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Mini-Mod ruling -- Frank Samyia, Tue, August 26 2008, 13:22:26 GMT-10 [11]
A mini - mod ruling : the laws state that the defence cannot move forward from the 5m until the ball is in the hands of the first receiver or the dummy half elects to run. So what is the ruling if the dummy half passes the ball to no one, the ball bounces 20m back and a player from the opposing side then runs through, picks up the ball and runs away and scores? ( This created a great deal of fun discussion at our meeting last week )

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- Re: Mini-Mod ruling -- Daniel, Tue, August 26 2008, 23:45:09 GMT-10
  - Re: Mini-Mod ruling -- Greg Pfeiffer, Wed, August 27 2008, 19:48:23 GMT-10
    - Re: Mini-Mod ruling -- Frank Samyia, Wed, August 27 2008, 22:16:54 GMT-10
      - Re: Mini-Mod ruling -- Daniel, Wed, August 27 2008, 23:38:30 GMT-10
        
        Re: Mini-Mod ruling -- Greg Pfeiffer, Thu, August 28 2008, 19:36:24 GMT-10
        
        Re: Mini-Mod ruling -- Greg Pfeiffer, Thu, August 28 2008, 19:38:10 GMT-10
      - Re: Mini-Mod ruling -- Greg Pfeiffer, Thu, August 28 2008, 19:35:17 GMT-10
- Re: Mini-Mod ruling -- Barry Ruttle, Thu, August 28 2008, 12:11:46 GMT-10
  - Re: Mini-Mod ruling -- Greg Pfeiffer, Thu, August 28 2008, 19:41:53 GMT-10
    - Re: Mini-Mod ruling -- Barry Ruttle, Mon, September 01 2008, 0:12:52 GMT-10
Southern Sydney Sharks vs Belrose -- Nathan, Sat, August 16 2008, 22:12:49 GMT-10 [2]
Hi i was at the game today between southern sydney and belrose at sutherland oval and noticed that one of the touch judges was not wearing the WHITE AAMI shirt he seemed to be wearing a training shirt. Does anybody no why

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- Re: Southern Sydney Sharks vs Belrose -- Joey, Sun, August 31 2008, 9:08:27 GMT-10
Facebook Group -- Matt Hall, Mon, August 04 2008, 15:02:12 GMT-10 [4]
Steve Brown

Can we start a facebook group?

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- Re: Facebook Group -- David, Mon, August 25 2008, 19:46:53 GMT-10
- Re: Facebook Group -- Anthony, Mon, August 25 2008, 20:41:46 GMT-10
Sean Hampstead/Jason Robinson -- Daniel, Tue, August 12 2008, 22:50:20 GMT-10 [3]
I take it sean is still injured, hence why he isnt reffing this weekend?

where is jason robinson this week?

when will sean be back?

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- Re: Sean Hampstead/Jason Robinson -- Troy, Fri, August 15 2008, 20:49:26 GMT-10
- Re: Sean Hampstead/Jason Robinson -- johnny, Fri, August 22 2008, 23:34:48 GMT-10
Tony Archer -- Troy Boltol, Sat, August 16 2008, 22:11:27 GMT-10 [3]
I was observing the game tonight in new zealand and the sharks and thought that the performance of referee archer was ordinary.
He gave the sharks so many opportunities and more than half the 50/50 calls went the sharks way. Also on one occasion a kick was put through and AS he kicked it sharks 5/8th brett seymour made contact with the kicker it was not late it was as he kicked it and archer gave a penalty.
i no condition were bad but i also thought it was an ordinary performance from one of the best refs in the nrl.

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- Re: Tony Archer -- Ben, Tue, August 19 2008, 21:03:12 GMT-10
  - Re: Tony Archer -- tony, Thu, August 21 2008, 19:56:57 GMT-10
Warriors v's Broncos -- Troy, Sat, August 09 2008, 19:30:51 GMT-10 [4]
Why did they change referess for this match?

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- Re: Warriors v's Broncos -- Daniel, Sat, August 09 2008, 19:52:40 GMT-10
  - Re: Warriors v's Broncos -- Greg Pfeiffer, Sun, August 10 2008, 11:33:00 GMT-10
    - Re: Warriors v's Broncos -- Daniel, Sun, August 10 2008, 22:40:17 GMT-10
Handover or Scrum?? -- Greg Pfeiffer, Mon, August 04 2008, 21:54:23 GMT-10 [2]
The Laws state:
7. (a) A team in possession of the ball shall be allowed
five successive play-the-balls. A handover shall
occur AFTER the fifth play-the-ball in the following
circumstances.
i. The team is tackled a sixth time.
ii. The team in possession commits an accidental
breach for which a scrum would normally be set.
iii. A player is held up in the opponent’s in-goal.
iv. The ball is kicked directly into touch on the full.

Now, if the ball is kicked into touch, not on the full, then we set a scrum.

What about if:
- a player throws the ball into touch?
- a player runs or is knocked into touch (no tackle effected)

Do you similarly set a scrum, or do you rule a handover?

There is no glossary definition of "accidental breach"

My vote is for a scrum.

Thoughts??

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- Re: Handover or Scrum?? -- Frank Samyia, Tue, August 05 2008, 21:49:38 GMT-10
Coaches Corner -- Greg Pfeiffer, Thu, June 26 2008, 22:36:49 GMT-10 [2]
What has happened to the Coaching Memo's that use to be put out by Mick Stone?? Has nobody taken up the role of doing this?? I note that there have been no relevant memos for about 12 months.

Who should be doing this task now??

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- Re: Coaches Corner -- Steve Brown, Fri, June 27 2008, 15:37:36 GMT-10
  - Re: Coaches Corner -- Greg Pfeiffer, Sat, June 28 2008, 19:15:45 GMT-10
  - Re: Coaches Corner -- Greg Pfeiffer, Mon, August 04 2008, 21:59:07 GMT-10
The "wrestling" problem -- Greg Pfeiffer, Mon, August 04 2008, 21:49:51 GMT-10 [1]
The Laws of the Game state:
10. The play-the-ball shall operate as follows.
(a) The tackled player shall be immediately released
and shall not be touched until the ball is in play.

Now, if this part of the Law was enforced, then there would be no opportunity for wrestling to occur.How many times do you see both the ball acrrier and the tackler arise still in contact, with the ball carrier only being released when both have stood up?

So, time to stop fudging the Laws to pander to Coaches, and return to what refereeing is all about.

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All Schools Carnival -- Matt Hall, Mon, August 04 2008, 15:00:53 GMT-10 [1]
Who will be attending All Schools Carnival this year?

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Rod Lawrence -- Shane, Fri, August 01 2008, 11:33:51 GMT-10 [2]
Just noticed this weeks appointments, and Rod Lawrence is back in the NRL on the line. Where has he been all this year? has he been injured? I thought he retired!

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- Re: Rod Lawrence -- nathan, Sun, August 03 2008, 21:02:19 GMT-10
black arm bands -- jimmy, Sun, August 03 2008, 14:59:38 GMT-10 [2]
i noticed last night referees were wearing black arm bands does anybody no why

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- Re: black arm bands -- Steve, Sun, August 03 2008, 18:13:50 GMT-10
Recommended Air Pressure for a Rugby League Ball -- james, Thu, July 31 2008, 17:16:11 GMT-10 [1]
Does anyone know what the recommended air pressure for a Rugby League ball is?

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Michael Jones -- Daniel, Tue, July 29 2008, 17:48:21 GMT-10 [3]
Has Michael Jones retired?

I seen a video which was titled "Micheal Jones 100th and final NRL game". And he hasn't run since that game (Round 16 Wests Tigers V Warriors)

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- Re: Michael Jones -- Steve, Wed, July 30 2008, 11:29:50 GMT-10
  - Re: Michael Jones -- Daniel, Wed, July 30 2008, 17:33:15 GMT-10
Calling the fashion police -- james, Sat, July 12 2008, 22:12:04 GMT-10 [5]
Sat 12.7.08

Sth Sydney vs Parramatta

Officials wearing white jersey with BLACK shorts.

A*P*P*A*L*L*I*N*G

Not only did it look stupid but it also was crying out for the fashion police to fine them. Whoever said black shorts with the white top needs their head read.

Dont do it again. Please.

White jersey - white shorts.

Thank You.

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- Re: Calling the fashion police -- Matt Hall, Sun, July 13 2008, 21:37:16 GMT-10
- Re: Calling the fashion police -- John, Sun, July 13 2008, 22:15:32 GMT-10
- Re: Calling the fashion police -- Frank Samyia, Tue, July 15 2008, 7:49:20 GMT-10
  - Re: Calling the fashion police -- Andrew, Fri, July 25 2008, 22:06:25 GMT-10
tackling ? -- alex watling, Fri, July 04 2008, 0:27:20 GMT-10 [4]
Can you please tell me if it is illegal to tackle a player in mid air after catching the ball.

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- Re: tackling ? -- Barry Ruttle, Thu, July 10 2008, 0:22:25 GMT-10
  - Re: tackling ? -- Greg Pfeiffer, Sun, July 13 2008, 12:00:13 GMT-10
    - Re: tackling ? -- Ben, Fri, July 25 2008, 19:47:26 GMT-10
gavin badger -- shane, Tue, July 22 2008, 21:34:34 GMT-10 [3]
does gavin badger have a under 20 game or nsw cup this week

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- Gavin Badger -- Alex McCann (Kogarah), Thu, July 24 2008, 13:04:20 GMT-10
  - Re: Gavin Badger -- Luke, Thu, July 24 2008, 18:02:59 GMT-10
Russell Turner -- Daniel, Sun, July 20 2008, 23:08:03 GMT-10 [3]
Just wondering why was steve chiddy running the line in sundays souths v tigers game instead of russell turner. Also was that Adam Devchich running the line for the cowboys v broncos game instead of steve lyons? maybe my eyes were deceiving me!

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- Re: Russell Turner -- nathan, Mon, July 21 2008, 15:19:26 GMT-10
- Re: Russell Turner -- Steve, Mon, July 21 2008, 15:24:58 GMT-10
Most experienced S/O in NRL -- John, Sun, July 20 2008, 23:09:54 GMT-10 [2]
Anyone know who is the most experienced sideline official running in the NRL, in terms of number of games?

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- Re: Most experienced S/O in NRL -- Westy, Mon, July 21 2008, 0:09:59 GMT-10
gavin reynolds -- scott, Mon, July 07 2008, 7:58:43 GMT-10 [2]
just wondering is gavin pat reynolds son

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- Re: gavin reynolds -- Westy, Sun, July 20 2008, 11:27:28 GMT-10
World Cup Jerseys -- Steve, Fri, July 18 2008, 10:08:44 GMT-10 [2]
After seeing Steve Clark on the Footy Show last night, I would have a suggestion that they make the referees jerseys from the world cup available for purchase to the public, lets say 10,000 of them. From the sales, lets say 20% of the profit is donated to the national breast cancer foundation. Seeing as though it is the world cup, I think this could potentially be a viable option.

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- Re: World Cup Jerseys -- nathan, Fri, July 18 2008, 14:42:02 GMT-10
Comeback refs -- Daniel, Mon, July 14 2008, 0:14:48 GMT-10 [3]
Just wondering,in recent weeks we have seen steve lyons and matt checchin back in the centre for NRL games. Given the fact they had been pushed onto the line for the last few years, are they going to get more of a go in the middle? I rate both of them as referees. Also, now we have seen these two make comebacks to the middle, any chance of seeing rod lawrence back out in the centre?

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- Re: Comeback refs -- gerry, Mon, July 14 2008, 21:58:56 GMT-10
  - Re: Comeback refs -- nathan, Tue, July 15 2008, 19:04:52 GMT-10
LAWS OF THE GAMES -- WAYNE WILSON (WORRIED), Mon, June 23 2008, 0:43:40 GMT-10 [2]
did anyone see in the game friday night broncos ,tigers .
Ball bounced in goal and defending player straddling dead ball line catches ball before it touches ground outside playing field.
Tony Archer fail to recognise charge down by anasta in knights game sunday someone got a glossary or a laws book for him.
This is what our new referees are watching and hopefully not interpreting incorrectly as those we strive to be like.

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- Re: LAWS OF THE GAMES -- Paul fFairweather, Sat, July 12 2008, 1:02:28 GMT-10
Colour Coordination -- Anthony, Mon, June 30 2008, 11:40:40 GMT-10 [1]
I watched the Eels v Storm game yesterday afternoon, and noticed that the referee Ben Cummins and both touch judges were wearing orange shoelaces, which was also the colour of their shirts.

Do the referees decide to do this with each colour they wear every week?
i.e. white, green, yellow, etc.

I haven't looked for this in other games but it was just something different which I had not seen (or noticed) before.

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- Re: Colour Coordination -- Steve, Fri, July 04 2008, 1:12:33 GMT-10
  - Re: Colour Coordination -- Anthony Grady, Tue, July 08 2008, 18:22:55 GMT-10
- Re: Colour Coordination -- Luke, Wed, July 09 2008, 1:26:16 GMT-10
The Challenge System -- Frank Samyia, Tue, July 08 2008, 2:56:22 GMT-10 [1]
An idea for the future - the introduction of a Challenge System for on field decisions in the NRL. All teams are allowed a maximum of two challenges per game. The challenges can be for absolutely anything from a strip to the grounding of a ball for a try. The captain or the coach via the captain simply requests to the referee the decision to be reviewed by instant replay. The video referee is given exactly one minute to make his decision from the time the first replay is shown to him. If he cannot make up his mind, the decision goes back to the referee on the field.
After a team has had its two challenges, they must accept the decision of the on field officials for the rest of the game. All of this will have the effect of speeding up the game - there will only be a maximum of 4 stoppages per game, and it will put the responsibility of correct decision making back to the men on the field. After all, isn't that their function?

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"On-Repor"t System -- Ben, Thu, July 03 2008, 19:19:23 GMT-10 [1]
What is the go with referees not sending players off? That tackle by Nate Myles last night was a send off in anyones book. And it's not just that either, several instances this year have warranted send-off but only received "on-report" rulings.

Tony Archer sent a player off for hitting someone late & high earlier in the year, and Sean Hampstead for a high tackle. Yet they won't send someone off for attempting to break their neck (irrespective of intent or injury).

I'm in no way intending to single anyone out - Every referee does it, and they're just doing what they're told to do by Channel 9 and Fox Sports so they keep as many games as even as possible.

Every coach, player, official, and TV Executive needs to be given a copy of the laws of the game and be told thats how it's going to be refereed, none of these special laws just because players get paid trillions.

The on-report system needs to be abolished, it's a blight on the game in my opinion. If it is misconduct and warrants a suspension it warrants a send-off.

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Jason Robinson -- Brad, Wed, June 25 2008, 20:58:55 GMT-10 [1]
I notice Jason hasn't got a game for a second week in a row. Is he injured or been dropped?

I thought he had been going pretty well and was starting to get some good games.

Anyone shed any light?

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- Re: Jason Robinson -- PJ, Thu, June 26 2008, 15:57:41 GMT-10
  - Re: Jason Robinson -- Brad, Thu, June 26 2008, 21:34:46 GMT-10
    - Re: Jason Robinson -- Greg Pfeiffer, Sat, June 28 2008, 19:16:54 GMT-10
- Re: Jason Robinson -- Nathan, Sat, June 28 2008, 11:29:09 GMT-10
Referee's Heritage Uniform -- Frank Samyia, Sat, April 19 2008, 16:47:01 GMT-10 [1]
Congratulations to the NRL referees for getting into the spirit of Heritage weekend with their throwback uniforms.

I'd be interested to know how comfortable they were to run in - the long sleeves on some cold weekends wouldn't be such a bad idea.

The only thing that was missing was the glorious starched collars that messrs Pearce, Page et al made legendary in their day.

Well done!

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- Re: Referee's Heritage Uniform -- Jack, Sun, April 20 2008, 18:35:18 GMT-10
- Re: Referee's Heritage Uniform -- Greg Pfeiffer, Sun, April 20 2008, 18:40:26 GMT-10
  - Re: Referee's Heritage Uniform -- kezz, Sun, June 22 2008, 14:36:31 GMT-10
Gus Gould Kidnapping -- Kezz, Sun, June 22 2008, 14:30:37 GMT-10 [1]
Just watched The Sunday Roast...

All I can say, its about time somebody kidnapped that pest...hahaha...

I'm waiting for a representative of the refs squad to come forward with a mock ransom statement...

hahaha...

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DRUGS -- Steve, Tue, April 08 2008, 0:38:17 GMT-10 [0]
Just wondering if top level referees are subject to drug testing?

Thanks

Steve

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- Re: DRUGS -- Steve Betts, Wed, April 09 2008, 9:33:26 GMT-10
  - Re: DRUGS -- Paul, Wed, April 09 2008, 12:36:19 GMT-10
    - Re: DRUGS -- Mat, Wed, April 09 2008, 22:37:50 GMT-10
      - Re: DRUGS -- Paul, Thu, April 10 2008, 10:52:24 GMT-10
      - Re: DRUGS -- Rhyss, Thu, April 10 2008, 14:23:29 GMT-10
  - Re: DRUGS -- Anthony, Thu, June 19 2008, 0:27:41 GMT-10
sharks vs souths -- Nathan, Mon, April 14 2008, 23:27:32 GMT-10 [0]
hey guys,

i am just wondering what the go was tonight in the second half when all the souths players left the field to listen to their coahc i am a sharks fan and was wondering weather that constitutes a forfeit cause the obly player from souths on the field was the goal kicker.Just wondering not really a big problem but the coaches get half time to talk so i just thought it was very strange and would see what you guys thought

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- Re: sharks vs souths -- Jarred, Tue, April 15 2008, 18:48:51 GMT-10
  - Re: sharks vs souths -- Nathan, Wed, April 16 2008, 15:10:56 GMT-10
Rule Enqiry -- Lyndsay Packer, Sun, June 01 2008, 18:46:23 GMT-10 [1]
Seeking a ruling enquiry Re: ball out of the full - now the definition of the ball being out on the full is the ball leaving the field of play without bouncing first - however the field of play is deemed to be the whole field besides the in goal and the sidelines - now what happens if the ball is kicked and lands in the in goal bounces back and goes into touch?

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- Re: Rule Enqiry -- Barry Ruttle, Mon, June 02 2008, 23:49:55 GMT-10
NRL Cadet Referees -- Barry Ruttle, Mon, May 26 2008, 22:56:36 GMT-10 [1]
Thought I would bring you up to date on Paul Mellor and Henry Perenara. Both are refereeinf in the Cronulla District and numerious games through out the week They have refereed more games in a short time than most referees in a 2 year period. Yes they are lucky to have the opportunity to do this. Thats life. Both have shown that years of playing at the top grade is of great advantage. In particular awareness around tha playing field and understanding of players attitudes. Their fitness level is far above 95% of district referees and this is of great advantage to them. It does not neccessarily make a referee but it makes it easier to referee when urgency and being on the spot to make a decision is required. They will be doing their Leve 2 in September at my course and hoefully will be in the Jnr Reps next year. They are both up to it.

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Touch Judge dialogue -- Matt, Sun, May 25 2008, 19:23:31 GMT-10 [1]
I noticed in the Titans V Tigers double sin bin yesterday, as the sideline officials reported the incident they both were firm in repeating "in my opinion".

It seemed a bit prepared (for lack of a better word), any reason behind this rhetoric?

Matt.

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'mark' in-goal -- Jacob Grams, Mon, May 05 2008, 23:01:15 GMT-10 [1]
When is a player considered to have marked the ball in-goal? Do both feet need to be in the in-goal for it to be considered a mark? What should happen if one foot is in and one foot is out?

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- Re: 'mark' in-goal -- Greg Pfeiffer, Wed, May 14 2008, 11:26:58 GMT-10
- Re: 'mark' in-goal -- Ian, Fri, May 16 2008, 16:34:53 GMT-10
  - Re: 'mark' in-goal -- gr, Wed, May 21 2008, 23:51:24 GMT-10
WHATS GOING ON ???????????????????????? -- James, Wed, May 14 2008, 10:48:53 GMT-10 [1]
What's happened to this forum ... there's been no discussion for 10 days , has it moved elsewhere ???

I'm lost !

please assist.

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Mo Fajajo -- Daniel, Tue, May 13 2008, 16:45:38 GMT-10 [1]
WHAT WAS HE THINKING LOL!!

how did he misjudge that kick in the South VS Cowboys Game, it clearly missed..

I take it that was the reason why he was in NSW Cup last week?

will he be returning this week?

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SOO officials -- Daniel, Tue, May 13 2008, 16:43:12 GMT-10 [1]
Just seen the appointments for State of Origin I

Referee: Tony Archer
Sideline Officials: Steve Chiddy/Paul Holland
Video Referees: Bill Harrigan/Tim Mander

Paul is a bit of a bolter in my opinion, he seems to be a quite achiever though, and pretty consistent. I thought Russell Turner, Steve Carrall or Matt Checchin would of been picked before him. Thoughts?

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Rod Lawrence -- nick, Mon, April 28 2008, 10:16:01 GMT-10 [1]
just wondering has rod retired or is he injured.

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- Re: Rod Lawrence -- Steve, Mon, May 05 2008, 10:01:24 GMT-10
city v country officals -- john, Tue, April 29 2008, 16:19:46 GMT-10 [1]
who are officals for fridays city v country game.

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- Re: city v country officals -- Daniel, Fri, May 02 2008, 0:42:25 GMT-10
Video Refs -- Daniel, Mon, April 28 2008, 0:25:46 GMT-10 [1]
Hey,

just wanted to know what are the requirements to be -

a) A video Referee

b) A match day assessor

and

c) An Evaluator

Maybe someone like Mick Stone or Steve Clark could help out

cheers.

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- Re: Video Refs -- James, Wed, April 30 2008, 9:21:27 GMT-10
City VS Country -- David, Tue, April 29 2008, 17:59:03 GMT-10 [1]
Just wondering if anyone knows who has been appointed to the city country match. Also does anyone know the process of appointment for this match

Cheers David

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