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Subject: Re: 自由派基督教信經 Liberal Christian Creed


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Clement LO
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Date Posted: 09:04:11 04/01/05 Fri
In reply to: Liberal 's message, "自由派基督教信經 Liberal Christian Creed" on 22:22:24 03/31/05 Thu

其實,經驗事實是可以驗證的事實,
如果信經包括了對這些事實的陳述,
我覺得有點怪。

通常是純粹屬於信/信心的東西,
才寫在信經中的。
例如第一條,就特別多說明,其實不好,
而且信經最重要是精練,容易背誦



>《使徒信經》及《彌吉亞信經》為傳統基督宗教群設下信仰定?>q。但自由派基督教內部存在異質性,很難為自由派基督教設下
>定義性的信經。而設立定義性信經的行動本身又為神學探索設?>U關卡,實非必要。話雖如此,自由派也有一定的共通特徵可供
>辨認。以下是可行的「自由派基督教信經」,大致上描述了自?>悇ㄚH仰的共通特徵。
>
>
>Christianity Facts
>
>1. Jesus was a man born of human parents and was not
>born of a virgin. As it happens, the Greek
>translators had made a mistake. When they were
>translating the Hebrew writings into the Greek
>Septuagint and similar translations, they converted
>the Hebrew word "almah" as the Greek equivalent of our
>English word for virgin. "Almah" appears 9 other times
>in the Hebrew Scriptures; in each case it means "young
>woman". When the scriptures referred to a virgin (and
>they do over 50 times) they always used the Hebrew
>word "betulah". So, Isaiah appears to have referred
>to a young woman becoming pregnant (a rather ordinary
>event).
>
>2. Mark, Matthew, Luke or John never existed. The
>Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not
>written by Jesus' disciples but by person or persons
>whose names are unknown decades after Jesus' death in
>30 CE.
>
>3. The Bible is not inerrant. Many passages in the
>Gospels and Epistles of the Christian Scriptures (New
>Testament) contain religious propaganda, beliefs
>unique to the author and his/her faith group, words
>created by the authors and attributed to Jesus,
>stories of events that never happened, material picked
>up from surrounding Pagan cultures, etc.
>
>4. The resurrection story concludes that the earliest
>followers of Jesus knew nothing about the
>resurrection. Paul believed that Jesus had a passive
>role in his resurrection. He was raised by God into
>heaven, housed in a spirit body. His physical body
>rotted. The story of the tomb, its stone, the angels,
>men and women at the tomb, of Jesus meeting, talking
>and eating with his followers, etc. is a myth, a
>legend created by various Christian movements many
>decades after Jesus' execution. That saga became
>captured in the four canonical gospels at different
>stages in its development. The early belief, that
>Jesus was raised in a spirit body, blends with the
>later myth that Jesus rose himself, in his original
>body. Echoes of both beliefs are seen in the gospels.
>
>4. There was no literal Adam and Eve. The story of
>Adam and Eve is simply a biblical myth. The earth is
>over 4.5 billion years of age in a Universe which is
>over 13.5 billion years of age. Life evolved. Few
>liberal Christians believe that the events described
>in the first part of Genesis really happened as
>described. The text of Genesis was derived from
>earlier pagan writings of nearby societies. Although
>not literally true, the myths of Genesis still contain
>many thought-provoking passages.
>
>5. There was no world-wide flood, no Noah and no ark.
> The story of Noah and the ark is simply a biblical
>myth. The Chaldean Flood Tablets from the city of Ur
>in what is now Southern Iraq, describe how the
>Babylonian God Ea destroyed all of the men, women,
>children, babies and infants by a world-wide flood. A
>comparison of the story on these tablets with the
>Bible indicates that the writer(s) of the story of
>Noah clearly copied the earlier Babylonian text. There
>is some indication that the inspiration for the flood
>stories was a massive series of floods in Ur and
>surrounding areas circa 2800 BCE. The flood stories
>are simply charming myths. Noah never exited nor did
>the ark.
>
>6. There is no need to be "saved". God loves all
>people universally.
>
>7. Morality is of the highest importance - but for
>us, not for God. - Albert Einstein
>
>http://s94260851.onlinehome.us/Liberal%20Christians/chr
>istianityfacts.html

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