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Subject: Re: "Heresy"


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Clement LO
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Date Posted: 00:58:16 02/04/05 Fri
In reply to: Liberal 's message, ""Heresy"" on 12:10:07 02/03/05 Thu
 異端是相對於「正統」的。

能為「正統」畫出界線，界線外的就都是「異端」－－或者起碼是具備了「異端」元素。


對於你第一句，我要補充：新教本身也是天主教的異端。

正統同異端有時是好朋友，要互相利用。又是根據黑格爾的主人與奴隸的邏輯，主人沒有奴隸就不能成為主人，主人因而依賴於奴隸；不通過批判異端，正統就無法確立自身為正統，正統也因而依賴於異端。

當「正統」擴闊時，天主教同新教可以合一。
當「正統」收窄時，天主教同新教就互為異端。

對於你第二句，我要補充：荒謬性都是從基督教正統的內部系統去講，還是從別的甚麼標準去講？如果人家的女基督是む如基督徒常說的め「超越理性」或「超越邏輯」呢？如果人家的女基督要憑信心接受呢？

對於你第三句，我要補充：也有些宗教，最後衰亡，要麼被別的神祇代替，要麼就是受到社會－政治局勢左右。

現實是：不是甚麼荒謬的都有人信。
使人躍過荒謬的，是宗教上的某些理由，如果不具備這些理由，那麼荒謬本身並不生發信心。


>The act of "heresy"-labelling involves power struggles
>within a religion and cannot be understood in a
>simplistic manner. For example, Martin Luther and
>John Calvin were called heretics at their time; and
>Christianity itself certainly emerged as a heresy of
>Judaism!
>
>It may be adequate just to point out the absurditiy of
>the claims and teachings of that "female Christ".
>
>It is also interesting to observe and investigate why
>every religious cult or sect, no matter how
>unimaginably absurd its claims are, has its followers.
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