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Subject: Re: Poor Helper work/crosspost from longwood


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Date Posted: 06:25:46 12/26/08 Fri
In reply to: d 's message, "Poor Helper work/crosspost from longwood" on 06:24:17 12/26/08 Fri

...I for one do not want to critique another helpers work, however there were MAJOR helper issues in the video during the courage test, the rear transport and the escape bites.

The Helpers techniques are flawed.

If you look at time frames 1:17 during the courage test you'd see the Helper standing sideways with sleeve too close to the body. Position was incorrect for the catch and the left leg extended too forward with the sleeve too close to the body prevented any absorbtion and the pivot foot had all the Helpers weight on it (can't react quickly this way) which caused the dog to hit a wall.

During the escape bite...the sleeve was chicken winged too long after the catch. Time frame 2:10 show's this clearly. The dog should of been caught with arm absorbing the dog and then tucking tight the elbow to the hip and forward so the dog is to the side and front...not to the side and back, which caused the rear right leg to be trapped between the running feet of the Helper. Time frame 2:10 to 3:10 shows the weak arm waving and the elbow of the sleeve moving up and down instead of locked into position, which caused the animal to be dangling and rear right leg to be trapped between the legs of the helper.

At time frame 3:08 during the REAR Transport the technical mistake here is the Helper did not attack the dog properly after the catch. These are the technical flaws that can happen when the drive is not technically sound. The Helpers arm during the drive was too high, out front, and too far to the stick side, where the dog dangled and its' right rear leg again was allowed to be tangled into the HELPERs legs. A more stiff (elbow tucked to hip) with the helper driving low (so all of dogs legs are on the ground) straight into the dog (a proper skip drive) would of prevented this.

These guys were doing the RUNNING drive, which is another style of drive and is appropriate, however it needs to be done without a flimsy arm positioning, elbows pointing in the directions you want to go infront of the Helpers body, causing the dogs to be IN FRONT (in the pocket), would of prevented the technical drive errors. That is why whenever I train a Helper it is imperative to position the dog in the pocket and not to the side no matter what "style" of drive they are using.

I feel sorry for these guys and they knew things were going wrong, you could see it in their demenour after a flawed catch etc. These guys must of felt awful, but definitely there were mistakes in their styles that weren't corrected at an early enough stage in their careers. These are habititual mistakes that must be stopped early in a Helpers career, and would take another Helper to see.

What i find IMPRESSIVE is the dogs!!!

To see these dogs have dislocations and broken breast plates and legs and yet they did not leave or run away, blows away the theory that sport dogs can't handle any heat.

To see these dogs guard; during the pain of broken bones, etc...

How many people still believe a SchH dog wouldn't or couldn't; are just plain `ol idiots, and these dogs visually show's that they can and will stick to the bite and fight, no matter what you do to them.

Cheers,
Chello...

Email: Mr_Chello@hotmail.com

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Re: Poor Helper work/crosspost from longwoodDan Nicholson16:15:59 04/12/09 Sun


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