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Nic ole
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Date Posted: 12:26:06 02/13/05 Sun
In reply to: dave 's message, "Thank You Once Again" on 11:08:11 02/13/05 Sun

It sounds like you are comparing your experience to the experience that others were having rather than comparing it to your own. Perhaps there was an incremental expansion in your ability to feel the orgasm of someone on the other side of the room? Perhaps YOU were able to feel a bit more and not exactly what anyone else was feeling but what you are your particular location were feeling. I see a place where you are bumping into difficulties and that is that either you didn't feel what others were feeling and this means something about your ability to feel or else they weren't feeling it. In your post you have created two possibilities and neither one sounds that good.
Maybe there is a third possibility. And maybe its difficult to see because there is pride in the way. Either they are right or you are right. Like Rilke says, maybe there is something fragile in you that opened and you think that that isn't it because it doesn't match the intensity of other people's experience. But maybe they started out just like you and didn't think that they were feeling anything either.
I can tell you that it took me six months, six months!!! to be able to tell the direction that a stroke was happening. I told myself that this was crap that these other people weren't really feeling it, they were just faking it. I was frustrated and pissed. But something kept calling me back. I remember so clearly thinking either I am broken or else these people are crazy.
Now, I can feel nuances of sensation so delicate that five years ago would have gone by completely unnoticed. I can in fact remember people saying "Did you feel that?" and thinking "what?" and getting pissed.
So the question then is, have I been brainwashed into believing that I am feeling things or is there and actual objective occurrence? I think it's a little of both. I think that I have agreed to have some ideas about what is possible washed away to experience something more. Just as in meditation there are these trippy visuals and feelings like I am floating, and electrical shocks- you never could have convinced me of what was there just sitting until I experienced it for myself.
The fact of the matter is that something kept and keeps calling me back. I know in my gut that there is more sensation available than I am willing to feel in this moment and I know also that I have be willing to be uncomfortable admit that I don't know and move through some fear to feel it.
This may not be your experience. That is okay too. I do want you to know though that I appreciate you voicing where you are at and that I suspect that you are speaking of an experience that several felt in the demo and that all of the others who didn't, did at one time and can recognize in themselves.
I also agree that to bring it out in the open, to speak it may actually open something unexpected up.

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for the love of creations unique expressions <mine and yours>laura roc13:58:30 02/13/05 Sun
    justicelaura rock22:01:38 02/13/05 Sun


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