VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, [2], 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 13:25:32 11/12/08 Wed
Author: Deep Diction
Subject: Re: redistribution of wealth
In reply to: EJetson 's message, "Re: redistribution of wealth" on 10:38:59 11/12/08 Wed


>>And incidentally, flat taxes simply won't work. That's
>>why no thriving economy in the world uses one. The
>>Czech Republic is about the closest you'll find. It's
>>just an issue of not being able to generate enough
>>revenue to pay for all of the services a civilized
>>society needs. The poor simply can't pay the same rate
>>as the wealthy without falling into bankruptcy. Sure,
>>you can exempt them, but then you're just creating a
>>welfare state. Additionally, you're just going to piss
>>off the working class and eventually they'll vote for
>>leaders who advocate reimplementation of a graduated
>>tax system. So it's basically doomed to fail.
>
>
>
>
>If there was better determination of what a civilized
>society "needs" rather than what portions of a
>civilized society "wants", then it would generate
>plenty of revenue to provide it.
>
>The poor can pay the same percentage as the wealthy
>with better decision making in their lives (i.e. don't
>have 11 children when you can't afford more than 1 or
>2). I know that you disagree with this 100%, but one
>of the problems with our society is that we're ALWAYS
>looking for someone else to blame for our own
>problems. We never take responsibility for ourselves
>anymore. It's always someone else's fault, and it's
>up to the government to bail us out, when that's not
>what government is supposed to be for.

How do you propose implementing a situation where we have better determination of what our society needs? Isn't the determination of that one of the key functions of representative government?

As far as your example of poor people having babies, do you really think they're doing it for welfare checks? The per-child allotment for welfare doesn't even begin to cover the costs of raising a child. Additionally, a flat-tax system is just going to create more welfare recipients, because the poor will be taxed beyond their means. Also, they're mainly just having the babies because they're uneducated and irresponsible. Funding education will go a long way toward solving that.

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Replies:

[ Contact Forum Admin ]

Forum timezone: GMT-8
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.