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Date Posted: 08:27:52 05/13/06 Sat
Author: Devin Bramel
Subject: Re: Bad Kiddies
In reply to: Derek 's message, "Bad Kiddies" on 09:52:13 05/02/06 Tue

I would agree with Amanda that it is essential to determine, if possible, what is causing certain students to act out in some classes yet behave perfectly well in others. Any number of factors could be an issue: is the student not reacting well to the teacher's style of teaching, does the student harbor some resentment or other feelings of ill will toward the teacher, has the teacher inadvertently offended the student in some way, does the student have problems at home that must be discussed between teacher, principal, and parents, etc.

I also agree that it is important that gossip about students that is passed from teacher to teacher does not affect a teacher's predisposition toward a student. In my junior block experience, several times I heard my cooperating teacher talking with other teachers, in which they would discuss how certain students act in class. While this is not necessarily a bad thing, since it can give teachers the heads-up on any problems that the student might be bringing to class that day, in my opinion it becomes a problem when teachers use these discussions to talk poorly of students without offering any sort of constructive aspect to the discussion. Talking about these things in the hopes of finding a productive solution is never a bad idea, in my opinion; talking for the sake of detailing how unruly a student may be without offering any positive suggestions is a problem.

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[> Re: Bad Kiddies -- Honoree, 18:42:58 04/29/07 Sun [1]

I do not think that the students should be taken out of the ensemble especially if they are doing well. It is possible that the other teachers could collaborate with the teacher of the ensemble in which the students are excelling, and try to find a way to incorporate this other information into the ensemble which they enjoy. The ensemble experience may in the end help the students to do better in their other classes. I do not see any positive effects of removing the student from the ensemble. This action will only make the students upset, as they are being removed from the class at which they excel.

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