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Subject: Illuminatti


Author:
rosy
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Date Posted: 20:24:32 06/10/04 Thu

As I did not know anything about the Illuminatti I had a search today.

Oh boy! That is scarey stuff.

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Author:
StClair (administrator)
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Date Posted: 17:39:58 06/11/04 Fri

Look up the Priory of Sion.

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[> [> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
StClair (administrator)
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Date Posted: 17:55:35 06/11/04 Fri

Unfortunately, no-one knows anything about the Illuminati fraternity. There is one organisation that knows about who, what and why. The Illuminati. And we can't ask them.

The Priory of Sion is possibly the public (albeit secret) organisation that fronts the elusive group.

But I doubt it.

Another possibility is that they never existed. Many call them the elite of our nations. Well....since when is secrecy, intrique and a general non-knowledge of their existance, a prerequisite of an elite force?

Well....since always. From the Rosicrucians to the Freemasons to the denial of advanced technologies.

There is much to study about the Priory of Sion. And what you study is often genuine. There is nothing concrete to say about the Illuminati.

.....and they know that.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
StClair (administrator)
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Date Posted: 19:03:45 06/11/04 Fri

One list of ancient familys is of importance to you if you wish to study the illuminati. Personaly, I believe that the list is erronious and is indicitive of typical disinformation. If the Illuminati were as powerful and secretive as certain people would have us believe then this list can't be real. There is only one name on it that this administrator would pay close attention.

Astor
Bundy
Collins
DuPont
Freeman
Kennedy
Li
Onassis
Rockefeller
Rothschild
Russell
van Duyn
Merovingian

This list is compiled by independent researchers. My own list would run differently. WIth one exception.

Another list of independant research:

Mellon
Carnegie
Rothschild
Rockefeller
Duke
Astor
Dorrance
Reynoldse
Stiliman
Baker
Pyne
Cuilman
Watson
Tuke
Kleinwort
DuPont
Warburg
Phippse
Grace
Guggenheim
Milner
Drexel
Winthrop
Vanderbilt
Whitney

My own list would add to the above names, the following:

Saunier
StClair (sinclair)
Montgomery
Merovingian lines
Stewart

The countries I suggest you study would have to be Portugal, Scotland, France, England, Germany and the USA. (all the USA families mentioned all come from France, Germany, Scotland and other european countries).

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
YisraeL
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Date Posted: 00:02:44 04/28/05 Thu

>One list of ancient familys is of importance to you if
>you wish to study the illuminati. Personaly, I believe
>that the list is erronious and is indicitive of
>typical disinformation. If the Illuminati were as
>powerful and secretive as certain people would have us
>believe then this list can't be real. There is only
>one name on it that this administrator would pay close
>attention.
>
>Astor
>Bundy
>Collins
>DuPont
>Freeman
>Kennedy
>Li
>Onassis
>Rockefeller
>Rothschild
>Russell
>van Duyn
>Merovingian
>
>This list is compiled by independent researchers. My
>own list would run differently. WIth one exception.
>
>Another list of independant research:
>
>Mellon
>Carnegie
>Rothschild
>Rockefeller
>Duke
>Astor
>Dorrance
>Reynoldse
>Stiliman
>Baker
>Pyne
>Cuilman
>Watson
>Tuke
>Kleinwort
>DuPont
>Warburg
>Phippse
>Grace
>Guggenheim
>Milner
>Drexel
>Winthrop
>Vanderbilt
>Whitney
>
>My own list would add to the above names, the
>following:
>
>Saunier
>StClair (sinclair)
>Montgomery
>Merovingian lines
>Stewart
>One expressed this to me!Seems to me to strong to argue with if you know the covenant of the brides excepting ancient family names and laws.
>The countries I suggest you study would have to be
>Portugal, Scotland, France, England, Germany and the
>USA. (all the USA families mentioned all come from
>France, Germany, Scotland and other european
>countries).
ancient famaliy names such as Yisrael are NOT allowed do to their differences in laws and ethics; for example a nation is a family such as some individuals carry the names of towns and the towns people come from endorseing certain laws, families endorse certian laws past down. .seeing these actions there is no need in wondering what secret actions or words evovle in these occult groups, it's simple the lenght of time their functions have went shows in evovling actions of the evil intent of their secrect shame.Yisrael was a man with a family which is a nation and so his concepts and family law is passed down, thus given time you can also see the intent of this nation (family) by their evolution of acts. Seeing this is true then there is no need ot listen with your ears ,but rather listen with your eyes. the Unholy American(family) is clearly seen by thier following Rome's (family)which stealthicly murders Yisrael's family to the very end. Telling you nothing about their mystery of lawlessness which for centuries (ancient) have used disinformation to act as a wolf in sheep's clothing. Yisrael (israel)is time to kill rome's groups such as america which murder useing the lie of peace and anti-YahweH's laws given to proper family rules and regulations. Are you totally confused by the mystery of lawlessness...it's a mystery because lawlessness cries loud that it is a good and real law. False law has replaced Yisrael's family law and does not have the wedding that puts the grooms name on it's nation (family). North, Central, South Americans families(nations)of Rome's anti-YahweH laws. In effect you don't see North, Central, nor South Yisrael nations(families) nor truely blessed LaW. Ficton -R -NOT?: What you see is a loud language to be heard.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
irina
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Date Posted: 13:02:55 08/10/04 Tue

i belive that the Illuminatti Fraternity existed.Maybe you can read this book:ANGELS AND DEAMONS by Dan Brown.
Members of this Fraternity: Galileo Galilei,Gianlorenzo Bernini etc.

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Author:
Red Cross
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Date Posted: 10:52:06 10/25/04 Mon

>i belive that the Illuminatti Fraternity existed.Maybe
>you can read this book:ANGELS AND DEAMONS by Dan Brown.
>Members of this Fraternity: Galileo
>Galilei,Gianlorenzo Bernini etc.

I have read 4 of Dan Browns books. They are a good read. But they are fiction.

This is not to say that all of their content is the result of a highly imaginative writer but that the use of "codebreaking" is a literary device employed to give a dynamic to what is basically a "whodunit".

AS for the Illuminatti..... watch this space!!!!

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
wassana
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Date Posted: 04:14:29 12/09/04 Thu

>i belive that the Illuminatti Fraternity existed.Maybe
>you can read this book:ANGELS AND DEAMONS by Dan Brown.
>Members of this Fraternity: Galileo
>Galilei,Gianlorenzo Bernini etc.

dan brown's book is a damage control. we just learn that the illuminati is a group who want to destroy the catholic church to avange the death of de molay. he shows the illuminati posing bomb which make this group looks like al quaida. but the illuminati is more than that. they want to take over the world. they have already done it.today you can't be president without the consent of this group. may be you should read the protocol of zion to understant these guys

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
dave kelly
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Date Posted: 23:29:11 08/19/05 Fri

>>i belive that the Illuminatti Fraternity existed.Maybe
>>you can read this book:ANGELS AND DEAMONS by Dan
>Brown.
>>Members of this Fraternity: Galileo
>>Galilei,Gianlorenzo Bernini etc.
>
>learn to spell demon before criticizing anyonedan brown's book is a damage control. we just learn
>that the illuminati is a group who want to destroy the
>catholic church to avange the death of de molay. he
>shows the illuminati posing bomb which make this group
>looks like al quaida. but the illuminati is more than
>that. they want to take over the world. they have
>already done it.today you can't be president without
>the consent of this group. may be you should read the
>protocol of zion to understant these guys

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
YISRAEL
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Date Posted: 23:19:05 04/27/05 Wed

>Unfortunately, no-one knows anything about the
>Illuminati fraternity. There is one organisation that
>knows about who, what and why. The Illuminati. And we
>can't ask them.
>
>The Priory of Sion is possibly the public (albeit
>secret) organisation that fronts the elusive group.
>
>But I doubt it.
>
>Another possibility is that they never existed. Many
>call them the elite of our nations. Well....since when
>is secrecy, intrique and a general non-knowledge of
>their existance, a prerequisite of an elite force?
>
>Well....since always. From the Rosicrucians to the
>Freemasons to the denial of advanced technologies.
>
>There is much to study about the Priory of Sion. And
>what you study is often genuine. There is nothing
>concrete to say about the Illuminati.
>
>.....and they know that.
WE DO KNOW the foundation of this occult is set for the destruction of YahweH's proper law with full entent on illuminating man's law over eternal rules and regulations.

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[> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
rosy
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Date Posted: 13:05:10 06/24/04 Thu

Freeman? Tell me more?

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[> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
Louisa
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Date Posted: 17:34:31 08/31/04 Tue

The Illuminati is real. I know. I have experienced the anguish of their torments, pain, and genius. Yes, genius. There are some who have used if for justice and truth, but others are tormented and betray that which all knowledge comes . . . the all knowing! I speak the truth. I read Angels and Demons, and I can personally verify 75% of the books statements as truths. Glory, Glory, Light our way and may the path of light merge with the walkway of truth!

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Author:
Earl
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Date Posted: 17:38:11 08/31/04 Tue

This lady is freeky. I read Angels and Demon, too. It was good, but lets all calm down a little! Illuminati shluminati!

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Louisa
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Date Posted: 17:41:56 08/31/04 Tue

Beware, my son. The illumination will blind those who cannot open their eyes to the truth. Stand strong, be firm, and wander far. Do not mistrust those that only speak the truth of angels. I am forever here as a reminder that the pathway to illumination ends not in darkness but in fear that can become madness! I know. I have lived the wrath of those less knowing. Mi corazon duele por que no hay demasiado luz. No puedo ver sin la luz. Verdad!

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
Lou
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Date Posted: 17:43:07 08/31/04 Tue

Tres palabras: Tu eres Loca!

Yes, I know spanish,too, mi amor.

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[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


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Louisa
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Date Posted: 17:44:45 08/31/04 Tue

Go in peace . . . I will say no more. Even I know that protecting the ignorant is the pathway to light.

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Lou
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Date Posted: 17:46:11 08/31/04 Tue

Then protect yourself and you will see so much frigin light you won't believe it.

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[> [> [> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
Paulo
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Date Posted: 05:36:58 02/10/05 Thu

>hi, my first time in the internet,with reference to the above subject i think that People choose to ignore what they think they cannot understand. Why? Is it the system we're in that trys to blind us,is there a need for a system.Why can't we think without the need of thinking.

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Author:
me
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Date Posted: 22:51:09 04/09/05 Sat

>The Illuminati is real. I know. I have experienced
>the anguish of their torments, pain, and genius. Yes,
>genius. There are some who have used if for justice
>and truth, but others are tormented and betray that
>which all knowledge comes . . . the all knowing! I
>speak the truth. I read Angels and Demons, and I can
>personally verify 75% of the books statements as
>truths. Glory, Glory, Light our way and may the path
>of light merge with the walkway of truth!
wot r u on?

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N/A
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Date Posted: 12:00:30 10/08/04 Fri

>As I did not know anything about the Illuminatti I had
>a search today.
>
>Oh boy! That is scarey stuff.

There is nothing to be afraid of, just be aware of the truth and simply stop being a sucker. As a African American I know that white people never enslaved my ancestors nor were they the ones who murdered off the Indians. Drugs like Crack Cocaine is put into the black community to keep blacks from being a political threat. It was the Illuminati who puts the drugs in our neighborhoods. They are the ones who profited and they are the ones who wrote the HIS-STORY books. The Illuminati are a bloodline that traces back to the pharoahs of Egypt and Africa where free-masonry was practiced by the pharoahs. Bush's bloodline traces back to the pharoahs of Africa and the Ceasars of Rome just like almost every other President in U.S. history. This bloodline has always murdered and enslaved Humans and keep power by using divide and rule and Fear!! Study European History and you will see that the Royal Families murdered and tortured the European people, called them peasants and commoners, threw them in dungeons for not obeying the king or queen, and threw millions of Europeans out of Europe and sent them to the prison territories of Australia and America long before they enslaved blacks and murdered Indians. The Illuminati (made up of numerous royal blueblood families) wanted to re enslave whites in america by trying to re-establish the King as ruler and the white people in America revolted. The King or Illuminati realized that they needed to create a divide and rule situation by creating a war between whites and Indians. The king sent soldiers dressed as settlers in to massacre some Indians. The Indians under attack then turn around and invade the innocent settlers. The settlers now mysteriously under attack by the Indians now run to the King for Guns and Protection and now accept a government controlled by the King for Protection!! This situation is the exact same game the Illuminati is playing on the American people now trying to extort them out of there constitutional rights by plotting the phony 911 terrorist attacks. The Planes hijacked by terrorist armed with PLASTIC BOX CUTTERS hijack 4 planes simultaneously, fly for nearly an hour off course with no transponderance and NORAD doesn't scramble any F-14's? Bush was recieving numerous terrorist warnings involving hi-jacked planes months prior to the 911 attacks and there he is sitting in a classrom in Florida, looking like a puzzled idiot while thousands of Americans are being murdered. The day after the attacks, Bush and Cheney are on national television lying about how they had no clue that terrorist would hijack planes to be used in attacks against Americans!! Not one government official is fired, there was no investigation into the 911 attacks, everyone got more funding and promotions after failing to prevent the attacks, The stock holders of United and American Airline stock bet down on their stock the day prior to the attacks and profited an estimated $19 billion and the patriot act gets passed without anyone reading it which gives the government the power to throw anyone in jail that they see fit without providing any evidence, Now the Illuminati is seizing control of all the world's oil supplies and a pipeline is being constructed across Afghanistan to transport oil and natural gas to be sold to China. Opium production is at record highs in Afghanistan and who stands to profit from all of this criminal activity? THE ILLUMINATI WHICH IS NOTHING BUT A FRATERNITY OF ROYAL BLUE BLOOD CORPORATE CRIMINALS AGAINST HUMANITY!! Bottom-line is......If you are not a blueblood or have any bloodline ties to royalty, you are nothing but a peasant who is to bow down and serve your rulers. The bush family and the Bin-Ladins are distant cousins, Bill Clinton is really a bastard Rockefeller, Colin Powell and Bush are Distant Cousins, Bob Dole and Bill Clinton are Cousins, Bush and Kerry are cousins and Frat 'Brothers of the Skull and Bones Fraternity, The Bush family and the Roosevelt Family are kin, the Queen of England, Colin Powell, And Bush are all kin...John Kerry is directly kin to the King of the Netherlands, and the Presidential candidate with the most royal blood always wins the election. The world is run and controlled by 13 family bloodlines who are all kin to one another and are direct descendants of the pharoahs of Africa and the Ceasars of Rome. These peoples days are numbered because more and more people are becoming aware of these clowns!! The real reason for the PHONY WAR ON TERROR is to set up a world government which is to be run and controlled by these royal idiots. there are currently 60 nations who will not comply with the U.N. Agenda 21 and sign there sovereingty over to U.N. Control. Iraq, Iran, and North Korea are three of these nations not giving up their sovereignty. The War on terror gives the U.S. a blank check to invade these nations and put in governments that will comply with U.N. Agenda 21 and sign their sovereingty under the control of the U.N. The U.N. is based in the New World (America) in a city called New York. This may give you a better understanding about what George Bush Sr. was talking about when he made his speech about the NEW WORLD ORDER right before the first Gulf War!!

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[> [> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
Red Cross
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Date Posted: 12:12:17 10/25/04 Mon


>>
>>Oh boy! That is scarey stuff.
>
>There is nothing to be afraid of, just be aware of the
>truth and simply stop being a sucker

If everything you say is true we would be suckers not to be scared.

But why do you need to believe in the exsistence of an "Illuminatti".

There are quite "concrete" explanations for all the anti democratic activities of "Global Capital".

Slavery was not unique to the "New World" founded by the Pilgrim Fathers.

Slavery has exsisted in a multitude of countries and for thousands of years. It is done away with when it has no longer any Economic/Social/Military/Political benefit to the "rising" class"

Every continent has a history where slavery features. Sometimes it is a fundamental feature, sometimes of marginal significance, except for those enslaved.

As for the oil industry, and for any other business, global, multinatioal or domestic, be it large or small,OF COURSE they plan, predict,influence.

Their shareholders expect no less and mangement do get handsomely paid for doing so.

But the bigger the business, it seems, the bigger the anti- democratic acts of corruption.

The following is a quote from "The Guardian"

"Cheney oil firm widens Iraq role"

Oliver Burkeman in Washington
Thursday May 8, 2003
The Guardian

Halliburton, the company formerly run by the US vice-president, Dick Cheney, has been granted a far broader role in Iraq than previously disclosed and is already operating oilfields in the country, the US army admitted yesterday.

See link for more.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,951313,00.html

It is simple really.

The wealthy want to be even more wealthy.
Their wealth has been accumulated through exploitation.
Most of the time that exploitation is done with the sanction of the state/states.
Sometimes the state sanctions something the people don't sanction eg the over Iraq.

What you have is Global Capitalism operating within the constraint of "Liberal Democracy" in developed countries, where we do have a say, however limited, and in other less democratic countries whose economic/ political/ social/ cultural/militarist systems require different sets of rules in which they can maximise their profits.

It's not the illuminatti it is the logic of "capital"

Sorry to the "owner of this sitwe for going on for so long about this but I agree with the poster who said "nonsense"

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[> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
Jacob
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Date Posted: 20:19:11 10/24/04 Sun

WHAT A LOT OF NONSENSE!!!!

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[> Subject: Re: Illuminatti


Author:
Jacob Montgomery
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Date Posted: 14:32:57 10/25/04 Mon

Well....before I continue, I should point out that it now looks as if I am calling red cross's point of view a load of nonsense. This is a mistake. The nonsense comes before the above message.

That said....here is my tuppence worth:

Slavery is not a white/black problem. It is a human problem. We always enslaved our enemy The whites did it to the whites, the blacks did it to the blacks, the native americans did it to each other and as the world got smaller, we were all able to do it to each other.

I do not consider George Bush to be intelligent enough to be part of any illuminated conspiricy and I see a world full of true problems without having to resort to the imaginings of hidden problems.

I also do not consider george bush to be simply a pawn in the illuminati's circle. He has shown that he has individual power and is not at the call of the senate. Unlike many presidents.

Presidents come and go.....the senate remains.

It was Bush and his brother and family that made sure that he stole the seat. It was Bush that declared "I am a war president" and it was Bush who went to War on the basis of faulty intelligence.

Faulty intelligence is not what I would normally associate with Illuminated minds.

As for the "descended from royalty" claptrap. I and my family are descended from royalty. Are you scared of me?

My mum would not hurt a fly. But she is illuminated.

The people that you accuse of being illuminati, appear to us as being extraordinarily stupid. That is a bit of a paradox.

If a person on a forum can guess who they are.....then the illuminatus are not very bright.

You claim that Angels and Demons is 75% true. On what basis do you derive this figure? Angles and Demons is neither very good, nor very accurate. You can tell us "personally" that most of it is accurate?

Go on then...convince us.

I am a ROyal Arch Freemason. I have been approached by the Rosicrucian brotherhood and I have been asked to attend the initiations of the Knights Templar fraternity. I have held the original rosicrucian manifesto (fama fraternitatis) and I was educated in Kilwinning (any masonic, templar, grail-lore historian will understand that) and I possess items that belonged to kings. I live on land owned by medieval Grand masters and regularly visit the site of Mount Heredom. I have an extensive private collection of antiquities and antiquarian books.

I also possess the Key.

With all that....I can assure you that I know personally that Angels and Demons is fiction.

What do you have that can convince someone of my stature that your theory is correct?

Arrogantly yours,
Jacobus XVI

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Author:
Eric the Wee Beastie
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Date Posted: 02:31:06 11/02/04 Tue

This forum could be great if paranoid (yet informative) people would calm down.

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Author:
R.ALFONSO
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Date Posted: 00:47:49 03/08/05 Tue

>This forum could be great if paranoid (yet
>informative) people would calm down.
DO YOU BELIEVE THE GREAT ONE IS ON THIS PLANET WAITING?
IF SO HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE HIM

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Author:
Ricardo S, Alfonso
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Date Posted: 01:17:43 03/08/05 Tue

>>This forum could be great if paranoid (yet
>>informative) people would calm down.
>DO YOU BELIEVE THE GREAT ONE IS ON THIS PLANET WAITING?
>IF SO HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE HIM
ONE FINAL QUESTION? there are three things of Ancient old
which are Gateways to one gate. an Elder one would know this
iF he is in truth an "ILLUMINATUS"
a Bloodline member as myself passed from generations to generation in truth holds this answer.
tell me Brothers of Illuminatus:
which are the gateways to one GATE?

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Author:
thelordjehovah
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Date Posted: 01:38:55 11/21/04 Sun

> I also possess the Key.


What is the key my son?

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Author:
me
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Date Posted: 22:56:45 04/09/05 Sat

>> I also possess the Key.
>
>
>What is the key my son?
nutcase!

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