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Date Posted: 05:35:12 07/10/06 Mon
Author: Roberto Miranda
Subject: Validity of Self-Realization Fellowship path

According to Swami Satyeswarananda Giri Babaji in his book " Babaji"-Volume III-Masters of Original Kriya , page 1 :
1." Original Kriya Tradition is Guru-Param-Para, that is, the disciple receives Kriya initiation personally from his or her Gurudev, the Master. The initiate learns the Kriya discipline having a personal relationship with his or her Gurudev or the Master." And on page 4, Guru Sisya :( Master and Disciple )
" Strictly speaking, until the teacher and initiate meet, they have no relationship as master and disciple."
" The relationship between the Master and the disciple originates at a personal meeting and actual initiation by the Master".
" Treating a realized Yogi of the past as Master through presumption and supposition is an idealization of the whole subject".
" Since acceptance from the Master's side is absent, it cannot be a true Master and disciple relationship. It is merely the product of the person's imagination".
Ater reading those passages I've got very confused and afraid for I have recently applied for "Self-Realization Fellowship Lessons". It is written on books of Yogananda that after His passage, the teachings will be the Guru, explaining that the Guru's consciousness is Omnipresent.
So, in that case I don't kwow who is right, if Yogananda or if Swami Satyeswarananda Giri Babaji. Can you help me ? As far as I know "Self-Realization Fellowship" did not designate for Rio de Janeiro ( Brazil ) a Swami to give council or advice to followers or disciples as is the case of the Ramakrishna Vedanta Order who has in the person of Swami Nirmalatmananda his Director for Rio de Janeiro. Swami Nirmalatmananda lives in São Paulo ( Brazil ) , near Rio de Janeiro and travels all the year visiting the centers of the Ramakrishna Vedanta Order in Brazil. What do you think ?
Best wishes,
Roberto Miranda

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