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Subject: Re: ED:A study in Education & Brenda's comments on same


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Brenda D.
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Date Posted: 10:07:17 01/05/17 Thu
In reply to: Jackie 's message, "ED:A study in Education & Jackie's comments on same" on 10:03:36 01/05/17 Thu

Subject: Re: A study in Education & Lynn's comments on same
To: "W.G.E.N."
From: Brenda Donnellan
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2017 12:35:21 -0500


Jackie,

Since we're looking at the history of public education, here is an excerpt from my webpage (actually about the con-con) that discusses education in 1886. My webpage is http://articlevcon.weebly.com . Excerpt follows:

Notice that even though the federal government has NO (zero!) constitutional authority to involve itself in education federal influence is not new. In fact, the growth of public education has been concurrent with the growth of the federal government. Let’s take a look at a book published in 1886 when the constitution was not quite 100 years old and respect for its guidelines had been obliterated during the Civil War. Zach Montgomery, a lawyer and elected office-holder, wrote Poison Drops in the Federal Senate The School Question From A Parental And Non-Sectarian Standpoint because he objected to mandatory public education. His facts showed that states which followed the “New England System” of requiring public education (anti-parental states in his opinion) produced more criminals, paupers and suicides than the parental states.

In addition, Montgomery accuses all the states (38 at that time) of indoctrinating students through a re-defining of certain words, teaching them the lie that the states are subordinate to a strong centralized federal government. The reason he supposes for such a twisting of historical facts being forcibly fed to the children is that control and corruption of education were necessary to facilitate a takeover of the federal government. I submit to you that the takeover has indeed occurred and the public education fraud continues today in order to support the facade that amazingly still keeps many people from realizing that we have lost in Montgomery's words “constitutional liberty and the inestimable right of democratic self-government” -- and the people no longer have any influence in the governing of the country.

Montgomery writes:
"But they well understand that before striking this blow the minds of the people must be prepared to receive it. And what surer or safer preparation could possibly be made than is now being made, by indoctrinating the minds of the rising generation with the idea that ours is already a consolidated government; that the States of the Union have no sovereignty which is not subordinate to the will and pleasure of the Federal head, and that our Constitution is the mere creature of custom, and may therefore be legally altered or abolished by custom?
Such are a few of the pernicious and poisonous doctrines which ten millions of American children are today drinking in with the very definitions of the words they are compelled to study. And yet the man who dares to utter a word of warning of the approaching danger is stigmatized as an enemy to education and unfit to be mentioned as a candidate for the humblest office."


Read more at these links.

Poison Drops in the Federal Senate The School Question From A Parental And Non-Sectarian Standpoint by Zach Montgomery, published in 1886. Download the book here https://archive.org/details/poisondropsinfed00montrich

Read a PDF of Chapter 6. Poison Drops Ch6

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