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Date Posted: 14:23:00 11/09/05 Wed
Author: Pete
Subject: Re: Hello?
In reply to: Matthew Villani 's message, "Re: Hello?" on 22:21:40 11/08/05 Tue

>>I'll just reply to both your posts here.
>>
>>Thank you. Seems like a nice, friendly place to
>>converse.
>
>I hope you enjoy your stay here.
>
>>
>>I'll have to disagree with you on the media being bent
>>on slandering the white man. I'm guessing you feel
>>that the media has a liberal slant. I would disagree
>>with both points. I think the todays media is only
>>bent on making money.
>
>While it is true that they want to make money, the
>Media Lords and politicians realize that by lying to
>the people with liberal lies, they can wield the most
>power as opposed to a democracy. Look at how much
>power the Soviet dictators and their cronies had vs
>American presidents and congressmen.

Hmm maybe. You don't have me convinced yet. You are right about fox being neo conservative. I just think of them as conservative. The old conservative and liberal thought is mostly gone. They sort of have mixed. Its really tough to define conservative as one party or the other. They keep switching. And they both have conservative and liberal (the older words from the late 1800s early 1900s) tenets.
>
>>If they can make it by cantering
>>to the liberal or the conservative then thats what
>>they will do. The people who control the media don't
>>care about slant one way or the other. If they could
>>make more money by being non-biased they would. Since
>>there are liberal and conservative sections of the
>>population the different media outlets will lean
>>closer to one of either extreme. Fox seems to me to
>>have a conservative slant and CNN a liveral. Just my
>>opinion.
>
>Like I said, they want to both make money and hold
>power over people. The unscrupulus method (liberal
>lies to weaken the nation's people) is why I am so
>opposed to the media. I wouldn't call Fox
>conservative, it's neo-conservative, which is a branch
>of liberalism presented as an alternative, which
>isn't, really.

Yeah I mentioned that up top
>
>>
>>Also I believe the majority of blacks and other
>>minorities don't have it out for white people. They
>>just want to get on with living. Just like most
>>whites.
>
>Although I don't think the vast majority hate White
>people, they do not like living around Whites. Very
>often around their own race they'll express
>displeasure about living around Whites.

Maybe the type of people you are refering to are the inner city blacks and their culture. They seem to be suspicious of whites. I have a hard time blaming them. I also know many conservative blacks who are good decent people. I enjoy their company. Infact I have a friend from Ethiopia who is very smart and a very nice person. I don't know if he would get along with people of the "ghetto" culture.

>
>>There are some blacks and some whites that
>>still harbor anger towards the other race. I can't
>>really think of any solid examples of blacks. Maybe
>>Jesse Jackson, but he usually seems to keep his
>>speeches low key. I think most people just want to
>>make money and spend money.
>
>I think just about all rappers hate Whites.
>Personally, I don't hate Blacks, and I know some good
>ones personally, but I've observed that a good many of
>them strongly dislike living around Whites.

True. I think most blacks are good people just like white. They have their bad apples and such just like whites.

>
>>And also I really don't
>>care about protecting white culture.
>
>Why not? I think all races and cultures should be
>preserved.

It sort of seems pointless in the long run. Todays white culture is different from yesterdays. Its always been changing. I think its best to hold on to the good parts and let the bad parts go.
Im white or I guess you could say part white. My mom is a WASP southerner. Her grandfather had a tobacco farm and slaves. My grandmother cooks many of the typical southern foods. I'm proud of being southern. By dad on the other hand is the grandson of immigrants. My great grandfather was from Italy. I had other ones from France and Germany. I'm proud of my heritage from all sides.
>
>>It's mostly Greek
>>and Latin which in my opinion is not white, caucasian
>>yes, but not white. Medditeranean. Also Christianinty
>>isn't even a white religion. Its basically Judaism
>>with Latin influences. There really aren't any solid
>>examples of true white religions anymore. Norse gods
>>and Druids? in England. Those were all overrun by a
>>Middle Eastern religion. I guess what I'm saying is
>>that much of European culture is/was Latin. I would
>>concider the Latin people not to be white. When I
>>think of whites I think of Nordic or Germanic
>peoples.
>
>Is there any reason you don't think of southern
>Europeans and middle-easterners as White? There are
>some kinds of middle-easterners that I don't consider
>to be truly White, but I don't see how Medeterraneans
>could be construed as non-White, since there really is
>no racial mixture element.

I don't consider any middle easterners to be white. They are too dark/tan. They are caucasian though. Most Medeterraneans are darker than norther Europeans. There are some Medeterraneans that I would concider white. It's just that many of them are darker and have slightly different facial features. I guess I think that White is more of an ethnicity than a race. Caucasian is the race. That is a little easier to picture because it is a little more specific. I myself am fully caucasian but not all white. I am mostly white. I have seen pictures of my grandfather and great grandfather and both were very dark and had extremely curly hair. They were Italian. Maybe they had Moorish blood. I guess you could view them as inbetween white and the darker caucasians. Someone I met actually mistook me for Iranian one time. I get extremely tan in the summer.
>
>>Sorry for the tangents. I've been doing a lot of
>>thinking about race and ethnicity because I am doing a
>>research paper on racial/ethnic minorities and whether
>>the system in place is appropriate for who is defined
>>as a minority and how these people and others should
>>be treated.
>
>I'll try to help you with whatever aspects you need
>help with. I'll ask some questions maybe that might
>get you thinking. Usually they define a "minority" as
>any ethnic group that can't get on its own two feet,
>but sometimes they throw in other groups, but with
>sinister intentions.

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Re: Hello? -- Matthew Villani, 20:53:38 11/10/05 Thu