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Subject: Re: 不相信使徒信經的牧師


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Date Posted: 02:42:32 07/31/04 Sat
In reply to: 富豪 's message, "Re: 不相信使徒信經的牧師" on 01:10:46 07/31/04 Sat
 >首先，我們必須清晰：
>"牧師是信上帝是天地的創造者，也相信使徒信經的內容"
>這句子是否套套邏輯．
>
>若是，句子的謂語應該在主語裡不辯自明．
>(謂語:是信上帝是天地的創造者，也相信使徒信經的內容
>主語：牧師)
>
>因此，"不信上帝是天地的創造者，也不相信使徒信經的內容"?>O與牧師一詞有矛盾．
>也因此，該人不能再是牧師．

牧師作為真誠的真理追尋者,可以挑戰傳統信經,所以相信使徒信經不是當牧師的必要條件,事實上拒絕信經的牧師大有人在 (eg. Rev John S. Spong).那句不是套套邏輯.


>今次，我首先認同人要誠實，但為何"珍惜真誠者的教會則不應
>純以教義定義教內外或是否勝任牧師的界線"？

因為那樣做需要拋棄(不珍惜)真誠挑戰教義者.


有一位學生真誠
>地指出校政的不是，作為專業的老師仍要教導及愛護佢，但能?>_因他是真誠的學生，老師便能不以校規為這學生定操行分？此
>外，該牧師及學生真誠的指控不一定是真相．

如果學生指控校規不是,如果指控乃真,老師以不是的校規徵罰學生便是錯.
對,也不一定是假相.


>其次，教義不是唯一標準，Matching with doctrine is
>necessary but not
>sufficient，你所提的實際處境也就是其他考慮．

I would say matching with doctrine is unnecessary, because doctrine is theory, not necessarily true.


>對，　耶穌教我要愛人如己，包括非信徒．但耶穌也沒有稱法?>Q賽人為自己的門徒啊

因為法利賽人假冒為善;不要忘記耶穌卻說不認識他的好人有永生(太25).
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