- gavin badger -- shane, Tue, July 22 2008, 21:34:34 GMT-10 [3]
does gavin badger have a under 20 game or nsw cup this week
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- Russell Turner -- Daniel, Sun, July 20 2008, 23:08:03 GMT-10 [3]
Just wondering why was steve chiddy running the line in sundays souths v tigers game instead of russell turner. Also was that Adam Devchich running the line for the cowboys v broncos game instead of steve lyons? maybe my eyes were deceiving me!
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- Most experienced S/O in NRL -- John, Sun, July 20 2008, 23:09:54 GMT-10 [2]
Anyone know who is the most experienced sideline official running in the NRL, in terms of number of games?
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- gavin reynolds -- scott, Mon, July 07 2008, 7:58:43 GMT-10 [2]
just wondering is gavin pat reynolds son
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- World Cup Jerseys -- Steve, Fri, July 18 2008, 10:08:44 GMT-10 [2]
After seeing Steve Clark on the Footy Show last night, I would have a suggestion that they make the referees jerseys from the world cup available for purchase to the public, lets say 10,000 of them. From the sales, lets say 20% of the profit is donated to the national breast cancer foundation. Seeing as though it is the world cup, I think this could potentially be a viable option.
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- Comeback refs -- Daniel, Mon, July 14 2008, 0:14:48 GMT-10 [3]
Just wondering,in recent weeks we have seen steve lyons and matt checchin back in the centre for NRL games. Given the fact they had been pushed onto the line for the last few years, are they going to get more of a go in the middle? I rate both of them as referees. Also, now we have seen these two make comebacks to the middle, any chance of seeing rod lawrence back out in the centre?
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- Calling the fashion police -- james, Sat, July 12 2008, 22:12:04 GMT-10 [4]
Sat 12.7.08
Sth Sydney vs Parramatta
Officials wearing white jersey with BLACK shorts.
A*P*P*A*L*L*I*N*G
Not only did it look stupid but it also was crying out for the fashion police to fine them. Whoever said black shorts with the white top needs their head read.
Dont do it again. Please.
White jersey - white shorts.
Thank You.
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- tackling ? -- alex watling, Fri, July 04 2008, 0:27:20 GMT-10 [3]
Can you please tell me if it is illegal to tackle a player in mid air after catching the ball.
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LAWS OF THE GAMES -- WAYNE WILSON (WORRIED), Mon, June 23 2008, 0:43:40 GMT-10 [2]
did anyone see in the game friday night broncos ,tigers .
Ball bounced in goal and defending player straddling dead ball line catches ball before it touches ground outside playing field.
Tony Archer fail to recognise charge down by anasta in knights game sunday someone got a glossary or a laws book for him.
This is what our new referees are watching and hopefully not interpreting incorrectly as those we strive to be like.
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- Colour Coordination -- Anthony, Mon, June 30 2008, 11:40:40 GMT-10 [1]
I watched the Eels v Storm game yesterday afternoon, and noticed that the referee Ben Cummins and both touch judges were wearing orange shoelaces, which was also the colour of their shirts.
Do the referees decide to do this with each colour they wear every week?
i.e. white, green, yellow, etc.
I haven't looked for this in other games but it was just something different which I had not seen (or noticed) before.
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- Blue boots? -- Greg Pfeiffer, Sat, May 17 2008, 20:25:24 GMT-10 [-1]
Were my eyes working?? Did I see Jarad Maxwell refereeing in Blue boots?? There are now 3 colours of boots - white, black and blue - being used.
Is it really that hard to get standard black boots for all NRL members?? Lets get the standard set once again!!
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- Re: Blue boots? -- Steve, Thu, May 22 2008, 18:14:57 GMT-10
- Re: Blue boots? -- One of Many, Fri, May 23 2008, 0:27:48 GMT-10
- Re: Blue boots? -- Frank Samyia, Sun, May 25 2008, 9:05:19 GMT-10
- Re: Blue boots? -- Greg Pfeiffer, Fri, June 06 2008, 21:51:21 GMT-10
- Re: Blue boots? -- Anthony Grady, Tue, July 08 2008, 18:31:08 GMT-10
- The Challenge System -- Frank Samyia, Tue, July 08 2008, 2:56:22 GMT-10 [1]
An idea for the future - the introduction of a Challenge System for on field decisions in the NRL. All teams are allowed a maximum of two challenges per game. The challenges can be for absolutely anything from a strip to the grounding of a ball for a try. The captain or the coach via the captain simply requests to the referee the decision to be reviewed by instant replay. The video referee is given exactly one minute to make his decision from the time the first replay is shown to him. If he cannot make up his mind, the decision goes back to the referee on the field.
After a team has had its two challenges, they must accept the decision of the on field officials for the rest of the game. All of this will have the effect of speeding up the game - there will only be a maximum of 4 stoppages per game, and it will put the responsibility of correct decision making back to the men on the field. After all, isn't that their function?
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- "On-Repor"t System -- Ben, Thu, July 03 2008, 19:19:23 GMT-10 [1]
What is the go with referees not sending players off? That tackle by Nate Myles last night was a send off in anyones book. And it's not just that either, several instances this year have warranted send-off but only received "on-report" rulings.
Tony Archer sent a player off for hitting someone late & high earlier in the year, and Sean Hampstead for a high tackle. Yet they won't send someone off for attempting to break their neck (irrespective of intent or injury).
I'm in no way intending to single anyone out - Every referee does it, and they're just doing what they're told to do by Channel 9 and Fox Sports so they keep as many games as even as possible.
Every coach, player, official, and TV Executive needs to be given a copy of the laws of the game and be told thats how it's going to be refereed, none of these special laws just because players get paid trillions.
The on-report system needs to be abolished, it's a blight on the game in my opinion. If it is misconduct and warrants a suspension it warrants a send-off.
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- Jason Robinson -- Brad, Wed, June 25 2008, 20:58:55 GMT-10 [1]
I notice Jason hasn't got a game for a second week in a row. Is he injured or been dropped?
I thought he had been going pretty well and was starting to get some good games.
Anyone shed any light?
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- Coaches Corner -- Greg Pfeiffer, Thu, June 26 2008, 22:36:49 GMT-10 [1]
What has happened to the Coaching Memo's that use to be put out by Mick Stone?? Has nobody taken up the role of doing this?? I note that there have been no relevant memos for about 12 months.
Who should be doing this task now??
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- Referee's Heritage Uniform -- Frank Samyia, Sat, April 19 2008, 16:47:01 GMT-10 [1]
Congratulations to the NRL referees for getting into the spirit of Heritage weekend with their throwback uniforms.
I'd be interested to know how comfortable they were to run in - the long sleeves on some cold weekends wouldn't be such a bad idea.
The only thing that was missing was the glorious starched collars that messrs Pearce, Page et al made legendary in their day.
Well done!
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- Gus Gould Kidnapping -- Kezz, Sun, June 22 2008, 14:30:37 GMT-10 [1]
Just watched The Sunday Roast...
All I can say, its about time somebody kidnapped that pest...hahaha...
I'm waiting for a representative of the refs squad to come forward with a mock ransom statement...
hahaha...
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- DRUGS -- Steve, Tue, April 08 2008, 0:38:17 GMT-10 [0]
Just wondering if top level referees are subject to drug testing?
Thanks
Steve
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- Re: DRUGS -- Steve Betts, Wed, April 09 2008, 9:33:26 GMT-10
- Re: DRUGS -- Paul, Wed, April 09 2008, 12:36:19 GMT-10
- Re: DRUGS -- Mat, Wed, April 09 2008, 22:37:50 GMT-10
Re: DRUGS -- Paul, Thu, April 10 2008, 10:52:24 GMT-10
- Re: DRUGS -- Rhyss, Thu, April 10 2008, 14:23:29 GMT-10
- Re: DRUGS -- Anthony, Thu, June 19 2008, 0:27:41 GMT-10
- sharks vs souths -- Nathan, Mon, April 14 2008, 23:27:32 GMT-10 [0]
hey guys,
i am just wondering what the go was tonight in the second half when all the souths players left the field to listen to their coahc i am a sharks fan and was wondering weather that constitutes a forfeit cause the obly player from souths on the field was the goal kicker.Just wondering not really a big problem but the coaches get half time to talk so i just thought it was very strange and would see what you guys thought
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Touch Judge Flags -- Sam, Fri, June 13 2008, 18:54:11 GMT-10 [1]
hi,
im a local referee and i have been searching over the internet 4 hours to find a website that sells touch line flags. There is one website but the flags look dodgy. I was wondering if you as referees or any one would know where i might be able to buy a set of flags from.
Sam
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- Rule Enqiry -- Lyndsay Packer, Sun, June 01 2008, 18:46:23 GMT-10 [1]
Seeking a ruling enquiry Re: ball out of the full - now the definition of the ball being out on the full is the ball leaving the field of play without bouncing first - however the field of play is deemed to be the whole field besides the in goal and the sidelines - now what happens if the ball is kicked and lands in the in goal bounces back and goes into touch?
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- NRL Cadet Referees -- Barry Ruttle, Mon, May 26 2008, 22:56:36 GMT-10 [1]
Thought I would bring you up to date on Paul Mellor and Henry Perenara. Both are refereeinf in the Cronulla District and numerious games through out the week They have refereed more games in a short time than most referees in a 2 year period. Yes they are lucky to have the opportunity to do this. Thats life. Both have shown that years of playing at the top grade is of great advantage. In particular awareness around tha playing field and understanding of players attitudes. Their fitness level is far above 95% of district referees and this is of great advantage to them. It does not neccessarily make a referee but it makes it easier to referee when urgency and being on the spot to make a decision is required. They will be doing their Leve 2 in September at my course and hoefully will be in the Jnr Reps next year. They are both up to it.
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- Touch Judge dialogue -- Matt, Sun, May 25 2008, 19:23:31 GMT-10 [1]
I noticed in the Titans V Tigers double sin bin yesterday, as the sideline officials reported the incident they both were firm in repeating "in my opinion".
It seemed a bit prepared (for lack of a better word), any reason behind this rhetoric?
Matt.
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'mark' in-goal -- Jacob Grams, Mon, May 05 2008, 23:01:15 GMT-10 [1]
When is a player considered to have marked the ball in-goal? Do both feet need to be in the in-goal for it to be considered a mark? What should happen if one foot is in and one foot is out?
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- WHATS GOING ON ???????????????????????? -- James, Wed, May 14 2008, 10:48:53 GMT-10 [1]
What's happened to this forum ... there's been no discussion for 10 days , has it moved elsewhere ???
I'm lost !
please assist.
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- Mo Fajajo -- Daniel, Tue, May 13 2008, 16:45:38 GMT-10 [1]
WHAT WAS HE THINKING LOL!!
how did he misjudge that kick in the South VS Cowboys Game, it clearly missed..
I take it that was the reason why he was in NSW Cup last week?
will he be returning this week?
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- SOO officials -- Daniel, Tue, May 13 2008, 16:43:12 GMT-10 [1]
Just seen the appointments for State of Origin I
Referee: Tony Archer
Sideline Officials: Steve Chiddy/Paul Holland
Video Referees: Bill Harrigan/Tim Mander
Paul is a bit of a bolter in my opinion, he seems to be a quite achiever though, and pretty consistent. I thought Russell Turner, Steve Carrall or Matt Checchin would of been picked before him. Thoughts?
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- Rod Lawrence -- nick, Mon, April 28 2008, 10:16:01 GMT-10 [1]
just wondering has rod retired or is he injured.
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- city v country officals -- john, Tue, April 29 2008, 16:19:46 GMT-10 [1]
who are officals for fridays city v country game.
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- Video Refs -- Daniel, Mon, April 28 2008, 0:25:46 GMT-10 [1]
Hey,
just wanted to know what are the requirements to be -
a) A video Referee
b) A match day assessor
and
c) An Evaluator
Maybe someone like Mick Stone or Steve Clark could help out
cheers.
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- City VS Country -- David, Tue, April 29 2008, 17:59:03 GMT-10 [1]
Just wondering if anyone knows who has been appointed to the city country match. Also does anyone know the process of appointment for this match
Cheers David
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Referee's Uniform -- David, Thu, April 17 2008, 16:55:30 GMT-10 [1]
Just wondering what will the referees be wearing this weekend, as it is heritage weekend. When I got the NRL appointments it said "Hearitage" under the colour. Is this the TNT style shirt or something else?
Cheers
David
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- Re: Referee's Uniform -- Stephen, Fri, April 18 2008, 22:02:10 GMT-10
- Re: Referee's Uniform -- Nathan, Fri, April 18 2008, 22:31:21 GMT-10
Re: Referee's Uniform -- Paul, Sat, April 19 2008, 14:54:45 GMT-10
- Re: Referee's Uniform -- Greg Pfeiffer, Sun, April 20 2008, 18:39:20 GMT-10
- Coaching from the sidelines -- Kezza, Mon, April 14 2008, 22:45:11 GMT-10 [1]
I would like to find out the ruling of coaches coaching from the sideline as was performed during the Souths v Raiders match tonight. I am guessing we may hear more about it in the media over the next couple of days. I was sure that 'coaching from the sidelines' was not permitted. Can anyone answer this query for me?
Thanks heaps.
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- NRL "Ref Watch" -- Ben, Mon, April 14 2008, 23:35:07 GMT-10 [1]
Hey all,
Noticed on the NRL Website in the match reviews that there is a section called "Ref Watch".
A few of these havn't exactly been nice (although they are trying to be "politically correct" with their wording). And other comments were just plain smart-alecish. I noticed that the author on some was Big League, while on others they are NRL.
Are people conducting these "reviews" of referees qualified to do so? I mean we cop enough pastings off the media but especially when it is the NRL making the articles I am quite worried.
I'll admit, a few reviews have been good, but now it just gives people another avenue to attack us from and when the NRL is writing the articles, shows how much support we have in the game.
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- Jarred Maxwell -- Troy, Wed, April 09 2008, 18:56:16 GMT-10 [1]
Jarred Maxwell seems to be getting the big appointments lately another friday nighter!!! good for him hope he continues to go well...what about Sean Hampstead the most experience guy in the ranks...no where to be seen..whats doing their???? or has he nothing to prove...probably the latter!!!!!
Anybody!!!!
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- gavin badger -- nick, Wed, April 09 2008, 19:56:36 GMT-10 [1]
just wondering why did gavin get dropped last week? and also what game does he have this weekend.
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PROPOSED TRIAL OF NEW FORUM -- Steve Brown (ARLRA), Wed, March 26 2008, 16:08:06 GMT-10 [1]
An offer has been made to the ARLRA regarding the provision of a new look Forum which would be more responsive than the current one which has to be heavily moderated by one person. The new one can allow real time posting and relies on everyone who does post to do the right thing regarding being constructive in their posts. The catch is you would have to be registered to post and to do that you would have to identify yourself along with your association or affiliation with the refereeing fraternity. Posting would be password protected so you would not be able to use another's ID to gain entry. Guests might still be able to see what is posted but unless they are registered they would not be able to post. Any contravention of the rules (that you would have to agree to in order to register) would result in your posts being deleted and you being banned from the site.
Everyones' thoughts on this proposal would be appreciated.
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Re: PROPOSED TRIAL OF NEW FORUM -- Paul, Wed, March 26 2008, 16:58:38 GMT-10
- Re: PROPOSED TRIAL OF NEW FORUM -- Vic, Wed, March 26 2008, 17:58:46 GMT-10
- Re: PROPOSED TRIAL OF NEW FORUM -- Greg Pfeiffer, Wed, March 26 2008, 21:18:55 GMT-10
- Re: PROPOSED TRIAL OF NEW FORUM -- Alex Mangovsky, Sun, March 30 2008, 18:18:30 GMT-10
- Re: PROPOSED TRIAL OF NEW FORUM -- Barry Ruttle, Sun, April 06 2008, 19:11:13 GMT-10
Re: PROPOSED TRIAL OF NEW FORUM -- David, Mon, April 07 2008, 18:20:53 GMT-10
- Matt Checchin refereeing NRL? -- Daniel, Fri, March 28 2008, 14:53:25 GMT-10 [0]
I have noticed with the appointments of the last 2 weeks in Toyota Cup that Matt Checchin has been in the middle. Is there any chance that he will ref NRL ever again? I thought he was a good ref a few years ago when he was in The centre. he is a good "sideline official" aswell, but sometimes i think he is wasted running the line.
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- Gladiators -- Jack, Fri, April 04 2008, 19:44:12 GMT-10 [0]
Was it just me or was anybody else a bit disappointed at the whistle of Bill Harrigan last Sunday night? lol - he sounded like an AFL umpire!
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- Chicken Wing tackle -- Anthony, Thu, April 03 2008, 16:18:08 GMT-10 [1]
I saw on Fox last night that the Storm had brought in a new tackle, the chicken wing. It's where a tackler comes in to join his fellow tacklers by grabbing the ball carrier's non-ball carrying arm, pulling it away from him and then putting downward pressure on the shoulder. It looks as if the tackler's trying to rip the shoulder out of it's socket.
Surely the powers that be must put an immediate stop to this type of tackle. It's dangerous and can do permanent damage. One wrong move and the shoulder's gone.
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- Knock-ons in the NRL -- Greg Pfeiffer, Sat, March 15 2008, 22:42:09 GMT-10 [1]
One of the great frustrations already this season is the number of dropped balls that are ruled to be "knock-ons" when clearly the ball has not travelled in a forwards direction.
It seems that either the refs are not confident to let play go on when there is a dropped ball and/or they are taking a very soft option in calling up a game for a knock-on.
In the game I just watched, a terrible call of "knock-on" was made - the replays showed the ball went backwards from the player ruled to have knocked on, and that the ball was actually knocked-on by the team given the scrum feed - which nearly resulted in the a team scoring a try.
Teams are consistently being penalised for dropping the ball backwards, and it should be eliminated at this level.
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obstruction -- Geoff, Fri, March 21 2008, 23:12:20 GMT-10 [1]
my understanding of the obstruction rule is it is not obstruction if the defending player tackles the attacking player without the attacker putting a hand on the defender.
Is this correct
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- Re: obstruction -- WAYNE (INTERESTED), Sat, March 22 2008, 10:18:46 GMT-10
- Re: obstruction -- Ben, Sat, March 22 2008, 11:58:54 GMT-10
- Re: obstruction -- Alex Mangovsky, Sun, March 30 2008, 18:40:28 GMT-10
- Re: obstruction -- Daniel, Thu, April 03 2008, 13:58:41 GMT-10
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John Hopoate off to a good start -- Mary, Wed, April 02 2008, 8:20:11 GMT-10 [1]
I see in the Telegraph today that John Hopoate stated that he has nothing against the current referees, but reckons that most of the players would prefer a referee who has played the game. I say bring it on. Let all the ex-players referee. Put them under the microscope so that they too can be ridiculed by tv and radio broadcasters alike. Everyone thinks that these ex-players are going to be so much better. I don't think so. Congratulations to all the current refs, you are doing a great job.
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- Roosters Vs Storm -- Daniel, Sat, March 29 2008, 23:37:23 GMT-10 [0]
Just wondering if anyone seen the incident late in the 2nd half where the roosters kicked off and the ball was ruled out on the full by steve carrall. Matt Geyer knocked on THEN his leg hit the corner post which should have resulted in a scrum for the knock-on forst. but steve ruled out on the full. In no way am i blaming steve as it was a split second thing, and would be very hard to adjudicate, but my question is with the video ref now being utilised for strips in the PTB after seeing replays, why couldnt the video ref have a look at the replay and say we got it wrong fellas, its a scrum. With melbourne just scoring and the score 10-6 with 4mins to go, it was a MASSIVE call, and could of changed the game had melbourne scored.
in a day and age where the video ref is becoming more involved in the game, i think that would have been a good opportunity for him to step in.
thoughts??
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- Jarred Maxwell -- Daniel, Sun, March 23 2008, 11:37:32 GMT-10 [-2]
WHAT WAS ROBERT FINCH THINKING!!!!
why would you give Maxwell, who has only done a handful of NRL games, the Roosters/Broncos match. Friday night games are what i consider the "top" 2 games of the round in most cases. I think Robert Finch threw Maxwell into the wolves, and it was quite clear that he couldn't handle the pressure. my question is simple- Why would you give Jarred Maxwell a friday night match infront of 20,000 fans at the SFS and the TOP REFEREE(Mr Tony Archer) the Sharks v Storm match on a sunday afternoon in front of a crowd of somewhere near 10,000 people. What game is going to have more pressure????
Out of the 8 referees in the NRL each week, Mr Finch should be able to give anyone of them any game and expect the same result. but unlike Archer, who has done in excess of 150 NRL games, Maxwell hasn't got that kind of experience, and thats what it came down to in the end- EXPERIENCE.
It was quite obvious from the first 10mins that he wasn't going to be able to handle this match, and it went downhill from there.
Shame on Robert Finch. i think the appointments should be thought over!
Gavin Badger has been in the NRL longer then Maxwell, and i think Badge has a lot of potential, so why is it that he hasnt had ONE Friday Night Match, yet Maxwell gets one, and has a shocker.
feedback would be appreciated.
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- Re: Jarred Maxwell -- Greg Pfeiffer, Sun, March 23 2008, 20:31:37 GMT-10
- Re: Jarred Maxwell -- Ben, Sun, March 23 2008, 21:19:37 GMT-10
- Re: Jarred Maxwell -- Andrew, Mon, March 24 2008, 1:54:29 GMT-10
- Re: Jarred Maxwell -- Troy, Mon, March 24 2008, 11:14:07 GMT-10
- Re: Jarred Maxwell -- Peter, Tue, March 25 2008, 17:20:01 GMT-10
Re: Jarred Maxwell -- Steve Brown (ARLRA), Wed, March 26 2008, 9:05:45 GMT-10
- Re: Jarred Maxwell -- Frank Samyia, Wed, March 26 2008, 20:17:41 GMT-10
- Warriors vs Parramatta -- Phil, Fri, March 28 2008, 17:06:54 GMT-10 [1]
Hi all,
I was sitting back having a cold one (coke) as i watched Shayne Hayne referee and i thought he referee very well on sunday.I thought he made some veyr good rulings along weith his touch judges and picked up some good forward passes which in some games you would see ;let go what are your thoughts on his game.
opinions wanted
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- fast tracking former players -- dave, Wed, October 03 2007, 18:00:33 GMT-10 [-2]
nrl.com>>"The National Rugby League has today announced the signing of former Kiwi International Henry Perenara, Souths’ Paul Mellor and former Roosters flyer Luke Phillips to its squad of full-time referees."
if you fast track one former NRL player into an NRL fulltime referee position then you are taking an opportunity away from a real ref who has learnt his trade the correct way.
the NRL should be putting the money into the development of young referees. this sort of development funding counteracts as a retention tool for teenagers contemplating refereeing against other career options.
im happy for former players to take up the whistle but they need to start from the bottom up. these cadet guys will be fulltimers learning the basics of reffing. thats pretty wierd dont you think?
They will be getting paid big money to ref school games whilst the average district referee organises and referees these games for little to no pay!
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Re: fast tracking former players -- nac, Thu, October 04 2007, 10:08:39 GMT-10
- Re: fast tracking former players -- Rick Lang, Thu, October 04 2007, 17:30:30 GMT-10
- Re: fast tracking former players -- Luke (Your Kidding Vic), Thu, October 04 2007, 18:33:39 GMT-10
- Re: fast tracking former players -- Footyfield, Fri, October 12 2007, 15:13:47 GMT-10
- NRL Cadet Program -- Dilorous, Mon, February 25 2008, 8:15:19 GMT-10 [1]
Hi,
After being told by the NRL and other sources that the three NRL "cadets" will not be fast-tracked, i was stunned on Saturday night at Gosford to see MR Henry Perenara sideline officiating beside Steve Carrall. Messrs Carrall and Perenara swapped throughout the game as touch judges, standing and running besides each other.
It is utter rubbish that a man who has never refereed in his life can walk straight into tough judging in the NRL.
Many referees at District and Junior Reps level would relish the opportunity to touch judge an NRL trial.
It isnt right that men who have been refereeing for years have been told of late that at 30ish, they are too old for grading, when players, i.e. Mellor, are over 30, never refereed in their life, and here we go, is now a sideline official.
NRL PLEASE EXPLAIN!
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- Give them a Go - Cummins, Badger -- Steve, Tue, March 25 2008, 2:16:01 GMT-10 [1]
After the undue speculation leading into this 2008 season about the lack of experience, the NRL Referees should take note of round 1 and 2 as an advantageous indicator in terms of refereeing for the next 2 years.
Undoubtedly, there was the uncertainty as to the lack of innexperience witheld by the whistle blowers, HOWEVER, this has been all but displayed so far.
I would personally like to see the likes of Gavin Badger and Ben Cummins doing some tough games, as both have been refereeing well, and are undoubtedly the future of the refereeing Ranks.
Give them a go Finchy!!!
What do YOU think???
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Round 1 Wrap-up -- northerner, Sat, March 15 2008, 12:02:56 GMT-10 [1]
OK - lets start our own wrap-up of the games & refereeing performance.
Souths v Roosters - T Archer
I thought Tony had a great start to the season. I'm not a hge fan of Tony as I think he's a typical copper, but putting that aside I could not find really any major matters that stood out. The Wing tackle was not something that Archer could be expected to have picked up.
8/10
Now did any one see the Titans game?
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- Tony De Les Heras -- Nathan, Sun, March 23 2008, 14:47:50 GMT-10 [1]
Hey guys i thought Tony De Les Heras refreed very well and controlled the game very well and his rulings were excellant what are your opinions
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- The Brown / Wing tackle. -- Greg Pfeiffer, Mon, March 17 2008, 19:22:01 GMT-10 [1]
I believe that the Riley Brown hit on Craig Wing was NOT within the Laws of the Game. Much the same as the hit on Andrew Johns the other year. Of note, both hits caused significant injury to the players.
If the hit has been declared legal, I am concerned that there will be an increase in this tactic, from NRL level down to park level.
Why do I believe the hits to be unlawful?
In both cases, the hit was a shoulder charge.
We can all agree there is a difference between tackles and shoulder charges (even though neither is defined in the Laws). However, the Laws treat shoulder charges and tackles differently, and implies they are not the same thing.
The Laws allow players to TACKLE an opponent who is in possession.
The Laws allow two players running for a loose ball to charge each other with the shoulder, i.e. shoulder charge.
So I believe that the Laws only allow you to tackle an opponent in possession, not shoulder charge him/her. One can also argue that shoulder charge is not effecting a tackle, so is an unlawful hit.
Either way, it is an unsavoury tactic that needs to be eliminated form the game
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- Sharks v Storm Game -- Paul, Sun, March 23 2008, 18:47:17 GMT-10 [1]
Well.....what an interesting game!
Good call Archer with the 2 send-offs IMO.
The sharks player was dead-set stupid. Not much damage done but that doesn't matter.
The worse one was the cheap shot by the Storm player - the sharkies player was being held by 2 players and defenseless. Gutless coward act and great call by Archer.
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- Manly vs Cronulla -- Nevermind!, Sat, March 15 2008, 21:28:41 GMT-10 [0]
I'm sorry, but what do the referee's actually DO in the offseason?? That game was a disgrace! How did the video referee come up with a penalty against Glenn Stewart to disallow that try? He was not looking at the player... the Cronulla player was falling and it WASNT EVEN HIGH!!
So very frustrating and it's a bloody long season. Wake up you blokes! Some of these rule changes are a joke too. AFL is looking VERY good this season!!
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- Sponsored by classic? -- Matt Hall, Sat, March 15 2008, 14:53:04 GMT-10 [1]
Just wondering how is arlra sponsored by classic?
Steve Brown could you eleborate please sir?
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- Retirements in 08? -- Daniel, Sun, March 16 2008, 22:38:05 GMT-10 [1]
Hey,
just wondering apart from steve clark and paul simpkins hanging up the boots who else has retired form NRL, mainly Touch judges...
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- ROUND 1 - SEASON 2008 -- Stephen, Tue, March 11 2008, 13:43:22 GMT-10 [0]
With the exit of 2 of the most experienced refs in Clarke and Simpkins at the end of 2007 I suspect the 2008 season is going to be a bit tense with a large group of relatively inexperienced refs being thrown to the wolves this year.
So , Does anybody know the lucky 8 guys who get a gig this coming weekend yet ???
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- Play the bal Mini/Mod -- Barry Ruttle, Wed, March 12 2008, 15:36:59 GMT-10 [1]
Hi Peter
There is another couple of times players can move up.They are:the acting half back elects to run or mishandles the ball
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- I don't no -- Paul, Tue, March 04 2008, 13:55:04 GMT-10 [0]
Hi,I just ran across this site I don't Referee but do love my league and I love how the Referee's go out week in week out and do their best,I would like to no what Referee means if it has a meaning,like I no a Ref controls a game but what dose it mean????if anyone could tell me it would be grate
Thanks
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- Play the ball -- Peter, Sun, March 09 2008, 13:26:06 GMT-10 [1]
When can a defending team run forward from the 10m?
Is it when the dummy half receives the ball or when?
Does it vary in ages?
Peter
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- charity shield -- nick, Wed, February 27 2008, 19:15:25 GMT-10 [0]
who are the referee and sideline officals for the charity shield on saturday night
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- ON FIELD GEAR -- Daniel, Tue, February 26 2008, 13:26:28 GMT-10 [1]
Just wondering if the on field gear has changed this year? i went to the foundation cup and hampstead and co were wearing a dark green shirt that had black and white stripes up the arms and across the shoulders? if this is the case, has it changed because this year is the centenary of rugby league ???
thanks
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- Training Program -- Ben, Mon, January 21 2008, 1:43:31 GMT-10 [1]
Hey guys,
Does anyone know of where I could find a training program for referees? I'm looking for one that includes everything from what running/cardio exercises to do and how many/often, weights excersise, and specific skills training also.
I'm getting bored of the same running everyday and want to mix it up a bit with something specific to what I need.
I've found a weights program on the NSWRLRA website and an eating plan. But any other weights programs would be appreciated also.
Thanks.
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- The Quick Tap -- Frank Samyia, Sun, November 04 2007, 6:34:29 GMT-10 [1]
It is time to do away from the quick tap from a penalty kick. Essentially, the objective is to catch the opposition unawares any in many cases catch them offside and recieve another penalty 10m down the field.
Why should the defence be penalised a second time? It also always bad from the referees point of view because if you let the team take the quick tap, the defending team is usually back about 3 metres and if you stand on the mark and stop the attacking team, they bitch, scream and carry on because you are taking away a possible advantage.
The rule simply needs to be changed to something like, ' The kicking team shall not be allowed to take the penalty kick until all players of the non kicking team have retired 10m'.
Just a thought but I think it has some merit. It would certainly clean up this untidy aspect of the game.
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- NRL contracts -- DBZ (curious), Fri, November 09 2007, 8:45:42 GMT-10 [1]
Just wondering if the New NRL referee contracts are out yet and if anyone got one from QLD? thanks.
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- coaches course -- Ben, Wed, October 17 2007, 2:10:52 GMT-10 [1]
Can anyone fill me in on when the next Lvl 1 coaches courses will take place? and some contact details?
Thanks.
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- Hopelessly Unprofessional NRL -- Trent C, Mon, November 12 2007, 8:13:46 GMT-10 [1]
Two weeks ago I wrote the following email to the NRL via its website -
"Greetings,
I refer to this link on the NRL website -
http://www.nrl.com.au/Referees/tabid/290/Default.aspx
Today i watched the NZ v England test match on TV and heard the lead commentator introduce the referee Tony Archer by saying "I refer to the NRL website which states that Tony has officiated 104 matches".
Immediately I knew this comment was incorrect.
However when I checked your site and went to the link Ive supplied you above I find that your site is supplying APPALINGLY out of date information. All of the stats supplied on the NRL site regarding these referres are current as at the start of the 2006 season ... TWO SEASONS OUT OF DATE !!!
Could you please correct this error ASAP because an overseas TV coverage has just made the info on the NRL website look like its being run by amaters.
Your reply would be appreciated."
How disgusting that the NRL site is so far out of date that it hasnt updated the referees profiles for TWO YEARS !
Also disgusting is that my email didnt receive a reply.
I urge everyone to send the NRL a complaint email via their website to raise this issue.
Thanks
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- Tribute to Two Greats of the Refereeing Ranks -- Chris, Thu, October 04 2007, 20:50:03 GMT-10 [1]
The game of leage has this week lost two greats of the refereeing role. Paul Simpkins and Steve Clark, with over 600 first grade games between them, will no longer referee in the NRL.
I would just like to congratulate these fine Gentlman of their positive contribution to the game.
Both are superior role models for any junior referees, and I hope we can produce many more like Clarky and Simmo!
Good Luck in the future guys!
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- What would he have done???? -- Frank Samyia, Mon, September 03 2007, 6:50:42 GMT-10 [1]
So the question is - had that last penalty goal by Newcastle missed on Friday night because of the two Tigers players running through to charge the kick down ( how long have I been asleep or are we playing Union now ??? ), would Paul Simpkins have advanced the penalty kick 10m and give the Knights the opportunity for another shot at goal??
Hope so . . .
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- Challenge to Ref's call as per tennis' Hawk-Eye? -- Oliver Baasch, Sun, September 02 2007, 2:37:27 GMT-10 [-1]
Hi all,
I am interested in what you think of an idea I had for reducing the impact of incorrect ref's calls to the result of NRL games.
I propose a ‘Challenge to Refs Call’ is made available to each team at the time of the call, in the same manner as is now the case for Grand Slam Tennis Tournaments with the “Hawk-Eye” system. In tennis, each player is given a number of challenges per set that count down if the challenge is unsuccessful. If successful the player keeps the challenge. The decision is based upon a computer generated projection of the ball to determine if the ball was in our out, while in League the decision would be passed to the Video Ref.
How it could work - Each team is given two challenges per half. At the time of a ref’s call, the player involved indicates to his captain that the call was wrong.
The captain instructs the ref that they are challenging the call. The Video ref would then view the evidence and give the result to the Ref. If the video referee agrees with the original call, then the challenging team loose 1 challenge, but if he disagrees, they keep it to use again.
This system would allow the ref to keep on calling the game as per normal, and only if the players felt that he got a call wrong, and were sure enough to risk losing a challenge, would they challenge the call. I expect this would have the following positive effects to the game:
- As has happened in tennis, league players would no longer complain about ref’s calls as they now have an avenue for challenging if they truly believe they have been wronged
- Incorrect ref’s calls will have less chance of impacting the outcome of the game.
A negative impact of this system could be that it would slow the game down by adding more video referee pauses, however another idea may reduce the number of times the video referee is required. At the time of Team 1’s challenge to the ref’s call, Team 2 can be asked if they agree that the call was wrong. By telling the truth up front and offering a quick result, Team 2 may be entitled to an extra challenge, so long as they keep offering up the quick result in following challenges.
I am interested in what you think about this idea and it’s chances of being implemented in the NRL?
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- test match officals -- nick, Wed, October 10 2007, 18:38:47 GMT-10 [1]
just wondering who the officals are for sundays test match
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- Ben Cummins -- Daniel, Thu, October 11 2007, 18:00:57 GMT-10 [1]
I read today that Ben Cummins refereed the jnr kangaroos test match vs tonga i think it was,not quite certain.
anyway my question is, who appoints the officials to these matches??
cheers
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- Steve Clark Retires -- Daniel, Thu, October 04 2007, 18:47:23 GMT-10 [1]
Just read that Steve Clark has announced his retirement after 15 seasons and 314 First Grade Games. Congrats on a great career Steve, which should of had a GF appointment in there in my mind, one that you fulfilled albeit.
Another rumour in the mill is that Paul Simpkins is considering retiring and returning to the police force full-time. anyone heard differently??
if this happens and both these guys retire, who will step up to fill their shoes? which are big ones in my opinion!
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- Grand Final Fee Structure -- Frank Samyia, Wed, October 03 2007, 20:59:29 GMT-10 [1]
I've had a few people ask me this over the last few days - can someone tell me the fee structure for all the NRL Grand Final officials?
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- Vale Michael Ryan -- Stephen Blomfield, Mon, September 24 2007, 22:02:34 GMT-10 [1]
I was shocked to read on the NRL website that Michael Ryan passed away today aged 60.
Michael was a touch judge or in goal touch judge in each 1st grade Grand Final between 1986 and 1990
Michael was someone I looked up to when I was a young 16 year old junior referee in the old Western Suburbs district Junior league that covered the Ashfield to Lidcombe areas. He as well as good friend Michael Stone were both two guys who helped me thru the junior ranks and made a big impression on me in the 15 years or so that I refereed Junior League footy
I'm sure Michael will be sorely missed by everyone in the referee and rugby league community.
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- Facebook -- Matt Hall, Sun, September 23 2007, 20:57:42 GMT-10 [1]
Hi should we set up an ARLRA group on facebook.com?
then everyone can stay in touch
should we start one? NSWRLRA have one
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- Re: Facebook -- Anthony, Mon, October 01 2007, 15:22:29 GMT-10
- Strange Referees Appointment - Premier League -- Luke, Sun, September 30 2007, 17:39:11 GMT-10 [1]
How is it that Jarred Maxwell got the gig for the Premier League GF ?
Ok , If Archer gets the main gig and you have the #2 ref (presume Simpkins) on standby then SURELY the #3 ref gets the Premier League game (so that means either Clarke or Hayne) ?
Seems very strange Maxwell getting the game.
Is there a policy I'm not aware of - somebody please advise
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- Grapple tackles etc -- Greg Pfeiffer, Sun, September 30 2007, 14:06:19 GMT-10 [1]
I read some comments in the paper this weeke allegedly made by Robert Finch that referees were not able to police some of the contact made with the head in a tackle (crusher tackle or suchlike) because it happened ater the tackle was completed and the player was being "worked on the ground".
A few points on this. Firstly, I am strugling to find "working the player on the ground" in the Laws of the Game, and didn't realise this was a new privilege given to players. I disagree that this activity occurs after a tackle has been efected, so that Misconduct 15.1.b cannot be enforced.
If this line of thinking is followed, it introduces a new grey area beween the tackle and the play the ball, essentially creating three phases: tackle, working on the ground, play the ball. So what Laws apply while working a player on the ground? Obviously the Laws relating to the tackle are deemed no to apply, so do the play the ball Laws come into effect? If a player is being worked on the ground, what are the tacklers doing? Still trying to effect a tackle, or to slow down the play the ball?
In most cases, I believe a ackle has been effected, and the tacklers are being granted extra privileges to turn players over or pin their shoulders or to somehow delay the process of the play the ball. This has been allowed moreso recently with the concept of the "dominant" tackle, which was supposed to allow the tacklers a bit of extra time to peel off the ackled player. What has happened is that this leniencey has gradualy grown and grown, and now we have the situation where ball carriers are placed in a vulnerable positions, being held by one tacker and having their upper body or head twisted by another player. If Robert Finch's cooments are correct, then it appears he is saying that contact with the head or neck of an opponent whilst working on the ground is OK.
There has been one significant injury as a result of these tactics (which are heavily defended by some coaches in today's paper), but I hope that it doesn't take a serious injury to bring an end to allowing this potentially dangerous and unnecessary facet of our game.
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- Matt Checchin -- Shaun Jones, Tue, September 25 2007, 14:40:18 GMT-10 [1]
How did Checchin get a semi final line when he put his flag up in the parra broncos game when the goal missed by atleast a metre...
Does Robert Finch appoint Semis to the ones who are doing the job, or the ones who have done the job before..even if they make mistakes..such as Mr Checchin
Surely someone like David Abood or Allen Foster should of been looked at????
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- Passing of Mr Nick Euclid OAM - ARLRA Chairman -- Steve Brown (ARLRA), Thu, September 27 2007, 17:58:43 GMT-10 [1]
It is with deep regret that the Board of the ARLRA advises of the passing of its Chairman, Mr Nick Euclid OAM, at 2pm today Thursday 27 September 2007. Nick was also the Chairman of the Queensland Rugby League Referees Board and a former leading Queensland referee. He will be sadly missed by the whole of the rugby league refereeing community.
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- Archer Grand Final Referee -- nac, Tue, September 25 2007, 15:28:51 GMT-10 [1]
The NRL has announced that Tony Archer will referee this Sunday's grand final at Telstra Stadium between Melbourne Storm and Manly Sea Eagles.
Archer is the 22nd referee to officiate in the season decider and was appointed after controlling the preliminary final between the Storm and Parramatta Eels on Sunday.
It is the first major refereeing appointment for Archer and he is excited by the achievement.
"It's an incredible honour and it's something every referee strives to achieve," said Archer.
The police prosecutor said that he wouldn't be reading the newspapers this week and NRL referee boss Robert Finch said he wanted Archer to go into the match with no preconceived ideas.
The grapple, crusher and ripper tackles will be policed. "I won't hesitate to penalise anything illegal," said Archer.
Referees coach Robert Finch also announced today that Steve Chiddy and Russell Turner would be sideline officials with Bill Harrigan an Phil Cooley in the video referees box.
with AAP
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- Congratulations Tony Archer -- Daniel, Tue, September 25 2007, 14:43:04 GMT-10 [1]
I just read Tony has been given the GF. Well done and this appointment is thoroughly deserved. In my opinion he has been the form referee for most of the season, and hasn't put a foot wrong in the semis. I am sure he will prove that he is the man for the job on Sunday Night.
CONGRATULATIONS.
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