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Subject: 消除性傾向歧視的僱傭實務守則

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Date Posted: 17:20:47 03/21/05 Mon

My post responding to the wicked lies in the letter opposing having law to protect some individuals from being discriminated against got deleted from Christian times.

It is obviously that there are bigots in Christian Times who are afraid of the truth.

From the website of 民政事務局. They have issued a guideline and try to use education instead of legislation to reduce discrimination based on sexual orientation.

It has obviously failed. As there are many bigots who distorted the meaning of sexual orientation, and tried to smear campaign against the identifiable group of individuals that these church going bigots hated.

You could check the link for yourself. The guideline was established in 1998. 7 years later, there are still as many hatred filled Christians who spread lies.

http://www.hab.gov.hk/tc/policy_responsibilities/the_rights_of_the_individuals/sexual.htm

香港特別行政區政府民政事務局釋義 "性傾向"

性傾向” 指異性戀（性方面傾向於異性）、同性戀（性方面傾向於同性）和雙性戀（性方面同時傾向於同性和異性）

香港特別行政區政府民政事務局釋義 "歧視"

"歧視 "指基於性傾向，或根據傳統觀念所認定的性傾向，而作出的任何區別、排斥、限制或優惠，其目的或結果是要消除或損害人權和自由。這並不包括為協助不同性傾向人士克服不利條件而自發地採取的各項符合促進平等機會精神的措施。值得注意的是，凡基於下列原因而給予不同人士不同的待遇，都不構成歧視：

其用意是合理而客觀的；

是為了達成某項合乎法理的目的；及

有關待遇的水平與所要達成的目的相稱。

本守則由香港特別行政區政府民政事務局編製，旨在協助僱傭雙方自我規管，以消除僱傭範疇中的歧視措施和行為，並促進人人無分性傾向而享有平等的就業機會，以及重申政府對消除一切形式歧視的承諾。這個承諾建基於以下信念－

人人皆生而平等，並擁有與生俱來的天賦權利在生活的各方面享有平等機會，無分性傾向或任何其他身分。這是《公民權利和政治權利國際公約》、《基本法》和《人權法案》的基本原則；

人人皆有權享有公平合理的工作條件，按工作表現而獲得應有的報酬，享有平等的競爭機會去獲得棲身之所，並有同等權利享用各種設施。基於性傾向而剝奪他們這些權利，就如其他形式的歧視一樣，在道德上是錯誤的，而且是不合理的；

不同性傾向的人士都必須履行所有作為公民的一般義務和責任，並且跟其他人一樣，以同樣的方式為社會作出同樣程度的貢獻。他們都應該享有人類應得的尊重和體諒；及

歧視代價高昂：某些機構如果只因某些人的性傾向不同而不讓他們獲得聘用或晉升機會，便等於自行放棄聘得和保留最佳人才的優勢。在競爭激烈的市場裏，這些機構的做法無異於自設障礙，令自己無法取得更佳的業績和獲取更大的利潤。

I don't know what these hatred filled church going Christians have against mutual respect, or against people having the most basic human rights.

These so-called-Christians have already shown that they don't believe 人人皆生而平等, they believed they have the right to judge, hatred, and get away with actions that caused harm, all in the name of religious freedom.

How far would we allow hatred to spread in the name of religion, or worst, in the name of Jesus?

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Bigots in Christian Times... Liberal 19:01:35 03/21/05 Mon

Re: Bigots in Christian Times... -- Clement LO, 14:11:27 03/22/05 Tue

No need to "fight" in fact... -- Liberal, 14:19:51 03/22/05 Tue

Re: Bigots in Christian Times... -- 天力, 01:40:44 03/24/05 Thu
Re: Bigots in Christian Times... -- 天力, 01:44:06 03/24/05 Thu

Re: Bigots in Christian Times... -- XOX, 09:37:50 03/24/05 Thu

Deleted again that prejudice is learned XOX 14:02:30 03/22/05 Tue

Re: Deleted again that prejudice is learned -- Clement LO, 14:10:05 03/22/05 Tue

RE: 錯誤的理念必須澄清 by 不思 XOX 14:07:23 03/22/05 Tue

Re: RE: 錯誤的理念必須澄清 by 不思 -- 天力, 09:38:27 03/24/05 Thu

Re: RE: 錯誤的理念必須澄清 by 不思 -- XOX, 17:43:25 03/24/05 Thu

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>My post responding to the wicked lies in the letter >opposing having law to protect some individuals from >being discriminated against got deleted from Christian >times. > >It is obviously that there are bigots in Christian >Times who are afraid of the truth. > >From the website of 民政事務局. They have issued >a guideline and try to use education instead of >legislation to reduce discrimination based on sexual >orientation. > >It has obviously failed. As there are many bigots who >distorted the meaning of sexual orientation, and tried >to smear campaign against the identifiable group of >individuals that these church going bigots hated. > >You could check the link for yourself. The guideline >was established in 1998. 7 years later, there are >still as many hatred filled Christians who spread >lies. > >http://www.hab.gov.hk/tc/policy_responsibilities/the_ri >ghts_of_the_individuals/sexual.htm > > >香港特別行政區政府民政事務局釋義 "性傾 >向" > >性傾向” 指異性戀（性方面傾向於異性）、 >同性戀（性方面傾向於同性）和雙性戀（性 >方面同時傾向於同性和異性） > >香港特別行政區政府民政事務局釋義 "歧視" > >"歧視 "指基於性傾向，或根據傳統觀念所認 >定的性傾向，而作出的任何區別、排斥、限 >制或優惠，其目的或結果是要消除或損害 >人權和自由。這並不包括為協助不同性傾向 >人士克服不利條件而自發地採取的各項符 >合促進平等機會精神的措施。值得注意的 >是，凡基於下列原因而給予不同人士不同的 >待遇，都不構成歧視： > >其用意是合理而客觀的； > >是為了達成某項合乎法理的目的；及 > >有關待遇的水平與所要達成的目的相稱。 > >本守則由香港特別行政區政府民政事務局 >編製，旨在協助僱傭雙方自我規管，以消除 >僱傭範疇中的歧視措施和行為，並促進人 >人無分性傾向而享有平等的就業機會，以 >及重申政府對消除一切形式歧視的承諾。這 >個承諾建基於以下信念－ > > 人人皆生而平等，並擁有與生俱來的天賦 >權利在生活的各方面享有平等機會，無分 >性傾向或任何其他身分。這是《公民權利和 >政治權利國際公約》、《基本法》和《人權法 >案》的基本原則； > >人人皆有權享有公平合理的工作條件，按 >工作表現而獲得應有的報酬，享有平等的 >競爭機會去獲得棲身之所，並有同等權利 >享用各種設施。基於性傾向而剝奪他們這 >些權利，就如其他形式的歧視一樣，在道德 >上是錯誤的，而且是不合理的； > > >不同性傾向的人士都必須履行所有作為公 >民的一般義務和責任，並且跟其他人一樣， >以同樣的方式為社會作出同樣程度的貢 >獻。他們都應該享有人類應得的尊重和體 >諒；及 > > >歧視代價高昂：某些機構如果只因某些人 >的性傾向不同而不讓他們獲得聘用或晉升 >機會，便等於自行放棄聘得和保留最佳人 >才的優勢。在競爭激烈的市場裏，這些機構 >的做法無異於自設障礙，令自己無法取得 >更佳的業績和獲取更大的利潤。 > >I don't know what these hatred filled church going >Christians have against mutual respect, or against >people having the most basic human rights. > >These so-called-Christians have already shown that >they don't believe 人人皆生而平等, they believed >they have the right to judge, hatred, and get away >with actions that caused harm, all in the name of >religious freedom. > >How far would we allow hatred to spread in the name of >religion, or worst, in the name of Jesus?
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