:06:05 02/23/06 Thu

I can't say I fully agree with the belief that a teacher should NOT discuss disciplinary matters with students, but I also won't say that they should. I DO, however, fully agree with Derek, that all disciplinary matters should be dealt with on an individual basis. I can't say whether I think this teacher went too far or not without knowing exactly what the situation was, what the overall classroom environment is like, and what the teacher's philosophy is. I believe that there are times when the teacher must discuss issues with the class that are not part of the curriculum, whether that be political, social, disciplinary, or otherwise. I also believe that children are brilliant. Fifth graders are not incompetent. An elementary student thinks at just as high level as a 30 y/o rocket scientist, they just don't have the same experiencial background. Also, discussing the issue with the other students might give the teacher some insight as to WHY the student did what he did. Maybe the teacher only disapproved of what the student did because they didn't understand WHY he did it. In the end, though, these issues should be addressed on an individual basis. Every single student and every single situation should be treated differently.

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[> Re: How far is too far? -- Laura, 09:42:54 04/10/06 Mon [1]

I would have to agree with Brad and say that it was very inappropriate for the teacher to speak so openly to a room full of fifth graders. I think that a conversation should take place between the teacher and the student who was being disruptive, however I don't believe that it was neccessary for the teacher to speak to the entire class on the subject. Viewing teachers that I have had in the past, whenever there was a disruptive student the teacher told them to see him or her after class and of course we carried on with our lesson. It's important not to let other students interfere with learning.


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