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Date Posted: 11:36:30 09/11/05 Sun
Author: Anonymous
Subject: Millie Lewis

HIDDEN FEES
Letter from Parent:
The cost to attend the Millie Lewis AMTC is around "$1,700." ($1,700). This includes three categories. Each additional category is $100. These are said to be optional, but you are also told the more categories you enter the better your chances. The $1,700 does not include the cost of the hotel, which is around $150-$200 a night. YOU HAVE to stay in the hotel where the convention is located. The convention lasts six days. Total hotel expense: $900-$1,200. ($3,900) You are told there are no hidden costs. But you must pay $100 per pass per person if you want to watch the convention. ($4,000) You pay around $600 for pictures that you have to take to the AMTC. ($4,600) The AMTC book is $35. ($4,635) I think you pay for the AMTC shirt, too. ($4,650) You must pay for your travel, food, etc. ($5,000) On the sheet they provide you are told you won't have to invest in the clothes you must wear at the convention, but when you take your clothes to the "wardrobe" check you will learn something different. You are led to believe that the $1,700 will cover everything until you pay your $500 deposit, and you get your information on the AMTC. You can't get the information until you pay the deposit. Also, you are told that you can make payments on this. You are even given a payment plan. After they get your $500, they tell you to forget about the payment plan. You can't get your money back, either. Let's say something happens and you can't attend, or you have paid for half of it, and something comes up. You have just lost your money. The total cost, roughly speaking, is around $5,000. This is when you add everything together. It's probably more than that if you take a closer look.

-- Parent by email (2002)

My experience with Millie Lewis International was similar to the other parental letter. Fortunately, having some experience with another company, I knew no money should have been immediately due. Also, I have a real big problem with someone trying to "convince" me of their honesty and integrity... it should automatically come through.

After attending a convention with my daughter and the competitors reading a line or two we were then shown a film and success stories. At the end of the program we were told the cost of the convention was "1795" or "seventeen-ninety-five." My daughter thought she meant $17.95, because she made it a point to repeatedly not say "seventeen-hundred-and-ninety-five" dollars.

We were then told that a $500 deposit would be due today if you were called back. Well ultimately she was called. When I told them that there was no possibility of having the money today, they thanked me and asked us to come another time.

After reading how the cost grew I am ever appreciative that we did not put down the money, since it would have inevitably been lost.

Thank you for posting the comments because in the program they tell you to check them out at the Better Business Bureau, but I found that link to be uninformative.

-- Parent by email (2004)
PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHY
At least four parents who paid for their children to attend the Millie Lewis American Modeling & Talent Convention said they paid for professional photography prior to the convention. This was at the advice of or it was a requirement of AMTC. According to the above email excerpt, "You pay around $600 for pictures that you have to take to the AMTC."

This is a total violation of modeling industry standards. Agents and experts all advise against spending money on professional photography, comp cards, and portfolios before you get representation with a modeling agency. Furthermore, the price AMTC charges is far in excess of what those who do have representation should pay.

As if the entire convention was not expensive enough with the admission price, hotel expense, travel costs, and everything else, they throw in another $600 for "professional" photos and prints, which incidentally, many agents don't need, many times don't want, and, may, in fact, toss out.

If you visit the websites of the agencies whose agents supposedly attend AMTC, you can find out for yourself what type of pictures they want and don't want.

According to one parent who paid ML for professional pictures prior to AMTC, the photographer was on staff at a Millie Lewis agency, yet he was not even a professional photographer, but they were asked to pay professional photography rates!

Therefore the only conclusion is the money parents spend for professional pictures prior to the AMTC is going straight into the pockets of Millie Lewis. For every 1,000 kids who attend AMTC and pay $600 for pictures, $600,000 is going to AMTC, money that may or may not be split with photographers.

TELEMARKETING SCRIPT

Consumer Comments (Feb 2004)

My daughter was so excited, she heard about it on the radio. How could it be a scam? After all it was on her favorite station.

I was not so sure. I didn't want to rain on her parade, so I agreed to keep her out of school for the day and bought her a new outfit.

We went to the audition, but something just did not seem right about it. I didn't say anything to my daughter she was too excited.

Moving on... she did her reading, danced and sang. We had a wonderful time watching all the people get up and show of their talent... or not. Only thing missing was Simon from American Idol.

The next morning the phone rang.

"Good News," said the lady on the line. She has been called back. For the small price of... I said no thanks and hung up.

Now I have the painful task of telling my sweet, talented little girl that it was all a ****.

I do have to say... we had a wonderful time together!

Not sucked in,

Mom in Dallas

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[> Thats why we love Miss Monica from beautiful faces of GA. No classes, and for the entry fee of less than 100.00 she has several agents that see you then, not after you have spent thousands of dollars! -- Anonymous, 17:08:17 09/11/05 Sun [1]

>HIDDEN FEES
>Letter from Parent:
>The cost to attend the Millie Lewis AMTC is around
>"$1,700." ($1,700). This includes three categories.
>Each additional category is $100. These are said to be
>optional, but you are also told the more categories
>you enter the better your chances. The $1,700 does not
>include the cost of the hotel, which is around
>$150-$200 a night. YOU HAVE to stay in the hotel where
>the convention is located. The convention lasts six
>days. Total hotel expense: $900-$1,200. ($3,900) You
>are told there are no hidden costs. But you must pay
>$100 per pass per person if you want to watch the
>convention. ($4,000) You pay around $600 for pictures
>that you have to take to the AMTC. ($4,600) The AMTC
>book is $35. ($4,635) I think you pay for the AMTC
>shirt, too. ($4,650) You must pay for your travel,
>food, etc. ($5,000) On the sheet they provide you are
>told you won't have to invest in the clothes you must
>wear at the convention, but when you take your clothes
>to the "wardrobe" check you will learn something
>different. You are led to believe that the $1,700 will
>cover everything until you pay your $500 deposit, and
>you get your information on the AMTC. You can't get
>the information until you pay the deposit. Also, you
>are told that you can make payments on this. You are
>even given a payment plan. After they get your $500,
>they tell you to forget about the payment plan. You
>can't get your money back, either. Let's say something
>happens and you can't attend, or you have paid for
>half of it, and something comes up. You have just lost
>your money. The total cost, roughly speaking, is
>around $5,000. This is when you add everything
>together. It's probably more than that if you take a
>closer look.
>
>-- Parent by email (2002)
>
>My experience with Millie Lewis International was
>similar to the other parental letter. Fortunately,
>having some experience with another company, I knew no
>money should have been immediately due. Also, I have a
>real big problem with someone trying to "convince" me
>of their honesty and integrity... it should
>automatically come through.
>
>After attending a convention with my daughter and the
>competitors reading a line or two we were then shown a
>film and success stories. At the end of the program we
>were told the cost of the convention was "1795" or
>"seventeen-ninety-five." My daughter thought she meant
>$17.95, because she made it a point to repeatedly not
>say "seventeen-hundred-and-ninety-five" dollars.
>
>We were then told that a $500 deposit would be due
>today if you were called back. Well ultimately she was
>called. When I told them that there was no possibility
>of having the money today, they thanked me and asked
>us to come another time.
>
>After reading how the cost grew I am ever appreciative
>that we did not put down the money, since it would
>have inevitably been lost.
>
>Thank you for posting the comments because in the
>program they tell you to check them out at the Better
>Business Bureau, but I found that link to be
>uninformative.
>
>-- Parent by email (2004)
>PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHY
>At least four parents who paid for their children to
>attend the Millie Lewis American Modeling & Talent
>Convention said they paid for professional photography
>prior to the convention. This was at the advice of or
>it was a requirement of AMTC. According to the above
>email excerpt, "You pay around $600 for pictures that
>you have to take to the AMTC."
>
>This is a total violation of modeling industry
>standards. Agents and experts all advise against
>spending money on professional photography, comp
>cards, and portfolios before you get representation
>with a modeling agency. Furthermore, the price AMTC
>charges is far in excess of what those who do have
>representation should pay.
>
>As if the entire convention was not expensive enough
>with the admission price, hotel expense, travel costs,
>and everything else, they throw in another $600 for
>"professional" photos and prints, which incidentally,
>many agents don't need, many times don't want, and,
>may, in fact, toss out.
>
>If you visit the websites of the agencies whose agents
>supposedly attend AMTC, you can find out for yourself
>what type of pictures they want and don't want.
>
>According to one parent who paid ML for professional
>pictures prior to AMTC, the photographer was on staff
>at a Millie Lewis agency, yet he was not even a
>professional photographer, but they were asked to pay
>professional photography rates!
>
>Therefore the only conclusion is the money parents
>spend for professional pictures prior to the AMTC is
>going straight into the pockets of Millie Lewis. For
>every 1,000 kids who attend AMTC and pay $600 for
>pictures, $600,000 is going to AMTC, money that may or
>may not be split with photographers.
>
>TELEMARKETING SCRIPT
>
>Consumer Comments (Feb 2004)
>
>My daughter was so excited, she heard about it on the
>radio. How could it be a scam? After all it was on her
>favorite station.
>
>I was not so sure. I didn't want to rain on her
>parade, so I agreed to keep her out of school for the
>day and bought her a new outfit.
>
>We went to the audition, but something just did not
>seem right about it. I didn't say anything to my
>daughter she was too excited.
>
>Moving on... she did her reading, danced and sang. We
>had a wonderful time watching all the people get up
>and show of their talent... or not. Only thing missing
>was Simon from American Idol.
>
>The next morning the phone rang.
>
>"Good News," said the lady on the line. She has been
>called back. For the small price of... I said no
>thanks and hung up.
>
>Now I have the painful task of telling my sweet,
>talented little girl that it was all a ****.
>
>I do have to say... we had a wonderful time together!
>
>Not sucked in,
>
>Mom in Dallas


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[> [> We've been in 7 pageants, came across Mrs. Daniels talent and modeling search. My daughter was scouted, it was better then winning a pageant. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Thank you Mrs. Daniels for such a great opportunity for my family. Catherine and Taylor -- Anonymous, 18:30:09 09/11/05 Sun [1]

>>HIDDEN FEES
>>Letter from Parent:
>>The cost to attend the Millie Lewis AMTC is around
>>"$1,700." ($1,700). This includes three categories.
>>Each additional category is $100. These are said to be
>>optional, but you are also told the more categories
>>you enter the better your chances. The $1,700 does not
>>include the cost of the hotel, which is around
>>$150-$200 a night. YOU HAVE to stay in the hotel where
>>the convention is located. The convention lasts six
>>days. Total hotel expense: $900-$1,200. ($3,900) You
>>are told there are no hidden costs. But you must pay
>>$100 per pass per person if you want to watch the
>>convention. ($4,000) You pay around $600 for pictures
>>that you have to take to the AMTC. ($4,600) The AMTC
>>book is $35. ($4,635) I think you pay for the AMTC
>>shirt, too. ($4,650) You must pay for your travel,
>>food, etc. ($5,000) On the sheet they provide you are
>>told you won't have to invest in the clothes you must
>>wear at the convention, but when you take your clothes
>>to the "wardrobe" check you will learn something
>>different. You are led to believe that the $1,700 will
>>cover everything until you pay your $500 deposit, and
>>you get your information on the AMTC. You can't get
>>the information until you pay the deposit. Also, you
>>are told that you can make payments on this. You are
>>even given a payment plan. After they get your $500,
>>they tell you to forget about the payment plan. You
>>can't get your money back, either. Let's say something
>>happens and you can't attend, or you have paid for
>>half of it, and something comes up. You have just lost
>>your money. The total cost, roughly speaking, is
>>around $5,000. This is when you add everything
>>together. It's probably more than that if you take a
>>closer look.
>>
>>-- Parent by email (2002)
>>
>>My experience with Millie Lewis International was
>>similar to the other parental letter. Fortunately,
>>having some experience with another company, I knew no
>>money should have been immediately due. Also, I have a
>>real big problem with someone trying to "convince" me
>>of their honesty and integrity... it should
>>automatically come through.
>>
>>After attending a convention with my daughter and the
>>competitors reading a line or two we were then shown a
>>film and success stories. At the end of the program we
>>were told the cost of the convention was "1795" or
>>"seventeen-ninety-five." My daughter thought she meant
>>$17.95, because she made it a point to repeatedly not
>>say "seventeen-hundred-and-ninety-five" dollars.
>>
>>We were then told that a $500 deposit would be due
>>today if you were called back. Well ultimately she was
>>called. When I told them that there was no possibility
>>of having the money today, they thanked me and asked
>>us to come another time.
>>
>>After reading how the cost grew I am ever appreciative
>>that we did not put down the money, since it would
>>have inevitably been lost.
>>
>>Thank you for posting the comments because in the
>>program they tell you to check them out at the Better
>>Business Bureau, but I found that link to be
>>uninformative.
>>
>>-- Parent by email (2004)
>>PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHY
>>At least four parents who paid for their children to
>>attend the Millie Lewis American Modeling & Talent
>>Convention said they paid for professional photography
>>prior to the convention. This was at the advice of or
>>it was a requirement of AMTC. According to the above
>>email excerpt, "You pay around $600 for pictures that
>>you have to take to the AMTC."
>>
>>This is a total violation of modeling industry
>>standards. Agents and experts all advise against
>>spending money on professional photography, comp
>>cards, and portfolios before you get representation
>>with a modeling agency. Furthermore, the price AMTC
>>charges is far in excess of what those who do have
>>representation should pay.
>>
>>As if the entire convention was not expensive enough
>>with the admission price, hotel expense, travel costs,
>>and everything else, they throw in another $600 for
>>"professional" photos and prints, which incidentally,
>>many agents don't need, many times don't want, and,
>>may, in fact, toss out.
>>
>>If you visit the websites of the agencies whose agents
>>supposedly attend AMTC, you can find out for yourself
>>what type of pictures they want and don't want.
>>
>>According to one parent who paid ML for professional
>>pictures prior to AMTC, the photographer was on staff
>>at a Millie Lewis agency, yet he was not even a
>>professional photographer, but they were asked to pay
>>professional photography rates!
>>
>>Therefore the only conclusion is the money parents
>>spend for professional pictures prior to the AMTC is
>>going straight into the pockets of Millie Lewis. For
>>every 1,000 kids who attend AMTC and pay $600 for
>>pictures, $600,000 is going to AMTC, money that may or
>>may not be split with photographers.
>>
>>TELEMARKETING SCRIPT
>>
>>Consumer Comments (Feb 2004)
>>
>>My daughter was so excited, she heard about it on the
>>radio. How could it be a scam? After all it was on her
>>favorite station.
>>
>>I was not so sure. I didn't want to rain on her
>>parade, so I agreed to keep her out of school for the
>>day and bought her a new outfit.
>>
>>We went to the audition, but something just did not
>>seem right about it. I didn't say anything to my
>>daughter she was too excited.
>>
>>Moving on... she did her reading, danced and sang. We
>>had a wonderful time watching all the people get up
>>and show of their talent... or not. Only thing missing
>>was Simon from American Idol.
>>
>>The next morning the phone rang.
>>
>>"Good News," said the lady on the line. She has been
>>called back. For the small price of... I said no
>>thanks and hung up.
>>
>>Now I have the painful task of telling my sweet,
>>talented little girl that it was all a ****.
>>
>>I do have to say... we had a wonderful time together!
>>
>>Not sucked in,
>>
>>Mom in Dallas


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[> [> [> You don't even have to enter a pagent. We just sent snapshots of our dd and got signed & been working every since. -- Anonymous, 21:30:13 09/11/05 Sun [1]

>>>HIDDEN FEES
>>>Letter from Parent:
>>>The cost to attend the Millie Lewis AMTC is around
>>>"$1,700." ($1,700). This includes three categories.
>>>Each additional category is $100. These are said to
>be
>>>optional, but you are also told the more categories
>>>you enter the better your chances. The $1,700 does
>not
>>>include the cost of the hotel, which is around
>>>$150-$200 a night. YOU HAVE to stay in the hotel
>where
>>>the convention is located. The convention lasts six
>>>days. Total hotel expense: $900-$1,200. ($3,900) You
>>>are told there are no hidden costs. But you must pay
>>>$100 per pass per person if you want to watch the
>>>convention. ($4,000) You pay around $600 for pictures
>>>that you have to take to the AMTC. ($4,600) The AMTC
>>>book is $35. ($4,635) I think you pay for the AMTC
>>>shirt, too. ($4,650) You must pay for your travel,
>>>food, etc. ($5,000) On the sheet they provide you are
>>>told you won't have to invest in the clothes you must
>>>wear at the convention, but when you take your
>clothes
>>>to the "wardrobe" check you will learn something
>>>different. You are led to believe that the $1,700
>will
>>>cover everything until you pay your $500 deposit, and
>>>you get your information on the AMTC. You can't get
>>>the information until you pay the deposit. Also, you
>>>are told that you can make payments on this. You are
>>>even given a payment plan. After they get your $500,
>>>they tell you to forget about the payment plan. You
>>>can't get your money back, either. Let's say
>something
>>>happens and you can't attend, or you have paid for
>>>half of it, and something comes up. You have just
>lost
>>>your money. The total cost, roughly speaking, is
>>>around $5,000. This is when you add everything
>>>together. It's probably more than that if you take a
>>>closer look.
>>>
>>>-- Parent by email (2002)
>>>
>>>My experience with Millie Lewis International was
>>>similar to the other parental letter. Fortunately,
>>>having some experience with another company, I knew
>no
>>>money should have been immediately due. Also, I have
>a
>>>real big problem with someone trying to "convince" me
>>>of their honesty and integrity... it should
>>>automatically come through.
>>>
>>>After attending a convention with my daughter and the
>>>competitors reading a line or two we were then shown
>a
>>>film and success stories. At the end of the program
>we
>>>were told the cost of the convention was "1795" or
>>>"seventeen-ninety-five." My daughter thought she
>meant
>>>$17.95, because she made it a point to repeatedly not
>>>say "seventeen-hundred-and-ninety-five" dollars.
>>>
>>>We were then told that a $500 deposit would be due
>>>today if you were called back. Well ultimately she
>was
>>>called. When I told them that there was no
>possibility
>>>of having the money today, they thanked me and asked
>>>us to come another time.
>>>
>>>After reading how the cost grew I am ever
>appreciative
>>>that we did not put down the money, since it would
>>>have inevitably been lost.
>>>
>>>Thank you for posting the comments because in the
>>>program they tell you to check them out at the Better
>>>Business Bureau, but I found that link to be
>>>uninformative.
>>>
>>>-- Parent by email (2004)
>>>PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHY
>>>At least four parents who paid for their children to
>>>attend the Millie Lewis American Modeling & Talent
>>>Convention said they paid for professional
>photography
>>>prior to the convention. This was at the advice of or
>>>it was a requirement of AMTC. According to the above
>>>email excerpt, "You pay around $600 for pictures that
>>>you have to take to the AMTC."
>>>
>>>This is a total violation of modeling industry
>>>standards. Agents and experts all advise against
>>>spending money on professional photography, comp
>>>cards, and portfolios before you get representation
>>>with a modeling agency. Furthermore, the price AMTC
>>>charges is far in excess of what those who do have
>>>representation should pay.
>>>
>>>As if the entire convention was not expensive enough
>>>with the admission price, hotel expense, travel
>costs,
>>>and everything else, they throw in another $600 for
>>>"professional" photos and prints, which incidentally,
>>>many agents don't need, many times don't want, and,
>>>may, in fact, toss out.
>>>
>>>If you visit the websites of the agencies whose
>agents
>>>supposedly attend AMTC, you can find out for yourself
>>>what type of pictures they want and don't want.
>>>
>>>According to one parent who paid ML for professional
>>>pictures prior to AMTC, the photographer was on staff
>>>at a Millie Lewis agency, yet he was not even a
>>>professional photographer, but they were asked to pay
>>>professional photography rates!
>>>
>>>Therefore the only conclusion is the money parents
>>>spend for professional pictures prior to the AMTC is
>>>going straight into the pockets of Millie Lewis. For
>>>every 1,000 kids who attend AMTC and pay $600 for
>>>pictures, $600,000 is going to AMTC, money that may
>or
>>>may not be split with photographers.
>>>
>>>TELEMARKETING SCRIPT
>>>
>>>Consumer Comments (Feb 2004)
>>>
>>>My daughter was so excited, she heard about it on the
>>>radio. How could it be a scam? After all it was on
>her
>>>favorite station.
>>>
>>>I was not so sure. I didn't want to rain on her
>>>parade, so I agreed to keep her out of school for the
>>>day and bought her a new outfit.
>>>
>>>We went to the audition, but something just did not
>>>seem right about it. I didn't say anything to my
>>>daughter she was too excited.
>>>
>>>Moving on... she did her reading, danced and sang. We
>>>had a wonderful time watching all the people get up
>>>and show of their talent... or not. Only thing
>missing
>>>was Simon from American Idol.
>>>
>>>The next morning the phone rang.
>>>
>>>"Good News," said the lady on the line. She has been
>>>called back. For the small price of... I said no
>>>thanks and hung up.
>>>
>>>Now I have the painful task of telling my sweet,
>>>talented little girl that it was all a ****.
>>>
>>>I do have to say... we had a wonderful time together!
>>>
>>>Not sucked in,
>>>
>>>Mom in Dallas


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