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Date Posted: 04:37:10 10/28/04 Thu
Author: Jos� Eur�alo
Subject: Re: Texto de Rubin
In reply to: M�nica 's message, "Texto de Rubin" on 12:09:10 10/26/04 Tue

M�nica:

A dificuldade que voc� aponta � real e a resposta que RUBIN apresenta � quest�o formulada por um professor (Doyle - citado por RUBIN, p.33, �3 - Class Size) n�o me parece satisfat�ria, mas algo evasiva: "Some tools (see Appendices) may help, but it is more difficuld to use learning logs or diaries requiring considerable teacher input in large class".

Voc� mencionou uma turma com um m�nimo de 35 alunos. No texto de RUBIN, fala-se de turmas com 64-65 alunos. J� lecionei Desenho Geom�trico para turmas com at� 54 alunos e sei a ang�stia que um professor que realmente se ocupa e se preocupa com o que faz sente atuando em turmas t�o grandes (ressalvados os casos de pr�-vestibulares). Penso que, em turmas muito grandes, nossa tend�ncia natural (em fun��o das circunst�ncias e das condi��es de trabalho) � optar pela segunda alternativa da preciosa e assustadora pergunta formulada por Toffoli (� 2 da p.33 do texto de RUBIN): "When am I helping the student be independent and when am I 'abandoning' her?". O pior � que, �s vezes, atuando em turmas grandes, at� o(a) professor(a) se sente abandonado e incapaz de tentar promover a independ�ncia; n�o � verdade?

S�o muitas perguntas, vagas respostas, raros relatos...

Espero que alguns(algumas) colegas leiam (ou voltem a ler)sua observa��o e nos brindem com alguma dica.

Jos�.

Jos�.

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